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Posted: 11 years ago
#31
@Manoj, Yep, I had expectations of such a high standard after seeing the promos. They completely swept me away.. Even after the first few distortions, I didn't mind so much as I used to remember the promos and think that they will become better later.. however that later never came..
The initial cost was 100 cores with another 20 for the nation-wide promos..
Then I heard that each episode making costs around 60 lakhs since they were traveling to such exotic locations in Himalayas etc. for shooting..
All these really increased my expectation level..
And I really loved everything they showed till the young Pandavas and even the fictitious Arjun-Krishna track...
But this recent Lakshyagriha track is totally becoming ridiculous..
Am losing interest in the show..


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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: -Shruti

As per the original text -

- Devavrata was 16 when Ganga returned him to Shantanu.

- He was the crown prince already when Satyavati entered.

- The conditions were put forward by Dashraj.

- Vichi died after ruling for seven years.

- Satyavati never treated Vidur as inferior, he was equally important.

- Dhrit never treated Vidur in such a weird way. He respected him and all the elder people.

- Karna wasn't grown up to welcome Kunti.

- Kunti never really cared about Karna.

- Karna wasn't named Karna by his parents.

- Satyavati never went to look for Pandu.

- She never had a confrontation with Ganga.

- Lord Shiva didn't stop the duel between Bheeshma and Parashurama.

- Vidura understood the Lakshagraha plot by himself...not because Karna's expressions hinted so.

- Bheeshma never knew about the Lakshagraha.

- Subhadra met Arjuna during his exile.

- Ashwatthama wasn't a villain.

- He never went to meet Shakuni.

- Bhima returned on the 8th day after Duryo poisoned him.

- Shakuni wasn't involved in that plot.

- Krishna and Kalyavan's entries were distorted too.

- Arjun had nothing to do with Rukmini haran.

- He became Brihannala during the Agyaat vaas, due to a curse.

- Yudhi and Bhima were the heroes of Lakshagraha.

- Pandavas lived there for 1 year.

- Fire was set by Bhima and all escaped through the tunnel constructed by a miner appointed by Vidura.

- There was no duel in the Rangbhoomi except the friendly one between Duryo and Bhima, as both were mace fighters. Ashwatthama separated them as it was getting fierce.


These are just a few..

ya u r right .. Ab kya bolenge woh starplus waley ? Apna hi new star version of Mahabharat bana k dikhaye jaa rahe hain ...
Edited by simplysappy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Sukanya_Datta

@Manoj, Yep, I had expectations of such a high standard after seeing the promos. They completely swept me away.. Even after the first few distortions, I didn't mind so much as I used to remember the promos and think that they will become better later.. however that later never came..
The initial cost was 100 cores with another 20 for the nation-wide promos..
Then I heard that each episode making costs around 60 lakhs since they were traveling to such exotic locations in Himalayas etc. for shooting..
All these really increased my expectation level..
And I really loved everything they showed till the young Pandavas and even the fictitious Arjun-Krishna track...
But this recent Lakshyagriha track is totally becoming ridiculous..
Am losing interest in the show..




I disliked it at first that they cut out Ganga and Shantanu and then cut out Niyog, etc.

However it was alright until Pandavs grew up. Once Pandavs grew up it has been one thing after another. I haven't enjoyed watching any of it since they grew up.

The Pratyogita lots of rubbish and fiction there in terms of them battling each other and Dhuryodhan winning.
The crowning of Yudhistir again lots of rubbish and fiction there in terms of the elders conselled and picked Yudi.
Then the whole Subhadhra and Arjun track we know to be rubbish and fiction.
The attack on Panchal rubbish and fiction with the Chakravyuh and five Drupads.
Lakshagreh rubbish and fiction with the mouse and everything else I mentioned above.
Rukhmini haran and Brihannala, now that is just ridiculous.

Have they actually SHOWED anything that is true since the Pandavs grew up?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34
I have decided I am going to continue watching this drivel.

It is my ambition to make Mahabharat one day (I have even started writing episode plans). I am going to watch this to find out how to NOT Make Mahabharat.

But also use it to show how to do costumes and promos 😆
Edited by Manojie - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35
OK but that only justifies Karna's part. I agree that he didnt stop Duryodhan from doing wrong. But that was because he was a indebted to duri forever.

