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Posted: 11 years ago
Interesting article found on FB:

OPEN YOUR EYES

There are hidden treasures in every single line of the Gita.

The root cause of man's downfall is revealed in the first line. The first line, which we often do not even notice.

In the very opening verse of the Gita, we find Dhritarashtra, the blind patriarch of the Kuru clan, asking this question to his wise companion Sanjaya:

"Tell me, O Sanjaya, what the people of my own party and those of Pandu, who are assembled at Kurukshetra resolved upon war, have been doing." (Gita, I)

In this first verse itself, the philosophy of life of the man of the world is summed up.

There is a deep-rooted notion that only a close group of MY kith and kin, MY friends and relations, MY servants and MY acquaintances, only those who share MY views, MY values and support me in MY good and evil undertakings are "mine".

The rest, however great and mighty, however right and justified in their stand, are classed as "not mine" or "others". Not only are they "others", they are "wrong". Even - even if it happens to be God.

The result of such an attitude was the slaughter of the Kurus and the destruction of many a great warrior of that time in the most horrible battle between the two clans.

But what else can we expect from blind Dhritarashtra whose life centered on self- pity, suspicion and bitterness? What else can we expect from Duryodhan whose father transferred his negativity onto him? What else can happen to a kingdom run by one whose ambition was founded in selfishness and evil mindedness?

Dhritarashtra had loving wisdom available at his beck and call - in the form of a devoted brother. But he did not care for it.

God spoke to him, cajoled him, pleaded with him, and even gave him cosmic vision. But he did not care for it.

He chose to remain - in every sense of the word - blind.

He lacked the knowledge of the true nature of man.

He refused to see the true purpose of life.

And look what happened!

If only we could learn from him, and open our inner eyes. If only we can remove the notion of "I" and "Mine" and see the world as "We" and "Ours".

This is the message the Gita begins with.





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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: shindes

I read a preview of the same book which mentioned how the 'noble' Duryodhan did not hit Dronacharya's bird-eye target out of 'compassion for the bird.'
I fell off in laughter, knowing fully well that the bird in question was a 'wooden bird.' in MB.
I wondered if the author will also have 'noble Duryodhan' claiming 'compassion for the fish' as an excuse for his failure at Draupadi's swayamwar???
The preview however convinced me to stay miles away from the book. Unless it is for the unexpected & unintended humor as in the preview.


Actually I found the book quite engaging. If you are ok with alternative mythology, then I think it can keep you hooked. Except for one or two unnecessary exaggerations here and there the characters are quite believable.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Brahmastra :
Brahmstra was a weapon created by Brahma.
FEATURES :
It is sometimes known as the Brahma Astra ( Astra means 'weapon'). As described in a number of the Puranas, it was considered the deadliest weapon. It was said that when the Brahmastra was discharged, there was neither a counterattack nor a defense that could stop it except by Brahmadanda , a stick also created by Brahma.
However some revised versions of the Mahabharata point out that during the Kurukshetra war, Karna was able to neutralize it when it was discharged by Arjuna.
The Brahmastra never missed its mark and had to be used with very specific intent against an individual enemy or army, as the target would face complete annihilation. It was believed to be obtained by meditating on the Lord Brahma; it could only be used once in a day. The user would have to display immense amounts of mental concentration.
According to ancient Sanskrit writings, the Brahmastra is invoked by a key phrase or invocation that is bestowed upon the user when given this weapon.
Through this invocation the user can call upon the weapon and use it via a medium against his adversary.
Since Brahma is considered the Creator in Sanatana Dharma, it is believed by Hindus that Brahmastra was created by him for the purpose of upholding Dharma and Satya , to be used by anyone who wished to destroy an enemy who would also happen to be a part of his (Brahma's) creation.
The target, when hit by Brahmastra, would be utterly destroyed.
Brahma had created a weapon even more powerful than the Brahmastra, called the Brahmashira . The Brahmashira was never used in war, as it had four times more power than the Brahmastra, i.e.Fourth power square, as the name suggests, since Brahma has Four Heads.
Only Bhishma , Arjuna ,Ashwatthama, Drona and Karna possessed the knowledge to summon the Brahmashira. However,Ashwatthama possessed the knowledge only to summon and not retract it.

