A shameful victory for Pandavas - Page 3

so, it was not even murder or slaying, it was all madhava's planing i tell you, usi kaa plan tha pandavon ko wahaan kauravon ke shivir main bhejne kaa.

Exactly. So then I don't understand what the started of this post exactly meant. And as Bhrata said it was madhav a plan. And all Bheeshma's will. Bheeshma told dem abt Shikhandi and he was the one who decided to leave his body after the war ended

@TM just read ur comment to a member that you haven't read Epic Mahabharat so I better say just don't watch this StarBharat n start reading actual epic and if u still wanna watch it so watch it plainly for entertainment as StarVyas are distorting all major turn of events for TRPs!!!

Originally posted by: smrth

No, no please don't exaggerate. It was only a minor transgression- actually even this they 'repented' profusely so it shouldn't count...oh by the way, please don't count- poisoning, burning, persecuting, cheating, enslaving, confiscating, bullying and encroaching others' properties as anything serious. Only serious 'mistake' ( and you see, it's only a matter of 'mistake') VH must be overlooked. So shameful...'their ends' not VH sir.🤢

these Pandavas fans I tell u 🤢 They make these beautiful grey characters as mentioned above as villains n think Pandavas had a halo over their heads 🤢

Originally posted by: bunnylovessunny

You're right, it was treachery! What you sow, shall you reap. Karna, Duryodhana, Dushasana, Bhishma, Drona.. (the list goes on for a while aswell) have all also showcased their samarthya in the dice hall by suggesting, ordering, watching mutely, that and while a woman was being practically disrobed infront of an entire sabha. And all that, treacherously too...

Well technically in VH everyone was wrong.Yudhishtir was the one who staked his wife and all pandavas were mute as well and lets not forget even when duryodhan gave them an option to take draupadi away from the hall they choose to side with their brother instead

i would say both facts are correct pandavas were more righteous than kauravs and they won by treachery as well

personally i wouldn't call it a shameful victory i wouldn't even call it a victory because pandavs lost so much more than they won.If pandavs would have won then yudhishtir would have been celebrating not lamenting.It was war in which no one won

Star Bharat ke aaj ka 'Bhheshm Vadh" scene was..😔🤔😵...wat was going on today!?...had hoped for something better from the team..🥺..way too Filmy..😕🥱

Dear TM:
I read that you have not read MB yet, ok but have you read Bhagabat Geeta at least? There Lord Krishna told Arjun to leave all Dharma and to take His shelter. He Himself makes the person sinless who does so. Exactly this order of God was obeyed by devotees during the whole war. Pandavas obeyed His words only and surrendered themselves at His Feet. They did not want to take the headach of thinking whethere their actions were right or wrong, they only left all their thoughts upto Lord and did whatever He ordered to do. So according to Geeta these surrendered devotees became sinless at once. Let us pay due respect to those devotees who could surrender to God completely, as many of us fail to do so!!

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Well technically in VH everyone was wrong.Yudhishtir was the one who staked his wife and all pandavas were mute as well and lets not forget even when duryodhan gave them an option to take draupadi away from the hall they choose to side with their brother instead

i would say both facts are correct pandavas were more righteous than kauravs and they won by treachery as well

personally i wouldn't call it a shameful victory i wouldn't even call it a victory because pandavs lost so much more than they won.If pandavs would have won then yudhishtir would have been celebrating not lamenting.It was war in which no one won

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

As we went through this many times before in other threads, yes the Pandavas committed a mistake, but they repented for their mistake which the others did not do, which is why Lord Krishna supported them. Repentance makes a big difference in one's karma, so although the Pandavas had also committed a sin that day, their sin was absolved through 13 years of repentance, whereas the Kauravas did not repent, so they all died through treachery only as per their karma.

i agree i am not doubting krishna ji's support to them they deserved krishna ji's support but my point was if we are talking about muteness during VH then almost all male character's of mahabharat need to take blame for that that is all

yes pandavas did repent but still VH will remain a mistake of their's right.That is all i am saying is during VH everyone except draupadi were wrong

Originally posted by: TheWatcher

It was indeed a shameful victory for the Pandavas, it would have been better if Krishna himself would have killed everyone.

How it was a shameful victory? -- They killed Bhishma by treachery, they killed Bhurishrava by treachery, they killed Drona treacherously, they killed Jaydrath treacherously, they killed Karna treacherously, they killed Duryodhana also treacherously.

Do I need to count more?, can I ask where was their 'Samarthya' during the battle, no matter if you are a Pandava fan or of the opposition party, there is no shame in accepting that the Pandavas won with treachery, even though they were righteous.

I am not denying that the Pandavas were righteous, obviously they were righteous