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Did you like the depiction of Karna's reconciliation w/ the Pandavas?
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Originally posted by: Sabhayata
agreed vrish
even i liked Ramanad sagar's shri krishna's presentation of the truth revelation to pandavs the best more than BRC and ⭐️Bharat.BRC was the worst one for me panadavs didn't show any emotions at all not even yudi only except his curse .
In shri krishna at least the timing of truth revelation was correct and what i loved the most was when Karna's soul appears to bless his brother's😊
Any idea what were the versions that Debroy used in coming up w/ the CE? One was KMG, and from what I understand, there were 3 others. Any idea?Also, is Gita Press identical to KMG, aside from translation issues (not interpretation issues)?
Translation would mean a word to word mapping of what's said in Sanskrit to what's said in English/Hindi/...
Interpretation would be drawing conclusions from whatever is translated, and including that in the text.So Gita Press would have the same discrepancies that KMG has - such as Karna asking for the Shakti in return for kk, Karna & Shakuni continuing to be a part of Dury's cabal after his second attempt @ poisoning Bhima, Karna being Narakasura or whatever asura, Karna being friends w/ Dury in Shanti Parva, et al?
Any idea what were the versions that Debroy used in coming up w/ the CE? One was KMG, and from what I understand, there were 3 others. Any idea?
Yudhishtira asks, "Who is Karna's mother? Which woman could be so heartless as to abandon her own child as soon as he was born? You must know who she is, since you know so much about Karna. Who was she that ruined what might have been such a noble life? Is the woman still alive?"
All eyes are on Kunti. She looks at her sons' faces, one to the other. She sees Krishna and his eyes are full of mercy. Kunti feels a deep strength dawning on her from the Avatara's gaze. She turns back to Yudhishtira. She looks straight at him and, in a ringing voice, Kunti cries, "Yes, Karna's mother still lives and she stands before you, Yudhishtira. Karna was my son, my first child!"
She sways on her feet and falls on the soft silt of the riverbank. Vidura rushes to Kunti's side, while Yudhishtira stands as if he has been struck by lightning. Slowly, he turns to face Arjuna, who, if anything, looks more stricken than his brother. Into the hush that has fallen, Yudhishtira murmurs as in a dream, a nightmare, "We killed our brother."
A roar breaks out of Arjuna. He splashes out of the river and falls on the ground, crying, "What have I done, Yudhishtira? I have killed my own brother!"
He cries out his shock, repeatedly, until river, forest and sky echo with it. "I killed my brother and I gloated!" howls Arjuna. "How can I go on living after what I did?"
His eyes roll up and he faints. Yudhishtira's eyes turn crimson; otherwise, he does not move, but stands as if his mother's confession has turned him into a statue. Bheema staggers out from the water and sits beside the unconscious Arjuna. The effect of Kunti's truth is most evident on poor Bheema. Those that watch see him turn, before their eyes, from an overgrown boy into a man.
Bheema remembers the day of the exhibition in Hastinapura. He thinks of the moment when he mocked Karna, Sutaputra, you are not fit to have yourself killed by my brother Arjuna. Put down your bow and get yourself a horsewhip. That will suit you better.'
He remembers what Duryodhana said to him then, Karna brims with every noble quality a ksha-triya should have. He is like a tiger. I pity you, Bheema, that you don't see him for what he is and are blind to his greatness, which shines from him like a sun. I have made him king of Anga; he deserves to be lord of this earth!'
How foolish he, Bheema, had been on that day and how prescient Duryodhana. Bheema's thoughts drift on to Kurukshetra and the duel he fought against Karna. He sees Karna's mocking eyes and his strange smile again, as he prodded Bheema with the tip of his bow, contemptuously and spared his life. Karna's words are burned on his heart, Some day, Bheema, you will think back on this duel and feel proud. Some day you will rejoice that you fought Karna.'
Bheema knows, from now, that moment will be his most precious memory. It crosses his mind that, hereafter, for him Karna would be his eldest brother. Near Bheema, Sahadeva sits in a daze, thinking of the moment when Karna spared his life, Go now, boy and hide behind your brother Arjuna. Don't come to fight your betters.'
Sahadeva sees the glittering eyes and the haughty smile. He also sobs. Yudhishtira has come ashore now and sits shaken and grim, never looking at his mother. His heart cries out within him that it would be better if he never saw her face again, for what she did to his brother, his older brother. Why, for what she had done not just to Karna but to all of them, the sin she made them commit.
Sitting with Krishna and Arjuna, Yudhishtira remembers the final day of Karna's life. He recalls every moment of it, vividly. He thinks of how he mocked his brother, calling him sutaputra. Suddenly, Yudhishtira turns to Kunti. Coldly, he asks her, "Mother, did Karna know who he was? Did he know he was our brother?"
She hangs her head and cries. Krishna answers him, "He knew."
All the Pandavas turn to face Krishna. Yudhishtira whispers, "And you also knew, my Lord?"
"Yes."
The frantic Yudhishtira turns on Kunti, "How could you keep this from us? You made us kill our brother. Do you know, when I heard Karna had been killed, I ran to the field to see if the news was true? More than anyone else, I wanted Karna dead. I feared my brother more than I did any other man. Mother, how could you let us do this horrible thing?"
Then Yudhishtira looks into Kunti's eyes and sees an age of grief in them, far, far greater than his own. He sees that his mother already suffers as much as she can bear. He sighs and does not say a word more. With his brothers around him, he enters the river again. Now he offers tarpana to his dead brother and it seems the tears he sheds are all he needs as holy water for Karna's final journey. Somehow, Abhimanyu's death and even the nearer deaths of Draupadi's sons are forgotten. The Pandavas have just one thought in their minds: they had another brother and they killed him.
Seeing the Pandavas' mourn, the women on the riverbank set up a fresh lament. When he has finished offering tarpana and pinda to dead Karna, Yudhishtira raises his voice above the women's wailing and curses womankind, "It is because my mother kept her secret so well that we killed our brother. May no woman ever be able to keep a secret again!"
Yeah, for a Krishna centric show, Ramanand Sagar did a fantastic job covering the Mahabharata. But strangely enough for a Krishna centric show, Satyaki, Kritavarma & Chekitan didn't exist 🤔My only complaint about it - not that members of this AT will mind 😆 - is that it was too obsessed w/ Karna, and even credited him w/ things that other warriors did. E.g. the Vaishnav astra, which Krishna intercepted & made a garland, was fired by Bhagadatta. Not Karna, as shown in the serial. I also hated the serial depicting Karna as the main killer of Abhi - now, all the 3 serials about MB have that only, 😡 and people are surprised when they read, or are told, that it was Dushy's son. They also threw some of the sequences out of wack, such as showing Ghato get killed after Drona, or Krishna & Kunti approach Karna after he became the senapati of the Kauravas on day 15. Making it look like Karna had even fewer choices than he actually did.But yeah, the timing of the truth revelation was accurate, and as you say, Karna's apparition appearing there to thank (rather than bless, since he had folded hands) was a touching finale to the event. RS gave it as much justice as he could, w/o screwing around w/ that part of the story.
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