CAUSES :
The weapon was also believed to cause severe environmental damage.The land where the weapon was
used became barren and all life in and around that area ceased to exist, as both men and women became infertile.
There was also a severe decrease in rainfall with the land developing cracks, like in a drought.
The Brahmastra is mentioned in the epics and vedas as a weapon of last resort and was never to be used in combat.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sukanya_Datta

Brahmastra :
Brahmstra was a weapon created by Brahma.
FEATURES :
It is sometimes known as the Brahma Astra ( Astra means 'weapon'). As described in a number of the Puranas, it was considered the deadliest weapon. It was said that when the Brahmastra was discharged, there was neither a counterattack nor a defense that could stop it except by Brahmadanda , a stick also created by Brahma.
However some revised versions of the Mahabharata point out that during the Kurukshetra war, Karna was able to neutralize it when it was discharged by Arjuna.
The Brahmastra never missed its mark and had to be used with very specific intent against an individual enemy or army, as the target would face complete annihilation. It was believed to be obtained by meditating on the Lord Brahma; it could only be used once in a day. The user would have to display immense amounts of mental concentration.
According to ancient Sanskrit writings, the Brahmastra is invoked by a key phrase or invocation that is bestowed upon the user when given this weapon.
Through this invocation the user can call upon the weapon and use it via a medium against his adversary.
Since Brahma is considered the Creator in Sanatana Dharma, it is believed by Hindus that Brahmastra was created by him for the purpose of upholding Dharma and Satya , to be used by anyone who wished to destroy an enemy who would also happen to be a part of his (Brahma's) creation.
The target, when hit by Brahmastra, would be utterly destroyed.
Brahma had created a weapon even more powerful than the Brahmastra, called the Brahmashira . The Brahmashira was never used in war, as it had four times more power than the Brahmastra, i.e.Fourth power square, as the name suggests, since Brahma has Four Heads.
Only Bhishma , Arjuna ,Ashwatthama, Drona and Karna possessed the knowledge to summon the Brahmashira. However,Ashwatthama possessed the knowledge only to summon and not retract it.

CAUSES :
The weapon was also believed to cause severe environmental damage.The land where the weapon was
used became barren and all life in and around that area ceased to exist, as both men and women became infertile.
There was also a severe decrease in rainfall with the land developing cracks, like in a drought.
The Brahmastra is mentioned in the epics and vedas as a weapon of last resort and was never to be used in combat.

Source: Link




@bold if I am not wrong,then once in the Kurukshetra,Arjuna and Ashwatthama both fired Brahmashira on each other. Then,Ved Vyasa himself appeared to order them to take back the weapon . Arjuna took it off but Ashwi did not know to take it back. So,he whether intentionally/unintentionally, moved it to the womb of all Kuru women. Then, Krishna saved Uttara's womb. Isn't it?😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
Here is a citation from CE on the final stages of Karna-Arjun war. This is the turning point of the war. Till then, Karna was defending every weapon Arjun had fired at him..
It was wonderful. Using his weapons, Radheya countered all of Savyasachi's weapons. At that time, his valour seemed to be greater than that of Partha. Krishna saw that Arjuna was afflicted because of Karna's weapons. He said, O Partha! Go closer and strike him with the best weapons.' Dhananjaya invoked an arrow with divine mantras. It was like a fire and the poison of a serpent. It was made completely out of iron. Kiriti united this with roudrastra and wished to shoot it. But, in that great battle, the earth swallowed up one of the wheels of Radheya's chariot. "Radheya wept in rage. He told Arjuna, O Pandava! Wait for an instant. You can see that because of destiny, my central wheel 796 has got submerged. O Partha! Abandon the thought 797 that only befits a coward. O Arjuna! One should not shoot a weapon at one with dishevelled hair, at one who doesn't wish to fight, at a brahmana, at someone who has joined his hands in salutation, at one who has sought refuge, at one who has cast aside his weapons, at someone who faces a calamity, at someone who doesn't have arrows, at a person whose armor has been destroyed, or at a person whose weapons have been shattered and broken. Brave ones do not strike at such people, nor do kings and lords of the earth. O Kounteya! You are brave. Wait for a short while. O Dhananjaya! Let me extricate the wheel from the ground. You are stationed on your chariot. You should not kill me when I am on the ground. O Pandaveya! You and Vasudeva are not frightened of me. You are a kshatriya and you are the extender of a great lineage. O Pandava! Remember the instructions of dharma and wait for a short while.'"


Debroy, Bibek (2013-04-15). Mahabharata: Volume 7 (p. 300). Penguin Books Ltd. Kindle Edition.
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Posted: 11 years ago
The Story of Karna - The Doomed Hero:

The Kauravas and Pandavas learned the art of using weapons first from Kripacharya and then from Dronacharya. When they graduated from the school of Dronacharya, a huge event was organized for all the people of Hastinapur including the masses living in the villages and the royals of the Palace. Dhritarashtra, Gandhari, Bhishma, Kunti, Vidura, Kripacharya and Dronacharya and others were present for the event to display the skills of the princes.

