Bheeshma and Karna: The last meeting! - Page 3

Karna never tried to rape draupadi, he did infact called her a vaishya because draupadi rejected him and insulted him in her swayamvar , parshurama always knew that karna was a kshatriya he had to give him the curse if he hadn't cursed karna he would have killed arjuna,bheeshma too ruined a womans life didn't he? , karna was blinded by the rage at that very Mmoment saying that only karna,s fault at swayamvar is unfair, though what he did was wrong

Originally posted by: rasyafan

In MB four people are considered to be the best drona,bheeshm,karna,arjun ,each had his boon (bhishma) or his curse ( karna ) , there was no fair fight in MB because bheeshma was invinicble because of his boon karna had his curses , It doesnt matter how powerful the enemy is bheeshma cannot be defeated, similiar way it doesnt matter how good and powerful karna was he had his curses which made him weak.

True the entire war was not fair, there was too much of both dharm and adharm on both sides. However,
If Bheeshm got his boons then it was becasue of his good deeds such as his father gave him the boon of Ichchha mritu and parshuram gave him the boon of being invincible or koi hara nahi sakta unhe and karn got his curses because of his lies and deceptions to Bhagwan Parshuram. Especially from Parshuram and from Draupadi for what he did to her.

Bheeshm got the curse from Amba even when he hurt Amba but it was unintentionally whereas Karn tried to rape Draupadi intentionally. In Front of the entire people full of raj sabha, in front of her elders, her husbands, he called her Vaishya.

But the end of both were same. They sided with Duryodhan knowing fully well that they were doing wrong but they were bound by obligations. Bheeshm was bound by his duty towards the Raj Singhasan and his city Hastinapur and his lineage and his promise to his father that he would always look after his legacy where as Karn was bound and obligated to Duryodhan because of his friendship and for making him anraj king.

There is a huge difference in both yet they suffered the same brutal demise and end of their lives.

Originally posted by: LuvMishalRaheja

aha ! 😉 😛

Waise I'm talking about the character right now, not the actor 😛😆

Bheeshma and Karna, these two characters always makes be so emotional😒.

Originally posted by: candidfrisky

No no no..KARNA never tried to "rape" Draupadi..please don't use such words ! Yes, by calling Draupadi a prostitute, he did a demonic deed but he NEVER raped Draupadi..that doesn't mean raping..In my POV, It was Dushyasan who actually raped her..

Actually, no one raped her not.
I understand what you feel Candid but do you remember last year that girl's rape on 16 December 2012.
4 men and one boy raped her but the youngest boy did what he did to her. I feel scared even now to say it in actual words 😭😭😭 which got her brutally, inhumanly killed. Tell me only the boy was responsible for her cruel death or all 5 were responsible???? Were they all not involved in the crime? Should they be punished separately on the basis of who raped her, who disrobed her, who inserted that iron rod inside her???? Who did what to her?????

They all were involved in that heinous crime.

Similarly, wasn't Karn involved too in the crime against Draupadi? No matter who disrobed her all 98 Kaurav's were involved since they all supported the one who actually disrobed and who actually called her Vaishya and who called her to him to sit on his Jangha, Thighs. But what about the ones who were witnessing the crime not one of them so called maharathis had the guts to get up and kill them with their divine weapons. Bheeshm, Dronacharya and Kripacharya All Maharathis and teachers of Dharm paalan and what about the king himself. Right in front of him a woman, his daughter in law is being raped and yet he keeps mum? Why did he not order his sainiks to capture all the 98 Kauravs and throw them inside his jail? Because they all were his sons prince of Hastinapur.

In the end, we all say justice taken place naturally with the demise of all the culprits. Karn, Kauravs, Bheeshm, Dronacharya, Dhritrashtra, Kunit, Gandhari. The latter three were burnt during forest fire even they met with the justice of their bad crimes.

Whether Karn disrobed Draupadi or not, he was involved all the way.

I think even if Karn never wanted to be involved, or never ever would have been there but at that time he became insane with rage against Draupadi, Arjun and whole samaj for what they did to him. Especailly Draupadi and samaj like Dronacharya and his jealousy towards Arjun.

Somehow, I don't think that Karn had even laalsa to become a king or was ambitious enough to get a rajya his main aim in life was to harao Arjun in Archery.

No matter how fine a human he was even I like them for their righteousness, their strength, their ironed will power, their intelligence their beauty, their maharathipan, everything good in them but I cannot deny their wrong doings it is clearly staring in my face it is right in front of my eyes clear cut.

I love Bheeshm, Arjun, Karn, Krishn, Draupadi, Satyavati, Bheem I even Like Duryodhan in Old MB he is the cutest of them all and the best best actor. 😆😆😆 I simply love his expressions.

