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Posted: 11 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: TheWatcher

It was indeed a shameful victory for the Pandavas, it would have been better if Krishna himself would have killed everyone.

How it was a shameful victory? -- They killed Bhishma by treachery, they killed Bhurishrava by treachery, they killed Drona treacherously, they killed Jaydrath treacherously, they killed Karna treacherously, they killed Duryodhana also treacherously.

Do I need to count more?, can I ask where was their 'Samarthya' during the battle, no matter if you are a Pandava fan or of the opposition party, there is no shame in accepting that the Pandavas won with treachery, even though they were righteous.

I am not denying that the Pandavas were righteous, obviously they were righteous


You're right, it was treachery! What you sow, shall you reap. Karna, Duryodhana, Dushasana, Bhishma, Drona.. (the list goes on for a while aswell) have all also showcased their samarthya in the dice hall by suggesting, ordering, watching mutely, that and while a woman was being practically disrobed infront of an entire sabha. And all that, treacherously too...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sanayabarunlove


Nothing about Kurukshetra is unfair and at the same time it IS unfair too!! In the original Mahabharat Shikhandi comes infront of Bhishma and using the former as a shield, Arjuna sends many arrows the later's way, injuring him. It was Bhishma's punishment for siding the wrong people. It was his punishment for having kept quite when his grandson's wife was almost disrobed infront of an entire sabha! And he couldn't have been defeated until they played that move. If for justice to prevail, a deceit can be helpful, then one might aswell cheat their way in! Believe in God, you automatically follow the right path.

Very well said
I am glad Paandavas were unfair too
afterall atleast at the end they learned that unrighteous people must be treated in an unrighteous way ...
PS: I have due respect for Bheeshmacharya Dronacharya et al
it is one of the greatest teachings of the lord that to attain Dharma one can perform acts in an unrighteous manner

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very well said
I am glad Paandavas were unfair too
afterall atleast at the end they learned that unrighteous people must be treated in an unrighteous way ...
PS: I have due respect for Bheeshmacharya Dronacharya et al
it is one of the greatest teachings of the lord that to attain Dharma one can perform acts in an unrighteous manner


And that too, the Pandavas also send a peace treaty their way. Duryodhan's ego was bigger than his dharma. So one can't really say the Kauravas didn't get a fair warning from Krishna before the war began! :D
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bunnylovessunny

Very well said
I am glad Paandavas were unfair too
afterall atleast at the end they learned that unrighteous people must be treated in an unrighteous way ...
PS: I have due respect for Bheeshmacharya Dronacharya et al
it is one of the greatest teachings of the lord that to attain Dharma one can perform acts in an unrighteous manner


And that too, the Pandavas also send a peace treaty their way. Duryodhan's ego was bigger than his dharma. So one can't really say the Kauravas didn't get a fair warning from Krishna before the war began! :D


True, knowing Dharma is a virtue and following it is beyond a virtue!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Firstly...the actually events that happnd n what is being shwn in ⭐️Bharat now are poles apart...no similarity at all...pls read the text before coming to a conclusion...
N like others said...as u sow so u reap...there is no denying that bhishma wronged amba Ambika n ambalika...his death ws necessary fr dharma...pandavas did not fancy killing him...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bunnylovessunny


You're right, it was treachery! What you sow, shall you reap. Karna, Duryodhana, Dushasana, Bhishma, Drona.. (the list goes on for a while aswell) have all also showcased their samarthya in the dice hall by suggesting, ordering, watching mutely, that and while a woman was being practically disrobed infront of an entire sabha. And all that, treacherously too...


No, no please don't exaggerate. It was only a minor transgression- actually even this they 'repented' profusely so it shouldn't count...oh by the way, please don't count- poisoning, burning, persecuting, cheating, enslaving, confiscating, bullying and encroaching others' properties as anything serious. Only serious 'mistake' ( and you see, it's only a matter of 'mistake') VH must be overlooked. So shameful...'their ends' not VH sir.🤢
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth


No, no please don't exaggerate. It was only a minor transgression- actually even this they 'repented' profusely so it shouldn't count...oh by the way, please don't count- poisoning, burning, persecuting, cheating, enslaving, confiscating, bullying and encroaching others' properties as anything serious. Only serious 'mistake' ( and you see, it's only a matter of 'mistake') VH must be overlooked. So shameful...'their ends' not VH sir.🤢


Haha, I like your sarcasm! :D :D :D Love your way of proving a point :D
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Posted: 11 years ago
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What makes you feel Bheeshma's death was not what he deserved? First of all, he was not killed. He had the boon of choosing to die whenever he wanted to and he died in his own will, or decided to leave the earth on his will after all that he could do was done. How else could have Bheeshma died? He died in his own will coz of his vardaan.
And I also like frappie said believe that Vyas has nothing to do with this except if you blame for the words he used to describe his death which is definitely not ur point right? Now U believe the characters existed so.. Vyasa should not be blamed.
And I don't know what has StarBharat shown coz I am not watching it regularly.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@brish thanks fr mentioning it...many of us conveniently forget that bhishma din die because of those arrows but died at his own will...he dint see it as his death...he saw it as salvation..like sleeping after a long n tiresome day...Arjun n shikandini just became the instruments in this task...
His fall was one of the most glorious events of the entire war..when evn gods came down to salute the great hero...

N yaa frankly I see no point in blaming vyasa...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Guys just a word Also Bheeshma was the person who gave the idea of placing Shikhandi in Arjunas chariot in Paandava camp.

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