The Kauravas were good but the Pandavas excelled. The large enthusiastic crowd was lost in wonder and admiration at Arjuna's superhuman skills with his bow and arrows. Duryodhana's barometer of rage, envy and jealousy was steadily climbing. By the time the sun was ready to set, Duryodhana was fuming with jealousy at all the admiration Arjuna was getting. Just then there came a loud compelling sound like that of thunder made by clashing weapons from the main entrance to the arena. From the cloud of dust there emerged, a young man wearing shining armor and earrings that shone like bright sun. He came face to face with Arjuna with his whole body expressing a challenge to Arjuna. Instinctively, the rest of the Pandavas gathered around Arjuna. Little did they know the irony of fate that they were standing in challenge in front of the eldest son of Kunti and God Sun. It was none other than Karna.

Karna gave a careless bow and salutations towards Kripacharya and Dronacharya and then towards the royalty. With a voice like rumbling thunder, he addressed Arjuna, "Arjuna, I can show greater skills at archery than you have." With careless ease Karna repeated all the feats of Arjuna. Duryodhana was overjoyed at the appearance of this unexpected good fortune. He embraced Karna with all the love of a long lost brother, "Who ever you are, fortune has sent you to me. Me and my hundred brothers are at your command."

While love flooded Duryodhana's heart, blazing wrath filled in Arjuna, as he felt affronted. He stood stately over Karna and exclaimed, "Who ever you are, you shall be slain by me and go to hell for intruding uninvited."

Karna gave a mirthless laugh, "This arena is not open just for you Arjuna. What is the use of showing off skills when they cannot be compared with any one else's. Talk is the weapon of the weak, send arrows instead of words."

Arjuna hastily bowed to his teachers and then embraced his brothers, as he prepared himself to the challenge. Karna took leave of the Kauravas and stood in front of Arjuna in combat. Lord Indra, the god of the thunderclouds and Arjuna's father, and the Sun god came at once in the sky to encourage their progeny.

Meanwhile, the moment Karna entered the arena, Kunti recognized him as her first born. As Arjuna and Karna became ready for the combat Kunti fainted. When she regained her consciousness, she was stupefied in anguish and was at a loss. She confided in Vidura the true identity of Karna and sought to stop this confrontation.

Kripacharya, who was well versed in the rules of the single combat, came over as the referee. Before beginning the combat he addressed Karna, "Youth, what is your name and what is your lineage? We cannot go forward without knowing this information. Arjuna is a prince and cannot engage in single combats with unknown adventurers" At the mention of lineage, Karna bowed down his head, downcast, like a lotus in rain, for all his life he was thwarted in his attempts for being a charioteer's son. He braced himself for the insults to follow.

Duryodhana came to his rescue,"We all know this youth matches Arjuna in skills. If the combat cannot take place merely because he is not a prince, that can be remedied easily. I proclaim from hence forth, this youth is King of Anga. I shall perform all the rites and rituals necessary to give him sovereignty over the kingdom of Anga."

It seemed that a combat between the youthful warriors was inevitable and was about to commence when the Charioteer Adhirath entered the arena. He was the foster father of Karna and was now shaking with fear at the impudence of his son to challenge the royal prince. As soon as Karna saw Adhirath, he bowed his head and gave the salutations to his father.

Bheema jeered at Karna, "King of Anga indeed, you are but a son of a charioteer. You don't need a royal insignia you need a whip to drive the horses or may be a brush to clean the horses. You are fit to rule the stables not the kingdom of Anga." Karna's lips trembled in anguish at this outrageous speech. Before Karna could speak anything, Duryodhana spoke indignantly, "Such speech is unworthy of you Vrikodara. Valor makes Kshatriyas, Kshatriyas do not make valor. The exercise of tracing one's lineage is meaningless. I can give you hundreds of instances of great men of humble births. Why awkward questions may be asked about your own origin. Look at Karna, his armor, his earrings, his build, confidence and the way he carries himself. I am certain there is a certain mystery behind him. Lion is not born to antelopes.Unworthy of ruling Anga did you say, I contest that he is worthy of ruling this whole world." Duryodhana whisked Karna in his chariot and drove away from the arena.

The sun set and a confrontation between the two sons of Kunti Karna and Arjun was avoided for a day.