What about -ve Dhritarashtra and Ashwathama?
What about showing Arjun as the only hero among the Pandavas?
ps: Im not denying that he's the bravest but it doesnt mean others shown be shown as doormat characters
What about things like Subhadra love story? Did she really visit Hastinapur? Why is Subhadra portrayed to be all time going gaga over either Arjun or Krishna? And why is their love story shown like today's daily soaps?

These are just few,

Only justifying Karna's part doesnt justify everything.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: Rishi_

OK but that only justifies Karna's part. I agree that he didnt stop Duryodhan from doing wrong. But that was because he was a indebted to duri forever.

What about -ve Dhritarashtra and Ashwathama?
What about showing Arjun as the only hero among the Pandavas?
ps: Im not denying that he's the bravest but it doesnt mean others shown be shown as doormat characters
What about things like Subhadra love story? Did she really visit Hastinapur? Why is Subhadra portrayed to be all time going gaga over either Arjun or Krishna? And why is their love story shown like today's daily soaps?

These are just few,

Only justifying Karna's part doesnt justify everything.



Dhiritashra was negative.

He wasn't as naive as other versions made him out to be. Dhiritashtra knew about the plot at Varnavart and was even happy when he thought the Pandavs died in the fire.
Edited by Manojie - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: -Shruti

As per the original text -

- Devavrata was 16 when Ganga returned him to Shantanu.

- He was the crown prince already when Satyavati entered.

- The conditions were put forward by Dashraj.

- Vichi died after ruling for seven years.

- Satyavati never treated Vidur as inferior, he was equally important.

- Dhrit never treated Vidur in such a weird way. He respected him and all the elder people.

- Karna wasn't grown up to welcome Kunti.

- Kunti never really cared about Karna.

- Karna wasn't named Karna by his parents.

- Satyavati never went to look for Pandu.

- She never had a confrontation with Ganga.

- Lord Shiva didn't stop the duel between Bheeshma and Parashurama.

- Vidura understood the Lakshagraha plot by himself...not because Karna's expressions hinted so.

- Bheeshma never knew about the Lakshagraha.

- Subhadra met Arjuna during his exile.

- Ashwatthama wasn't a villain.

- He never went to meet Shakuni.

- Bhima returned on the 8th day after Duryo poisoned him.

- Shakuni wasn't involved in that plot.

- Krishna and Kalyavan's entries were distorted too.

- Arjun had nothing to do with Rukmini haran.

- He became Brihannala during the Agyaat vaas, due to a curse.

- Yudhi and Bhima were the heroes of Lakshagraha.

- Pandavas lived there for 1 year.

- Fire was set by Bhima and all escaped through the tunnel constructed by a miner appointed by Vidura.

- There was no duel in the Rangbhoomi except the friendly one between Duryo and Bhima, as both were mace fighters. Ashwatthama separated them as it was getting fierce.


These are just a few..



nicely pointed out. awesome.👏

DId you post this on FB page too? 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38
@Manoj, I simply don't understand this drastic change..
Did they had a change in Research team and writers...???
Till Pandavas childhood, though there still were some distortions but they not much... I actually liked them..
But recently, all these ridiculous and unnecessary laughs and repeatating dialogues and sometimes even non-existent ones are too much!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: Manojie



Dhiritashra was negative.

He wasn't as naive as other versions made him out to be. Dhiritashtra knew about the plot at Varnavart and was even happy when he thought the Pandavs died in the fire.


ya i know this but that has been distorted as well. 😆
Here its shown that he was unaware.

Instead he's shown naive disrespecting vidur etc. which may not be the case is what i meant to say.
Edited by Rishi_ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: Sukanya_Datta

@Manoj, I simply don't understand this drastic change..
Did they had a change in Research team and writers...???
Till Pandavas childhood, though there still were some distortions but they not much... I actually liked them..
But recently, all these ridiculous and unnecessary laughs and repeatating dialogues and sometimes even non-existent ones are too much!!



The fact Kunti said something as stupid as "THEN LET US DIE IN THE LAKSHAGREH" is something she would NEVER have said, because of her satyavachan.

This was the whole reason that Pandavs had to share Draupadi because without looking she told them to share her. 😡

I don't know why the drastic change! I too thought despite it being OTT and stupid at times (like Karna's jumping off the mountain entry, and other stuff, it was still good and watchable.) Since the Pandavs grew up it has been unbearable for me. I would stop watching if I wasn't taking notes for my own version I intend on making 😆

P.S. 😡 is at CVs not Kunti
Edited by Manojie - 11 years ago

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