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13MEGHA05

@13MEGHA05

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Posted: 11 years ago

#21

even i had the same doubt...

he did so many adharmas in the dice game...

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Medha.S

@Medha.S

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Posted: 11 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: shani88
Are "we" Krishna to decide who goes to Heaven and who doesn't?

As Medha said, if Yudi reached Vaikuntha (not just heaven), then it should make all of YOU think as to why he must've reached Vaikuntha - Vishnu's highest abode...
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By the way, have you heard the "Vishnu Sahasranamam" (1000 names of Vishnu)? Yudhishthira gets mentioned in that ("Yudhishthira uvaacha")...so THAT should tell you something...

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ALL the Pandavas were mute witnesses to Draupadi's humiliation (Draupadi herself NEVER accepted the excuse of "jesht ka aadesh"). So, you should ALSO be asking why Krishna took the Pandava side in the Kurukshetra war when BOTH the Pandavas & the Kauravas were equally guilty in her humiliation - Kauravas because they DIRECTLY humiliated her, and the Pandavas because they went into mute mode...

When Krishna meets the Pandavas for the first time after the Disrobing, he did not blame the Pandavas or Yudhishtira but he was really angry, he looked as if he would go on a world destroying conquest and said that i will kill Duryodhna and Karna with my bare hands .. also something about their blood.

Even Krishna did not blame them for being slaves and losing their freedom and weapons.

He could have chastised at least Yudhishtira for accepting the game and playing it but he did not say a word to them.

Even later he always put them in the victim category along with Draupadi. He too openly blamed King Dhritrashtra and called him a bad king.

I think i posted the citation in the VH thread.

He blamed Dhritrashtra for being so 'Blind' and said that those Kuru Men did not do anything.

Only because all of them are Set Of Imbeciles! (😆 i love him)

If the Lord did not blame the man then who am i to do so? If He Himself invited Yudhishtira in Vaikunth with open Arms then who am i to decide that His decision was wrong and Yudhishtira should be in hell.

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Arunita Chandra

@RoseFairy

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Posted: 11 years ago

#23

i think he repented truly but still i don't understand the conception of dharam

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KHUSHI-99

@KHUSHI-99

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Posted: 11 years ago

#24

This thread is very useful I have to say,I really wanted one like this.Completely nowhere we find that Yudhi or Pandavas were blamed as I said even Draupadi did not blame him.Even in ⭐️Bharat she is blaming Duryodhan and Dushanan.Now I really dont feel like using short forms because it has sort of lightness and irony like Duri ,Yudhi(the one which I find the best🤣).Ok jokes apart.So after doing so much adharm as many think Yudhi did why did lord Krishna or Vishnu I don't remember(Whatever it is the same thing almost)touched the feet of adharmi.How can adharmi be embraced by Indra,how can adharmi go to highest aboard of Lord Vishnu without dying(Yudhi never DIED as we call it)or with dying even,How can Adharmi answer the most complicated questions of Dharm,Yudhi was an incarnation of Dharm himself and so was called Dharmraj.OK SO EVERY ONE BLAMES HIM INDIRECTLY FOR VASTRAHARAN RIGHT?????/INFACT IT IS LORD KRISHNA WHO TOLD DHARMA TO PROTECT DRAUPADI'S SELF RESPECT,THAT NEVER ENDING CLOTH WAS ACTUALLY DHARMA,IT IS BELIEVED THAT LORD KRISHNA TOOK ALL THE DHARMA OF YUDHISHTHIR AND VIDUR TO CREATE THIS CLOTH.And the half truth,he never wanted to tell half truth but full truth,he did this because Lord Krishna asked him to do it.And guru Dron went to Yudhishthir for confirmation ,HE WENT TO A ADHARMI FOR CONFIRMATION😲?

These are my opinions I do not offend anybody😊

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@Hot_Indo_Chilly

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Posted: 11 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: Archanapajit
I dont think he deserved heaven..Rest all of them fell on the way due to silly reasons.Droupathy for loving Arjun little bit more than others...For such a simple reason she wasnt able to reach heaven.But still the person who did bet on her,who caused her insult reached heaven...Wow!! After doing fatal mistakes, What is the point in regreting!!

I heard about the story of a Rishi who went to hell for telling the truth to a grup of theves which in turn caused the death of some innocent men.If that was the case ,Yudhishthir 's one lie caused the death of his Guru..He deserved hell for sure..

Seriously after making all the gravest mistakes what's the point of regretting. He failed his pati dhgarm so there should have not been any heavan for him. Personally, I feel that Draupadi should have married karn in the 1st place. He would have never staked her, instead cherish, respect and love her.