Karna wanted nothing more than a show down with Arjuna and win. This desire was fueled even more by Duryodhana. Karna felt a certain loyalty towards Duryodhana after the unexpected and affectionate display of friendship by Duryodhana. He wanted to learn about the all powerful "Brahmastra", the equivalent of today's nuclear bomb. He went to Parsurama to learn about it. Parsurama was known for his dislike of the Kings and the warriors. Karna hid his identity as a charioteer's son because the world always ridiculed his ambition for the best warrior because of his parentage. He learned the art from Parsurama and Parsurama in turn was very pleased with his disciple. Indra in heaven knew Karna had learned the Brahmastra only to use it on Arjuna.

One day, Parsurama was sleeping with his head on Karna's lap. Indra took the form of a wasp and started to drill a hole in Karna's thigh. Karna tried to shoo ti away but the wasp was determined. Karna could not move without waking up his guru. As the wasp drilled the hole and warm blood started to trickle,it fell on Parsurama and he woke up. He saw what had happened. Parsurama was furious, "Karna you no Brahmin boy, only Kshatriya can bear the pain you are bearing. You have tricked me and learned the knowledge by deceit. I curse you that when you need it the most, you will nor be able to remember anything you have learned from me." Karna stood aghast, he pleaded Parsurama, "I am not a Brahmin, but I am not a Kshatriya either. I am a sutaputra (charioteer's son). I had to lie because all my life I was denied education because of my lineage."

Parsurama's anger subsided a little bit after knowing that he was not a Kshatruya. He liked Karna too, "Son, I cannot take back my curse, and I have cursed you rather harsh. In return, I will give you my Vijaya bow. Take it and go back home."

Karna took the bow and started back home. On the way, he decided to test the new bow. He stretched an arrow on it and carelessly without aiming at any particular target, he shot the arrow. The arrow stuck a cow and killed it. The owner of the cow was furious at Karna's callousness. "You have killed a cow that did not threaten you, you were displaying your skills on someone who had no weapon. You too shall be killed defenseless, when you have put down your weapons."

These fatal curses set the stage for Karna's death in the Mahabharata war. He always remained a faithful friend to Duryodhana. He is the tragic hero, a gifted, righteous and a brave hero, known especially for his generosity. He fought impossible odds all his life and died with courage, valor and honor. He is also an example of misplaced loyalty that doomed him.


Source: http://www.india-intro.com/religion/mahabharat.html

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Posted: 11 years ago

Is this Abhijit Basu, the author?

Welcome sir...loved the way you wrote this book😊
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I know we've criticized SP for its Karna-Arjun distortions but here is what the Indonesian MB states: Indonesian MB is a big time Kaju fan..

The most poignant moment in the Indonesian version is the Karna-Arjuna meeting in the eve of Karna's first day as the Kaurava army's commander in chief. Arjuna secretly visits him. He has the most difficult moment in his life. Arjuna suddenly stands in front of him, kneels and greets him respectfully and says clearly, 'Please accept my sincere respects and Pandava's respect to you.' Karna is deeply moved. His eyes are filled with tears. Arjuna proposes to make him the emperor of Hastinapura and hopes that he will join them. They speak emotionally with each other and express love for each other. Finally they decide to adhere by their Kshatriya duties and fight in next day's battle. Then they embrace each other again without a word and Arjuna leaves with Karna's permission.

Next day after Karna kills Ghatothkacha with his Kunto-arrow; Karna's carriage is torn to pieces, hit by Ghatothkacha's body falling from the sky. He is thrown away. With no carriage he meets Arjuna directly. He is aware that Arjuna has several heirlooms, which should kill him. But he would be happy to be killed by a mighty, powerful brother. He is happy that his brothers would be glorious rulers in Hastinapur. Finally Arjuna releases his Pasupati arrow piercing Karna through the neck. In the Indian version Karna is beheaded. Karna's death is mourned deeply by both sides. The Pandava family performs Karna's funeral rites with full honour. In the Indian version this happens at the end of the war after Kunti reveals Karnas' identity to the Pandavas.

- See more at: http://www.boloji.com/index.cfm?md=Content&sd=Articles&ArticleID=8527#sthash.e6mRtnOo.dpuf
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: bheegi



<font color="#3300cc">Is this Abhijit Basu, the author?</font>

<font color="#3300cc">Welcome sir...loved the way you wrote this book😊</font>


Yes, I am the author of MMM. Thank you for the nice words. Would recommend for you my other book, Prophets, Poets and Philosopher-Kings too.
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Originally posted by: abhijitbasu




Yes, I am the author of MMM. Thank you for the nice words. Would recommend for you my other book, Prophets, Poets and Philosopher-Kings too.



Wow! It is nice to meet you here on this forum. I have read both the books and loved them! 😊 After reading them from the library, I actually bought both because these are the kind of books I love to read again and again from time to time.

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