'Mahabharat- Different Versions -Perspectives' - Page 51

Originally posted by: bheegi

I know we've criticized SP for its Karna-Arjun distortions but here is what the Indonesian MB states: Indonesian MB is a big time Kaju fan..

The most poignant moment in the Indonesian version is the Karna-Arjuna meeting in the eve of Karna's first day as the Kaurava army's commander in chief. Arjuna secretly visits him. He has the most difficult moment in his life. Arjuna suddenly stands in front of him, kneels and greets him respectfully and says clearly, 'Please accept my sincere respects and Pandava's respect to you.' Karna is deeply moved. His eyes are filled with tears. Arjuna proposes to make him the emperor of Hastinapura and hopes that he will join them. They speak emotionally with each other and express love for each other. Finally they decide to adhere by their Kshatriya duties and fight in next day's battle. Then they embrace each other again without a word and Arjuna leaves with Karna's permission.

Next day after Karna kills Ghatothkacha with his Kunto-arrow; Karna's carriage is torn to pieces, hit by Ghatothkacha's body falling from the sky. He is thrown away. With no carriage he meets Arjuna directly. He is aware that Arjuna has several heirlooms, which should kill him. But he would be happy to be killed by a mighty, powerful brother. He is happy that his brothers would be glorious rulers in Hastinapur. Finally Arjuna releases his Pasupati arrow piercing Karna through the neck. In the Indian version Karna is beheaded. Karna's death is mourned deeply by both sides. The Pandava family performs Karna's funeral rites with full honour. In the Indian version this happens at the end of the war after Kunti reveals Karnas' identity to the Pandavas.

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no amrita, thats a different version as Arjun in that version already knows that Karna is his brother. He goes to meet Karna just a day before he dies.. See the first para which Bheegi has posted😊

Originally posted by: riti4u

no amrita, thats a different version as Arjun in that version already knows that Karna is his brother. He goes to meet Karna just a day before he dies.. See the first para which Bheegi has posted😊

Originally posted by: bheegi

I know we've criticized SP for its Karna-Arjun distortions but here is what the Indonesian MB states: Indonesian MB is a big time Kaju fan..

The most poignant moment in the Indonesian version is the Karna-Arjuna meeting in the eve of Karna's first day as the Kaurava army's commander in chief. Arjuna secretly visits him. He has the most difficult moment in his life. Arjuna suddenly stands in front of him, kneels and greets him respectfully and says clearly, 'Please accept my sincere respects and Pandava's respect to you.' Karna is deeply moved. His eyes are filled with tears. Arjuna proposes to make him the emperor of Hastinapura and hopes that he will join them. They speak emotionally with each other and express love for each other. Finally they decide to adhere by their Kshatriya duties and fight in next day's battle. Then they embrace each other again without a word and Arjuna leaves with Karna's permission.

Next day after Karna kills Ghatothkacha with his Kunto-arrow; Karna's carriage is torn to pieces, hit by Ghatothkacha's body falling from the sky. He is thrown away. With no carriage he meets Arjuna directly. He is aware that Arjuna has several heirlooms, which should kill him. But he would be happy to be killed by a mighty, powerful brother. He is happy that his brothers would be glorious rulers in Hastinapur. Finally Arjuna releases his Pasupati arrow piercing Karna through the neck. In the Indian version Karna is beheaded. Karna's death is mourned deeply by both sides. The Pandava family performs Karna's funeral rites with full honour. In the Indian version this happens at the end of the war after Kunti reveals Karnas' identity to the Pandavas.

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Originally posted by: abhijitbasu

Yes, I am the author of MMM. Thank you for the nice words. Would recommend for you my other book, Prophets, Poets and Philosopher-Kings too.

Originally posted by: bheegi

I know we've criticized SP for its Karna-Arjun distortions but here is what the Indonesian MB states: Indonesian MB is abig time Kaju fan..

<font color="#3300cc">The most poignant moment in the Indonesian version is the Karna-Arjuna meeting in the eve of Karna's first day as the Kaurava army's commander in chief. Arjuna secretly visits him. He has the most difficult moment in his life. Arjuna suddenly stands in front of him, kneels and greets him respectfully and says clearly, 'Please accept my sincere respects and Pandava's respect to you.' Karna is deeply moved. His eyes are filled with tears. Arjuna proposes to make him the emperor of Hastinapura and hopes that he will join them. They speak emotionally with each other and express love for each other. Finally they decide to adhere by their Kshatriya duties and fight in next day's battle. Then they embrace each other again without a word and Arjuna leaves with Karna's permission.</font>

<font color="#3300cc">Next day after Karna kills Ghatothkacha with his Kunto-arrow; Karna's carriage is torn to pieces, hit by Ghatothkacha's body falling from the sky. He is thrown away. With no carriage he meets Arjuna directly. He is aware that Arjuna has several heirlooms, which should kill him. But he would be happy to be killed by a mighty, powerful brother. He is happy that his brothers would be glorious rulers in Hastinapur. Finally Arjuna releases his Pasupati arrow piercing Karna through the neck. In the Indian version Karna is beheaded. Karna's death is mourned deeply by both sides. The Pandava family performs Karna's funeral rites with full honour. In the Indian version this happens at the end of the war after Kunti reveals Karnas' identity to the Pandavas.</font>

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Interesting, but the tweaking seems to be a later accretion. I'm not sure if this was the Javanese version consulted by Sukthankar et al in making the 'Pune' Critical Edition.

@abhijitbasu- first of all welcome to the forum. Great to see renowned author here😊.

Originally posted by: riti4u

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">@abhijitbasu- first of all welcome to the forum. Great to see renowned author here😊.

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Just out of curiousity , did Pune CE Edition that you are talking about takes into account all other versions outside India as well?

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Thanks. One feels cerebrally stimulated in such a forum of serious readers. As to your second point, my notes (also incorporated in Marvels & Mysteries...) mention that a Nepali and a Javanese version, apart from some European Library versions of old Indian manuscripts), were consulted in making the CE. However, the basic guide (other than the main CE volumes with Appendices), for readers would be Sukthankar's introductory Prolegomena, available in this link: http://sanskritdocuments.org/mirrors/mahabharata/Suk933__Sukthankar_ProlegomenaMBh1.txt
Regards,
Abhijit Basu

@AbhijitBasu- Thanks for information and link too . It would be interesting read.😊Didnt know about European library too having old Indian Manuscripts.