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Semanti Chakraborty

@DharmaPriyaa

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Posted: 11 years ago

#26

Superb posts by Janaki di, Medha & Devashree 👍🏼 Agree with you friends 😊 We kaliyug people are already sinners & have no power to judge a man to whom Lord Krishna Himself said, 'Tasmad prabhaabadasi Dharmaraja' (you are the real Dharmaraja). If anyone thinks that he/she is more intelligent that Lord then I will be silent, but as a devotee of Krishna I can never disrespect that person who was chosen by Lord as the ruler of Dwapar yug (as He chose Vibhishan in Treta).

Also who says that he did not repent in exile, are requested to read the Van parva again with a calm mind, I think they will understand both Yudhishthir's pain & penance. And, he never forced Draupadi to marry 5 men, please read that part carefully before blaming him with such words!

I always feel pain for Yudhishthir. We are very, very little to understand what he was! It's our fault that we can't understand his Dharma. But we can't realize our mistake & always blame that noble person who never blamed anybody in his life, not even his enemies! Is there anything to learn from his character? If yes, then let's absorb it within us to make ourselves better, & if not, then I pray to Lord to come again, otherwise this universe is going to be worst. We need Lord's appearance to be convinced which is good & which is bad.

Last but not the least, I want to say one thing. If you think Spiritually, you will understand why Yudhishthir did not die at the end & reached Heaven with human body. He was Dharma himself, the great sage Vyasa wanted to show & teach us that Dharma can never die. If Dharma dies then this universe will be destroyed. So Dharma must exist till the end of journey & finally will be welcomed by God at His Abode, Vaikuntha.

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Devashree

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Posted: 11 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: vitisha
Yudhishthir is 1 of the biggest reasons for draupadi's miseries. He was the one who forced all 5 pandavas to marry draupadi. Bheem had opposed it strongly but yudhishthir didnt listen. He was the one because of whom draupadi got the stauts as "paach pati waali".

When did Bhim oppose the sharing of Panchali? I have read it in none of the versions.

I shared what I have heard and read. Those sources can be wrong and so can I also be wrong. Feel free to correct me

Please read from here, this KGM translation of Vyas MB freely available online.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01193.htm

The reason Yudhisthir gives justifications why it could be done, because he realizes that all the brothers have developed strong attraction for Panchali. Even Bhim. He knows if she gets married to only one of them, it will create discontent amongst the brothers.

There you go.!!! So you are yourself stating that all pandavas had the desire for draupadi and if only arjun got her , then others would had felt discontented. How do you justify and glorify this action of pandavas ? Two jeths (for whom draupadi was like their daughter and duaghter in law) and two devars( for whom draupadi was like their mother because badi bhabhi maa samaan hoti hai) desiring for her is supposed to be dharma ? If your brother gets a beautiful wife then should you be jealous of him ?
Atleast kauravas were far better since they didnt eye their own brother's wives and develop desires for them.

Who is glorifying the Pandavas for this? I have seen no one say they did great by marrying Panchali together. But you cannot term it as Adharma because you feel its wrong. We never see Draupadi cursing her fate because she had to marry five brothers. No where during all of this do we see she is distressed because of this fact. Then why is this being called Adharma. Yudhisthir was just justifying why it was socially acceptable for a woman to marry more than one man and he gave two examples. They all-Drupad, Draupadi, Pandavas, Kunti- accepted this because the boon was from Lord Shiva as Vyas had explained to them.

And Vyasa had already told them that Draupadi has been given boon by Shiva that she will have 5 husbands in this life.

People say that he did he prayashchit by going to exile. My views strongly differ.
Prayashchit happens when you purposely and deliberately choose the hard path even when there is a comfortable path lying in front of view. Yudhishthir didnt take the path of exile on his own. He was forced into it and he as it is had no option.
If kauravas would had offered him indraprastha at the end of dice game and then if he rejected the kingdom and decided to go on exile , then that would be true prayashchit.
Prayashchit doesnt happen if you take up a hard path because thats the only option in front of you. Prayashchit happens when there are 2 paths available and then you consciously choose the difficult one.

Prayaschit is not only about choosing the path. Prayaschit is how you feel after you have done mistake. He was forced to go to Vanvaas, but he wasnt forced to do Tapashya. He did it all through the Vanvaas years. He did Pilgrimage to atone for his sins. Despite everything that happened, he still saved his brothers and wives from Gandharvas. Bhim and Draupadi used to ask him again and again to seek revenge. He wanted to spend thos years doing Tapasya and atoning for his sins. RamKiJanaki has explained it better in her post.

