Mahabharat Retelecast Discussion Thread 5 - Page 112

Originally posted by: Andy3456

Yudhisthir is indeed the main protagonist. We may/may not agree to his thoughts but he indeed his. It shows how he first got "Vijaya" (i.e materialistic win by winning the war) and then "Jaya" (by ascending to the heaven in his mortal body and winning over his anger). Krishna and Draupadi as well. As far I remember a post in Quora, I read after Rajsuya he went to Ved Vyas, then Ved Vyas told he would be responsible for the destruction of his clan so to avoid this Yudhisthira took a vow that he would not disobey his elder. That's what made him play the dice game. SP Mahabharat made Arjun hero which is absolutely not right. Infact, I remember Krishna telling for what he wants, he needs two person : Arjun and Draupadi. But it's wrong, two persons should have been Yudhisthir and Draupadi. Arjuna was just a person who won the Swaymbar and nothing else.

@bold that's true and playing the game of dice was fine

But that's a useless excuse of his to continue the game, none of his elders had asked him to play till slavery

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

That is an individual choice list and appreciated one, but per epic per say, it's not so. The epic os definitely about the Jaya of Yudhishtir+Draupadi and Parajay of Duryodhan, so these three are the Central characters. Yudhishtir+Draupadi the protagonist and Duryodhan the antagonist

Karna and Arjun could be called the second leads from their respective sides, followed by Bheem Krishna and Shakuni Dusshashan (although I don't think he was that important, yet he can't be ignored)

Bheeshm being the patriarch/overseer and the common point was another pillar of the epic

Excluding them, the other characters did contribute a lot, had enough importance but were not as important and necessary as these ten.

@Abhimanyu was a great warrior no doubt, in fact was perhaps the best in there, but his major contribution to war was his death, since that made Arjun brutal and hard, before them he was playing light on his relatives/friends.

His entry into the Chakravyu and the performance there might be of great courage and valour but wasn't of much support to the Pandavas, it didn't help much from the war results per say

Actually krishna plays a very important role more than arjuna does. He comes before him. And bheem is equal to arjuna

Order will - yudhishtra panchali duryodhan

Krishna

Arjuna/bheema/karna.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

@bold that's true and playing the game of dice was fine

But that's a useless excuse of his to continue the game, none of his elders had asked him to play till slavery

exactly true😡

he played due to his addiction🤮

Originally posted by: naq5

if dury was fighting war with backing of karna then yudi was fighting war with backing of arjuna.

Arjun was not just for swyamvar . He was imp because he was their main warrior. he was also imp because of his proximity to krishna. for krishna he was most important and the whole geeta gyan was given through him. i feel krishna is the main protagonist not yudi

Krishna enters the epic at Swayamwar, and is missing at major parts like Dyut Sabha, big portion of Van Parva, he could be anything but the main protagonist

He is actually just the most important strategic support to the main protagonist, its no where his story (his stories are in Mahabharata spin-offs like Sreemad Bhagwatam or Harivamsapurana)

We are tempted to make him the lead because of hos divinity not because of his role

I agree on the Arjun part though

Originally posted by: Andy3456

Yudhisthir is indeed the main protagonist. We may/may not agree to his thoughts but he indeed his. It shows how he first got "Vijaya" (i.e materialistic win by winning the war) and then "Jaya" (by ascending to the heaven in his mortal body and winning over his anger). Krishna and Draupadi as well. As far I remember a post in Quora, I read after Rajsuya he went to Ved Vyas, then Ved Vyas told he would be responsible for the destruction of his clan so to avoid this Yudhisthira took a vow that he would not disobey his elder. That's what made him play the dice game. SP Mahabharat made Arjun hero which is absolutely not right. Infact, I remember Krishna telling for what he wants, he needs two person : Arjun and Draupadi. But it's wrong, two persons should have been Yudhisthir and Draupadi. Arjuna was just a person who won the Swaymbar and nothing else.

No Andy , Yudi is only importance 2 epic not a protonogist , arjun is protonogist along with krishna & draupadi .

Arjun's victory on drupad paved way 4 Draupadi's entry in d epic.

Arjun's win in swayamber pave way 2 her marriage with 5 Pandavas.

Ha agar drupad ne swayamber mai archery ke jagah manipulation ka competition rakha hota to pakka Yudi protonogist hota.

Bheem himself said 2 yudi how much Pandavas lives depend on arjun .

Bheem said even gods fear 2 attack indraprastha coz arjun was protecting it .

Apart from arjun bheem is also a protonogist.

In geeta krishna said amoung all Pandavas he is arjun .

Yudi is only d reason of all miseries of Pandavas & specially draupadi.

I don't think he ever gave any happiness to draupadi infact by marrying him draupadi became queen but it was her own qualities she was able to become an excellent queen & finance minister of indraprastha.

He always let down & staked draupadi in d name of dharma but she freed him first in d name of dharma.

Yudi actually never understood d meaning of dharma.

He was someone who was jealous of all his brothers specially arjun .

I read somewhere even Kunti called him coward 🤣& ask arjun & nakul 2 follow draupadi as bheem acts according 2 his heart & brain ,Sahdev already had his brain in right position.

yudishtra is main becos he is the king and him being dharmraj following rules and regulations and as king creating new ones his knowledge and also saying the truth

its me who don't have a respect for him

for me the heroes were arjun n bheem

krishna i don't even want to compare becos like i say whatever happened its all staged by him he is mahanayak

Yudhishtira's vow to Vyasa was not to obey elders but to not indulge in hostilities with Kurus.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

No Andy , Yudi is only importance 2 epic not a protonogist , arjun is protonogist along with krishna & draupadi .

Arjun's victory on drupad paved way 4 Draupadi's entry in d epic.

Arjun's win in swayamber pave way 2 her marriage with 5 Pandavas.

Ha agar drupad ne swayamber mai archery ke jagah manipulation ka competition rakha hota to pakka Yudi protonogist hota.

Bheem himself said 2 yudi how much Pandavas lives depend on arjun .

Bheem said even gods fear 2 attack indraprastha coz arjun was protecting it .

Apart from arjun bheem is also a protonogist.

In geeta krishna said amoung all Pandavas he is arjun .

Yudi is only d reason of all miseries of Pandavas & specially draupadi.

I don't think he ever gave any happiness to draupadi infact by marrying him draupadi became queen but it was her own qualities she was able to become an excellent queen & finance minister of indraprastha.

He always let down & staked draupadi in d name of dharma but she freed him first in d name of dharma.

Yudi actually never understood d meaning of dharma.

He was someone who was jealous of all his brothers specially arjun .

I read somewhere even Kunti called him coward 🤣& ask arjun & nakul 2 follow draupadi as bheem acts according 2 his heart & brain ,Sahdev already had his brain in right position.

my darling is back with a bang🤗

nothing more to say you have put it more beautifully❤😍

for me its always krishna draupadi arjun bheem

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Yudhishtira's vow to Vyasa was not to obey elders but to not indulge in hostilities with Kurus.

Not playing the dice game till slavery is no way entering into hostilities

BRC MB vastraharan chapter draupadi call yudishtir juari many times🤣her taunts were blazing fire that can burn all 5 pandavas with her words🔥