Mahabharat Episode Discussion Thread # 14 - Page 16

Originally posted by: thearcher

One more. Bheeshma and Karna were downed by Arjun which was necessary for Pandavas. But the 100 sons including Dury were done in by Bheem. Why is this character being treated as so much chump change?

Pandavon ka bal Arjun hai? 😕 How about Arjun AND Bheem?

Originally posted by: Sadhana_pr

True! I have wondered about this too. A blog post was shared on the forum which had a hilarious take on this. It said "can you imagine Thakur saying mujhe Gabbar nahin, unke checkpost-wala guard chahiye?"😆

Originally posted by: Rehanism

In any case did Arjun expect Jayadrath to cordially greet them with a bouquet and give a free pass without a fight? Obviously he would resist them. He's ENEMY. That's his job. I guess it was all to avenge their hurt ego of being defeated by a mediocre Jayadrath, whom they had previously captured and enslaved. I don't see any reason why Jayadrath would be marked for Abhimanyu's death. Of all he was least responsible for Abhimanyu's death.

Originally posted by: TheWatcher

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Drona did not order Karna to break Abhimanyu's bow from behind and Karna did not break it from behind.

I think Jaydrath was one of the easiest target and hence Arjuna chose him, he had already vow'd for killing Karna, why not kill him before the next sunset or immolate himself, he was not able to kill Jaydrath without help - let alone killing Karna before the sunset.

However, there can be another reason for Arjuna vowing to kill Jaydrath - Rage - He just lost his son, he was blinded by rage and he chose the first person in line viz, Jaydrath.

Originally posted by: shyam09

Here are the top moments / epiphanies I saw / had:
1) There can't be a child more worse than StarAshwatthama ... this goes beyond the boundaries of peer pressure and beyond the realm of stupidity ... the kid is blackmailing his dad to his death.

Why doesn't Drona remind him that he's a brahmin, and if he's that scared of dying, he should withdraw from the war?

2) StarBhim clearly doesn't understand what happens when Indra's Shakti collides with Brahmastra ... not that I know either, but I figure using one Brahmastra is bad enough on it's image, but using it to counter Indra's shakti isn't going to be result in the showering of flower petals

Even the real Bhima was defiant towards weapons - when Ashwi released the Narayanastra at the Pandavas after Drona's death, everybody surrendered to it @ Krishna's orders - everybody except Mr Vrikodar. As a result, that weapon stopped focussing on anybody else and zeroed in on him. A braveheart's braveheart!!! 👏

3) StarDrona, despite saying that he has no greed for being the commander, still sort of accepts it. It's shown as being a last resort to protect his son, but still there wasn't a need for him to make that vow. He clearly could have turned the tables to his favor saying - you want me, but I don't want you ... so let's cut a deal. I will capture StarYuddhi, end the war, and voila!

See above - he could have played the caste card, which he was playing w/ ⭐️Karna

4) StarAswatthama has proved that he is StarDuryodhan's misteress (get it "mister"ess ... ahaha punny ... ok bad joke)

Already we had KaJu, where both were in bi- relationships, and where KaJu broke up after Ka insulted Ju's other 1/2, or 1/3, or 1/4, or 1/5, or 1/10 (depending on whether one counts Ka himself, or Subhadra, or Krishna, or the remaining 4 Pandavas) In this one, the 2 were genetically related, but only 1 knew it at this time.

Now, in your new scenario, you have an inter-caste dostana relationship b/w Brahmin Ashwi & Kshatriya Duri. I wonder what the shastras say about such relationships - are they pratiloma or upaloma? 😈🤣

5) StarBhim already takes down Vikarna ... aww ... but looks like StarYuyutsu will be saved (he isn't part of Dury's 99 brothers, he is Dury's step brother).

Why, did ⭐️Bhima say anything specific about Vikarna?

6) Was there any closure on StarShikandi yesterday?

What exactly is supposed to happen to ⭐️Shikhandi? Is she supposed to turn back into a princess, or is the yaksha supposed to get cursed? Also, if Shikhandi becomes Shikhandini again, does Ashwi kill her in the night attack? Or would ⭐️Shakuni finish the job by stabbing her again, and this time, since she's no longer needed to down Mahamahim Bheeeshm, she can be allowed to peacefully become virgati prapt?

7) That dialogue where Arjun tells Madhav that it's time to go say Pranipath to Angraj was perhaps the best moment. KAJU ZINDABAD!

8) Why can't StarPandavas implement Operation Capture the Dury ... I mean the only difference this time is that there isn't Bhishma to do any protecting. Arjun keeps Karna busy, Drona is kept busy by BFF and BFF's son, and Bhim is free to take on Dury. Or was that operation taken because Bhim wasn't allowed to kill Dury's bro's because Bhishma was commander?

Due to the shakti, Arjun shouldn't fight Karna. So let Abhi fight Karna, Arjun Drona or Ashwi, Drupada or Dhrishtadyumna the other of those 2, Bhima go after Dury, Virata after Shakuni, Shikhandi after Dushashan (who she did defeat during the gurudakshina war, remember?) and Prativindya after Susharma. Yudhi can invade Hastinapur again 😈 forcing Drona to leave, and leaving the Kauravas again @ Bhima's mercy. Think we have everyone covered, right? Since this war has no Kripacharya, no Satyaki, no Bhurishravas, no Bhagadatta, nobody... Yeah, they should resume that operation to capture Dury.

9) I like StarKarna's challenge talks more than any other character (I mean just whatever he says and whatever actions he does. It's fresh, it's awesome, it's not that boring ... for example, during the KaJu moment, whenever Ka spoke, I was attentive but the moment Ju started to speak my mind slightly got distracted.)

10) I hope StarKarna wins. The way he got off the chariot to wipe the dirt / dust of the Kurukshetra on his forehead -- no other person has done this during the war. Money is on you StarKarna. Don't fail me! Take down those StarPandavas and then those StarKauravas so you can become the StarKing of StarHastinapur!!

Karna reminds me of Maharana Veer Hammir, the founder of the Sisodia dynasty of Mewar. That ruler was the first to do something like that, and looks like authors got so impressed that they had prior heros doing them. Ramanand Sagar had Rama doing that after his return to Ayodhya, and now we have Swastik having Vasusena doing that.

Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt

Wow Kaju Ke Beech Hasya-Baan?

"Lagta hain aapko mere us roop ka vismaran nahi hua hain"🤣