See he asking the yaksha to save nakul instead of asking for bheem or arjun is extremely commendable and I totally salute him for that. But for this 1 extremely good act which he did , we cannot overlook the dozens of other blunders

Again, you are mis-interpreting whatever I wrote. Just the Yaksha event was not his atonement. It was the whole Vanvaas. He felt guilty throughout and repented for it.

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Semanti Chakraborty

@DharmaPriyaa

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Posted: 11 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: vitisha
Yudhishthir is 1 of the biggest reasons for draupadi's miseries. He was the one who forced all 5 pandavas to marry draupadi. Bheem had opposed it strongly but yudhishthir didnt listen. He was the one because of whom draupadi got the stauts as "paach pati waali".

When did Bhim oppose the sharing of Panchali? I have read it in none of the versions.

I shared what I have heard and read. Those sources can be wrong and so can I also be wrong. Feel free to correct me

The reason Yudhisthir gives justifications why it could be done, because he realizes that all the brothers have developed strong attraction for Panchali. Even Bhim. He knows if she gets married to only one of them, it will create discontent amongst the brothers.

There you go.!!! So you are yourself stating that all pandavas had the desire for draupadi and if only arjun got her , then others would had felt discontented. How do you justify and glorify this action of pandavas ? Two jeths (for whom draupadi was like their daughter and duaghter in law) and two devars( for whom draupadi was like their mother because badi bhabhi maa samaan hoti hai) desiring for her is supposed to be dharma ? If your brother gets a beautiful wife then should you be jealous of him ?
Atleast kauravas were far better since they didnt eye their own brother's wives and develop desires for them.

And Vyasa had already told them that Draupadi has been given boon by Shiva that she will have 5 husbands in this life.

vitisha:

Yes it's indeed a sin to feeling attracted towards brother's wife. You are right in your POV. But let me tell you that only for the Pandavas it was not a sin, because great sage Vyasa already told them much before that 'Princess of Panchal will be wife of all of you', so was he a sinner? Pandavas felt love towards Draupadi for this forecast by Vyasa. There is another reason too. Please remember that Draupadi was a ayonijaa, not born from mother's womb, she appeared from yajna fire, this type of Soul must has the memory of previous birth. she knew that Lord Shiva gave her boon of 5 husbands & so she also fell in love with all 5. If she did not want to marry all of them then why did she not protest? What do you think? the fire-lady who could easily reject Karna in a public place, why did she not protest against Yudhishthir's final utterings which led her to marry 5? Epic says that she was looking at all, surely she became happy to get all of them, as you will never see her unhappy just after this incident. When Dhrishtadyumna saw his sister, he found her lying near the feet of Pandavas & she was very happy indeed! Also, Spiritually reading MB will tell you that it's very natural for all Pandavas to feel love towards Draupadi as it was a last birth connection. God's boon & previous karma can never be avoided even if you have taken a new body & forgot your last birth. God will make a situation that will bring the last birth's deeds in front of you. Pandavas & Draupadi were connected to each other by Lord Shiva's boon. Nobody could change them as this marriage was destined from their last birth & accepted by God.

Edited by Urmila11 - 11 years ago

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@DrModel

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Posted: 11 years ago

#29

I just wish people would actually READ the Mahabharat and the Srimad Bhagwatam before forming random opinions and disagreeing with citations.

KMG may be 12 volumes long but there are other summarized editions that are heavily referenced from KMG

There is also an abridged version of the Srimad Bhagwatam

Even the Gita would help. "

Mrityunjay and Ajaya are NOT mahabharat.

Just saying!!!!!

P.S. this is a general viewpoint aka MY OPINION and is not intended to hurt any fan groups.

I reserve the right to my opinion and no amount of arguing on this subject will make me change it

Edited by DrModel - 11 years ago

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Medha.S

@Medha.S

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Posted: 11 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: DrModel
I just wish people would actually READ the Mahabharat and the Srimad Bhagwatam before forming random opinions and disagreeing with citations.

KMG may be 12 volumes long but there are other summarized editions that are heavily referenced from KMG

There is also an abridged version of the Srimad Bhagwatam
Even the Gita would help. "

Mrityunjay and Ajaya are NOT mahabharat.

Just saying!!!!!

P.S. this is a general viewpoint aka MY OPINION and is not intended to hurt any fan groups.

I reserve the right to my opinion and no amount of arguing on this subject will make me change it

In Srimad Bhagwatam, Yudhishtira is treated with even more respect than in MB.

Every discussion of Dharma includes him. Some of the chapters all about Yudhishtira and other Pandavs are his brothers.

It wont go down peoples throat here 🤣