But all did adharm in their life and when they moment come or when they were facing weakest point in their lives jisse un sabhi se chook ho gayee.

Sorry friends, I use a lot of hindi words in between. Actually watching shows in hindi, only hindi words comes in mind and english translation becomes difficult at that time. It takes time to think of translated words. 😕😕😕😕

Originally posted by: rimi10

Bheeshma and Karna, these two characters always makes be so emotional😒.

A very nice post though😊.

Two most righteous people and two most lonely people on earth. Even I like them a lot. But also hold responcible for wrong deeds. I think Bheeshm had no right to take that Bheeshan Pratigya. 😡

Originally posted by: rasyafan

Actually, no one raped her not.
I understand what you feel Candid but do you remember last year that girl's rape on 16 December 2012.
4 men and one boy raped her but the youngest boy did what he did to her. I feel scared even now to say it in actual words 😭😭😭 which got her brutally, inhumanly killed. Tell me only the boy was responsible for her cruel death or all 5 were responsible???? Were they all not involved in the crime? Should they be punished separately on the basis of who raped her, who disrobed her, who inserted that iron rod inside her???? Who did what to her?????

They all were involved in that heinous crime.

Similarly, wasn't Karn involved too in the crime against Draupadi? No matter who disrobed her all 98 Kaurav's were involved since they all supported the one who actually disrobed and who actually called her Vaishya and who called her to him to sit on his Jangha, Thighs. But what about the ones who were witnessing the crime not one of them so called maharathis had the guts to get up and kill them with their divine weapons. Bheeshm, Dronacharya and Kripacharya All Maharathis and teachers of Dharm paalan and what about the king himself. Right in front of him a woman, his daughter in law is being raped and yet he keeps mum? Why did he not order his sainiks to capture all the 98 Kauravs and throw them inside his jail? Because they all were his sons prince of Hastinapur.

In the end, we all say justice taken place naturally with the demise of all the culprits. Karn, Kauravs, Bheeshm, Dronacharya, Dhritrashtra, Kunit, Gandhari. The latter three were burnt during forest fire even they met with the justice of their bad crimes.

Whether Karn disrobed Draupadi or not, he was involved all the way.

I think even if Karn never wanted to be involved, or never ever would have been there but at that time he became insane with rage against Draupadi, Arjun and whole samaj for what they did to him. Especailly Draupadi and samaj like Dronacharya and his jealousy towards Arjun.

Somehow, I don't think that Karn had even laalsa to become a king or was ambitious enough to get a rajya his main aim in life was to harao Arjun in Archery.

No matter how fine a human he was even I like them for their righteousness, their strength, their ironed will power, their intelligence their beauty, their maharathipan, everything good in them but I cannot deny their wrong doings it is clearly staring in my face it is right in front of my eyes clear cut.

I love Bheeshm, Arjun, Karn, Krishn, Draupadi, Satyavati, Bheem I even Like Duryodhan in Old MB he is the cutest of them all and the best best actor. 😆😆😆 I simply love his expressions.

But all did adharm in their life and when they moment come or when they were facing weakest point in their lives jisse un sabhi se chook ho gayee.

Sorry friends, I use a lot of hindi words in between. Actually watching shows in hindi, only hindi words comes in mind and english translation becomes difficult at that time. It takes time to think of translated words.

agree with you dear..

Originally posted by: rasyafan

Two most righteous people and two most lonely people on earth. Even I like them a lot. But also hold responcible for wrong deeds. I think Bheeshm had no right to take that Bheeshan Pratigya. 😡

That pratigya was the pillar of all his sorrows. And he was cursed to live a sorrowful life :(

But what an oath it was! Nobody took such a vow before or after Devavrata. Because nobody had the power to do so 😊
The most selfless man ever <3

But he suffered too much...actually he suffered the most.

And a man like Shakuni died such a quick death 😡

Originally posted by: -Shruti

That pratigya was the pillar of all his sorrows. And he was cursed to live a sorrowful life :(

But what an oath it was! Nobody took such a vow before or after Devavrata. Because nobody had the power to do so 😊
The most selfless man ever <3

But he suffered too much...actually he suffered the most.

And a man like Shakuni died such a quick death 😡

True he suffered when he was most righteousness shakuni died a quick death when he inflicted most suffering on others and due to him mahabharat happened and he was responsible for all the deaths that happened during the battle but how little he suffered sometimes something like this makes me question god's ways of injustice and reason for his creation. 🤢🤢

@rasyafan i agree plus what I feel that in the end shakuni even though he died in the end he achieved what he wanted and schemed for ...destruction of the kuru dynasty.. because after the war nothing of kuru dynasty was left...only the pandav dynasty was created..isnt it?