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Posted: 13 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: --Hope--



I think Vidya is not alllowing Uttara to take an independent decision

I agree that it is nice that she is trying to protect the unborn child as it has no voice right now

I don't find her counsellign Uttara irritating I find her beign judge and jury irritating.

Everytime Vidya has defended someone she has always defended someone who has been in the wrong. It does not matter who she is defending them to. the point is the person being defended is genuinely wrong

She defended Gaurav. yes, he was gay, yes, he was int he closet, yes he was forced in to marriage but yes he also committed a wrong by going into it with full knowledge of his wrong doing and with no rel sign of repentance or guilt. through it all he was only interested in preserving his own skin. it does not matter why he got into a sham marriage what matters is that he participated as a consulting adult with full knowledge of the facts. no one had to pull any wool over his eyes. he did not want to be shot by his dad. simple as that. the way she defended him you would have thought that he had fought for world peace or something.
Gaurav really only cared about himself. Lets face it, what did he do for this family. Nothing. Yes he supported Devyani during the divorce case, but thats all he did. When Vidya left him after all that happened with Chinu, he was trying to smooth things over with Karan but put the burden of Vidya on Aditya. And Aditya even looked after his bhabhi. Even when Vidya found out he was gay and left him, he didnt even bother going to talk to her atleast, again it was Aditya who took him. And even later no step was taken for a divorce, he asked Vidya what she wanted to do but never put things into action. If it hadnt been for Aditya he wouldnt have even told Vidyas parents and Brahma about him being gay. Yet Gaurav comes out the hero and Aditya being called all the names under the sun. Yes he did do wrong but when he does right he is not appreciated. when all he did was believe in his dad who fooled him all the way.

Now with Uttara she is doing the same thing. Yes, Uttara was unbalanced, Yes, she was manipulated by BJ but taali ek haat se nahi bajti. the second hand plays an equally forceful part.

Uttara has always wanted to feel like a desirable woman. her behaviour, her dress her relationships and choices reflect this. I am not citicizing her just stating a fact. In fact I loved her character in the beginning because she seemed so optimistic full of life and playful inspite of her misfortunes. It is this desire to be loved as a woman as opposed to be supported as a female family member that let her accept brahma's manipulations. Just becasue the devil speaks in your ear you don;t have to do an evil deed. She bought BJ's tale hook line and sinker because she wanted to with all her heart not because she was helpless. actually once she had crossed the line it was clear that she got bolder, more defiant, she was tryign to manipulate him as as opposed to vice versa and she felt like the conductor as opposed to the fiddle. there were no blinders on. she tried to latch on even when he told her clearly he had tricked her, used her and did not want the divorce. she wanted her cake and wanted to eat it too. Her regret is truly that her love dream got shattered with Priya's disclosure not that she had created a sin by betraying her sister's trust and doing everything in her power to break her sister's marriage. She has demonstrated the same selfishness in my opinion that Gaurav did in doign the wrong then using their emotional circumstance to cry their helplessness from the rooftops. On top of that she expects the very people she betrayed so casually to be her support structure? Shameless is more like it.

This are the type of people that inspire Vidya's simple-minded trust and sympathy.

Yet, Aditya who truly had the wool pulled over his eyes and when the blinders came off acted the way a reasonable person does gets no sympathy - he did not commit a wrogn act i.e. sham marriage, rape or molest anyone, have an illicit affair, etc. all he did was make an error in judgement and maintain a cool attitude with his wife. they had a marital spat but he never neglected his commitments. he still doesn't. this man gets no sympathy. fine. but he definitely gets accused harshly. wow talk about a double standard.



Aditya is impulsive, hes shown that from the beginning, he gets angry quickly but his heart is in the right place.
I'm not saying the way he treated Priya and Devyani was acceptable, he was way out of line. But now he accepts all his faults and does not hide away from his mistakes. He has no problems in asking Devyani, SJ or anyone else for help when it concerns Priya.
And he doesnt use his emotional state for sympathy like Gaurav and Uttara. Gaurav inherited that gene from Brahma.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Hope--



yes absolutely.

devyani is posign as a victim when she is the cause of her family's distress

did she cause BJ to rape Priya or seduce Uttara - NO

But what she did do is let her children hero worship a devil, she promoted him confidently and only delayed the inevitable feeling of abandonment of the children by the divorce

she did it inspite of knowing that she was unattractive to him as a wife because she wanted to preserve the maryada of this hornet's nest, she wanted the world to respect her rotten husband - abuser and manipulator of the first degree so that she could bask in the societal respect and prestige by association

if she had seperated the children when she found out how rotten he was, she would have saved thekids the giref of findign out this horrible way, Gaurav could have lived his life how he chose, Vidya could have had a real marriage, Priya would not be forced to live with her rapist, Aditya would not have had to face the unreasonable crossroad he did, and she would have lived a comfortable life too jsut not a lavish VIP one with her own rail dhibba for pilgrimages.

