punarjanma - Page 5

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Beautiful take on the Kundalini, Shreya ! I saw that Utkarsh was maha impressed with it!

Shyamala Di

Today, when there is so much rich gyan flowing here, I have no time to even read the posts! 😡

Whatever happened to Rudra, is that can happen literally or imaginary?

Originally posted by: Neel_M

Whatever happened to Rudra, is that can happen literally or imaginary?

I'm not Hindu and very confused that is that really can happen on this earth?

I don't think it was an astra, Arshi, it looked more like a sort of staff of office. The insignia of the garuda pramukh, along with that garuda pendant (which we earlier mistook for Maya's domukhi anti-asthma rudraksha!I).

An astra is used against someone else, and it has to be activated by the relevant mantra.Rudra's dand only channelised the cosmic energy that courses thru it and then thru him.

I was only wondering where it went afterwards. Maybe, like with cloud computing systems, it is stored up there for retrieval when needed😉, though Maimuyi/Bhairavi (MB) took it out of a box near the lingam.

It was a curious lingam, by the way, with no base, which is normally never the case.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Arshics

Thank you dear, it is indeed a lot of new learning for me. While I enjoyed the visual experience of last night, I was not clear about the meaning of that.

Any knowledge of the Astra that invoked this?

Originally posted by: sp108

Lovely post Arshi!

You put across Bhairavi's role very well. And also the symbolism of Kundalini awakening and the Punarjanma of Rudra. Very apt title.

I loved Seema today. But who is Bhairavi? Is she visible to all? Or she creates illusions? Why was she not visible on the Shivand's GPS? And looks like the Nagas know about the Garuds better than the Garuds themselves 😆

I'll give my two cents on Kundalini. Kundala means coiled. Kundalini is a feminine energy in 3 and a half coils. This energy is situated in the triangular bone at the base of our spine. Incidentally, this bone was called Saccrum (sacred) by the Greeks. When Kundalini rises, she pierces through the 7 chakras and breaks out of the last chakra - Sahastrar integrating us (jeevatma) with the energy of the cosmos - Paramatma. They call it second birth, because the first time we are born as the body, and then by Kundalini awakening, re-born with a new identity that we are part of the cosmos. The death of 'I' ness in a more philosophical sense. So definitely, the scene of Kundalini awakening that the makers showed was symbolic of his punarjanm. Of being born with a new identity. A dwija (twice born) in the true sense. Incidentally, the word dwija can also mean bird in Sanskrit. Symbolisms galore!

True, Arshi, but I wonder if Neel was referring to the chakra awakening, or to the whole course of events in Mahakumbh re: the amrit.

If the latter, Neel, the search for immortality being an eternal obsession (though what one would go living on and on and on for as all those you cared for died off around you is beyond me!), the tale of the samudra manthan and the amrit is like the tales of the Holy Grail, the cup from which Lord Jesus drank the wine at the Last Supper. Remember Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade? And the Ark of the Covenant in Raiders of the Lost Ark?

It is fantasy, but it is anchored in mythology. And mythology is the collective belief of a whole people, which has, over the millennia, become their truth. So, one can believe or not believe in all this, as one chooses.

But if you are asking about what happened on Tuesday night, the awakening of the chakras along Rudra's spine, in the middle of his forehead , and finally at the crown of his head, then yes, this is possible.

Of course without all that sound and lightning and the special effects😉, but it is possible in the sense that thru deep concentration and meditation, usually under the guidance of a guru, spiritual energy, the Kundalini shakti, can be released from the muladhara chakra at the base of the spine.

I am reproducing Santhi's diagram of the chakras here for reference.

As noted above, the coiled energy of this Kundalini can be awakened by shaktipat, spiritual transmission from a Guru or by spiritual practices such as yoga or meditation. Sometimes Kundalini reportedly awakens spontaneously as the result of physical or psychological trauma, or even for no apparent reason.

When awakened, the Kundalini energy is said to rise up from the muladhara chakra through the central nadi, the sushumna, inside or alongside the spine and reaching the top of the head. The progress of Kundalini through the different chakras leads to different levels of awakening and mystical experience, until Kundalini finally reaches the top of the head, Sahasrara or crown chakra, producing an extremely profound mystical experience

There are two broad approaches to Kundalini awakening: active and passive. The active approach involves systematic physical exercises and techniques of concentration, visualization, pranayama (breath practice) and meditation under the guidance of a competent teacher. These techniques come from any of the four main branches of yoga, and some forms of yoga, such as Kriya yoga, Kundalini yoga and Sahaja yoga emphasize Kundalini techniques.

The passive approach is instead a path of surrender where one lets go of all the impediments to the awakening rather than trying to actively awaken Kundalini. A chief part of the passive approach is shaktipat where one individual's Kundalini is awakened by another who already has the experience. Shaktipat only raises Kundalini temporarily but gives the student an experience to use as a basis.

I suppose this last is what happened to Rudra on Tuesday, with Bhairavi, the teacher, awakening Rudra's Kundalini, and the 7 chakras as well. She must have been helped in this by the enormous trauma he had suffered so recently. But it would have been only a temporary activation, and he would have to build on it later by meditation and so on.

If you are interested in the Kundalini phenomenon, you might like to look thru the below extract from a speech by Swami Vivekananda, on of the greatest philosophers and mystics that India has ever produced, who was also a great man of action.

Lastly, I would not think that the Kundalini awakening would be limited to Hindus. It can be achieved by anyone who has the determination and the concentration necessary for it, and the spiritual bent of mind. After all, the cosmic consciousness, that we Hindus call the Parabrahman, HAS to be universal, whatever the name it is called by or whatever the form in which it is visualised.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

THE KUNDALINI SHAKTI

Swami Vivekananda described Kundalini briefly in London during his lectures on Raja Yoga as follows:

"According to the Yogis, there are two nerve currents in the spinal column, called Pingal and Id, and a hollow canal called Sushumna running through the spinal cord. At the lower end of the hollow canal is what the Yogis call the "Lotus of the Kundalini". They describe it as triangular in form in which, in the symbolical language of the Yogis, there is a power called the Kundalini, coiled up.

When that Kundalini awakes, it tries to force a passage through this hollow canal, and as it rises step by step, as it were, layer after layer of the mind becomes open and all the different visions and wonderful powers come to the Yogi. When it reaches the brain, the Yogi is perfectly detached from the body and mind; the soul finds itself free.

We know that the spinal cord is composed in a peculiar manner. If we take the figure eight horizontally () there are two parts which are connected in the middle. Suppose you add eight after eight, piled one on top of the other, that will represent the spinal cord. The left is the Ida, the right Pingala, and that hollow canal which runs through the centre of the spinal cord is the Sushumna.

Where the spinal cord ends in some of the lumbar vertebrae, a fine fibre issues downwards, and the canal runs up even within that fibre, only much finer. The canal is closed at the lower end, which is situated near what is called the sacral plexus, which, according to modern physiology, is triangular in form. The different plexuses that have their centres in the spinal canal can very well stand for the different "lotuses" of the Yogi.^"

When Kundalini Shakti is conceived as a goddess, then, when it rises to the head, it unites itself with the Supreme Being (Lord Shiva). Then the aspirant becomes engrossed in deep meditation and infinite bliss

Originally posted by: Arshics

Neel, a very good question and difficult to answer even for a Hindu.

But what happened to Rudra cannot be called imaginary, let's say it's a story, a fiction but it's roots are in hindu mythology.

Our scriptures and folklore are full of tales and anecdotes like these, and rudras story is inspired from these ancient texts.

So, for instance, one of the most well known of these tales is the story of amrit, when the gods and the demons fought for amrit, the Garudas were incharge of protecting it and nagas tried to steal it from them.

So, if we were to look at it logically, we would say, it's not real, or possible, it's all fiction.

But to have grown up with these stories and tales all our childhood, they are very real to us and somewhere within our core lives the thought that many many years ago, away from history and archeology and carbon dating and dinosaurs, all this happened.

Aur yahaan hamara laakhon ka gyaan jaaye! 😉

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Arshics

Today, when there is so much rich gyan flowing here, I have no time to even read the posts! 😡

Meri do takian di naukri...

Looking forward to catching up with all the information over the weekend.

Thanks Arshi and Shyamala for elaborating! I got some knowledge about Amrit from the forum. Thanks to both of your post and PM, Shruthi and some other posts.

Shyamalaji even I noticed the ling had no base. Basically ling (shiv) & The Yoni (shakti) . I thought the Shakti/ base/ Yoni was there in Amurt Roop of Bhairavi. The whole process of Awakening looked more towards Hypnotherapy to me. Bhairavi seems to be a good psychotherapist to me. A force firmly behind Rudra to keep him focused on the mission. I want to see how she handles other Garuds.

You are welcome, Neel, and no, your questions were not in the least silly. It would have been so if you had not asked them. I am glad I was able to be of some help.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: Neel_M

Thanks Arshi and Shyamala for elaborating! I got some knowledge about Amrit from the forum. Thanks to both of your post and PM, Shruthi and some other posts.

I know though this is a myth or a fiction... but it lies in your core belief.

Tuesday episode was too much for me, not only awakening of chakras', starting from appearance of

Maimui or bhairavi to chakras.

I'm watching this show with full concentrations just to understand the myth of Amrit,

so forgive me for silly questions 😃