she wanted the gilded cage and when she let it go she did so realizing that she was no match for her sister's beauty and sexual allure to an already corrupted man. She did not do an honourable deed. She did what she always did. Preserve her self interest

For all the love for Priya that she claims when she a just come back from the hospital, gun shot girl decided to leave, all she did to make sure this FEARLESS DAUGHTER was safe was A CALL. a buck a call.

what does she really do? she leaves this girl who is wounded, in need of post operative care with no confirmed roof, food or money and goes to secure the property taht will be part of her own alimony. Thats what i was thinking too, she told Uttara and Vidya to go see Tara and she will look for Priya. But as soon as they left she went out of town herself.

aditya was the one putting his concern into action

for that he is not appreciated

if he did not then too he would not be appreciated😆 He would have born the brunt either way 😆

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Posted: 13 years ago
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aditya was the one putting his concern into action

for that he is not appreciated

if he did not then too he would not be appreciated😆 He would have born the brunt either way 😆



that is because he fits the bill as such - he's a jhakar and he's a man. baas that is the only criteria😆😆😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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^ agreed the women kept his fathers truth hidden from him all these years then thet tell him your father is no hero these are the things he has done without any proof, what did they expect? I undetstand Priyas anger towards Adi but there was no need for vidya to say what all those things. Why hasn't she spoke like that to Guarav who wronged her in soo many different ways. Adi supported her and has done a lot more for her than Guarav ever did. There is a big difference between the mistakes Adi made and what Uttara did so in my opinion it wasn't right for Vidya to say those things to Adi.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I don't think Uttara wants to make any of her life decisions by herself..
Why would she go around asking family members dramatically "Mein Kii Karaan Batah tu Manney"..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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As the doctor said, Uttara is not mentally stable. We have been saying that since last year 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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As the doctor said, Uttara is not mentally stable. We have been saying that since last year 😆



I think Devyani is the one who needs serious mental counselling. Uttara needs counsellign they provide to sex addicts. Priya needs either a marriage counsellor or a divorce lawyer

Woah she is living with the divorce lawyer as an unpaying guest so that is one thing of my wish list😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I can just see what is going to happen

Adi is going to be very upset with teh pregnancy. his support will be under duress and his hurt will show openly on his face.

then he will be morally whipped by wife, mother, SIL, imli and maybe even Jaggi for showing his hurt and being UNFAIR to poor Uttara.

I need to do some research and find the nearest innocent man's emancipation society so that I can sign up as a volunteer and sign my poor Adi up as a lifetime member as it is his jeena is haram every day upon day upon day. 😆😆😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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All the women in the house are taking out all their anger on him for all the hurt that has been caused by other men just because he is the only man left in the house. Yet he still stays in the house so he can support his family.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think she stated her reason for staying in that house clearly - she'll be able to live a more liberal life here - a life where she atleast has a chance to make something out of herself, as opposed to the life in her village with her parents.

As for her not allowing Uttara to make a decision, I think the entire family is against this, it's not just Vidya. So why single Vidya out? Priya tried the samething Vidya tried, and Devyani succeeded in. Granted, Devyani's opinion will carry more weight given that it was she that Uttara was trying to spare, but still, all the other 3 females felt the same way.

I don't find Vidya irritating at all - she's consistently shown as a simple minded, loving loyally and unquestioningly those who are related to her, and she forgives extremely easily.

Someone said she brought forth Aditya's folly when she herself has defended those who've done worse. Well, to put things in perspective - she defended her husband AFTER she left him, and decided to live her own life. She defended him AFTER she was asked to come back for a divorce. She defended him AFTER she realized that he realized his mistake and was genuinely sorry. But mostly, she defended him AFTER she fell in love with him.

Also, she didn't blame Aditya out of the blue - she said herself that it was in the context of Aditya judging someone else harshly. I thought she was very right in bringing Aditya's choices up - no one in that house has the right to point any finger at anyone, except maybe Jaggi and Imli. They've all either committed, been part of, or have silently watched grave sins happen. But they've all come out of it strong and have learned their lessons. So no one should judge anyone harshly there. And THAT is what she was trying to tell Aditya.

As for her taking Uttara's side - she's just being a sympathetic and supporting family member. Something Priya would be doing, and Devyani would be doing, if they were around. I felt she was doing the right thing.

Uttara is free to make her choice, just as Vidya is free to give her advice and try to convince Uttara.

I would've done the same - not because I feel that Uttara should or shouldn't keep the baby - but because I know Uttara is making a decision in haste, out of anger and desperation, and mostly not with a sound mind. As Priya said - she needs to sit down, and think about this with a cool mind.

On a separate but curious note - why did the doctor say she was against it? I live in the US and have been here for the most part so I don't know what the rules are about abortion in the rest of the world. I'm just curious to know if it's considered illegal in other parts? Or does it require both the parties consent?

-S

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