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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovesunshine

i still wish before he took that oath he should have had a love interest/or relationship ...just to experience that side of life😊

Alas this never happened...I'd love to discuss what would have happened then.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Just imagine this scene in Mahabharat. Arav and Aham both are brilliant actors, they'll rock this scene.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovesunshine

i still wish before he took that oath he should have had a love interest/or relationship ...just to experience that side of life 😊



Had Shantanu not fallen in love with Satyavati then both Bheeshm and Satyavati would have been perfect couples not just in terms of their own chemistry but because they were a great team they had mutual understanding and compatibility, they both were intelegent, both respected each other, knew so well how to run a rajya, they were politically avair of their country and the entire aryavrat, just think if Bheeshm would have been a king then the janta would have benefited so well and Both would have maintained that Dharm is established. Bheeshm was such a learned strong willed Man.

I don't believe in this serial what they are showing or how they projected Satyavati's charatcer. For me this does not exist only. Forgoton it already.

Bharatvarsh has always been unlucky when it comes to their leader after the golden era she has seen before foreign invasion 😭😭😭 till right now we are unable to flourish real well according to our might and ability till today this country has so much of brain intelligence and will power of youth is so strong. We are passionate beings but alas our passion is being wasted on useless things.

Bheeshm became an eternal yogi and brahamcharya 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sorry but this has been altered ( the part which I highlighted ) , Bheeshma never said that Karna is equal is Krishna, Nobody is equal to Krishna Other than Shiva because they are supreme beings , As far as i have read on many sites bhishma told karna that he is greatest archer in the world and the best disciple of lord Parshurama only krishna himself can excel him , not arjun ,not bheeshma only Krishna.

Bheeshma was right about Karna, Only Krishna himself exceled him, the 3 curses,indra and kunti's efforts and Krishna's brilliance excelled him it took these things to take down the mighty KARNA.


True not Arjun but Karn or Eklavya were much better archer probably the world's best after Bheeshm ofcourse.

No one could match Bheeshm as for krishn how can anyone be better then Krishn the supereme being except for may be Shiv and Adi Shakti

They both are part of Adi Shakti the Goddess Maha maya the parameshwari herself.

I remember in DKDM when when VeerBhadra was destructing the people of Daksh after Sati dehen then when Vishnu ji was requested to protect Daksh and to stop Veerbhadra from his killing spree Vishnuji refused that if he used his might or sudershanchakra on veerbhadra then the whole srishti ka vinash nishchay hai their powers are equal so he vanished from the scene.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rasyafan



Had Shantanu not fallen in love with Satyavati then both Bheeshm and Satyavati would have been perfect couples not just in terms of their own chemistry but because they were a great team they had mutual understanding and compatibility, they both were intelegent, both respected each other, knew so well how to run a rajya, they were politically avair of their country and the entire aryavrat, just think if Bheeshm would have been a king then the janta would have benefited so well and Both would have maintained that Dharm is established. Bheeshm was such a learned strong willed Man.

I don't believe in this serial what they are showing or how they projected Satyavati's charatcer. For me this does not exist only. Forgoton it already.

Bharatvarsh has always been unlucky when it comes to their leader after the golden era she has seen before foreign invasion 😭😭😭 till right now we are unable to flourish real well according to our might and ability till today this country has so much of brain intelligence and will power of youth is so strong. We are passionate beings but alas our passion is being wasted on useless things.

Bheeshm became an eternal yogi and brahamcharya 😆

Awesome post. I always love reading your explanations 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Shruti

Awesome post. I always love reading your explanations 😃



Thanks dear and I love your posts they always make me stop and think from your point of views. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Shruti

I feel like bursting into tears the moment "Bed of arrows" strikes my mind. I'm hyper emotional 😆 and so attached to Mahamahim...

aha ! 😉 😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rasyafan

Sorry but this has been altered ( the part which I highlighted ) , Bheeshma never said that Karna is equal is Krishna, Nobody is equal to Krishna Other than Shiva because they are supreme beings , As far as i have read on many sites bhishma told karna that he is greatest archer in the world and the best disciple of lord Parshurama only krishna himself can excel him , not arjun ,not bheeshma only Krishna.

Bheeshma was right about Karna, Only Krishna himself exceled him, the 3 curses,indra and kunti's efforts and Krishna's brilliance excelled him it took these things to take down the mighty KARNA.



True not Arjun but Karn or Eklavya were much better archer probably the world's best after Bheeshm ofcourse.

No one could match Bheeshm as for krishn how can anyone be better then Krishn the supereme being except for may be Shiv and Adi Shakti

They both are part of Adi Shakti the Goddess Maha maya the parameshwari herself.

I remember in DKDM when when VeerBhadra was destructing the people of Daksh after Sati dehen then when Vishnu ji was requested to protect Daksh and to stop Veerbhadra from his killing spree Vishnuji refused that if he used his might or sudershanchakra on veerbhadra then the whole srishti ka vinash nishchay hai their powers are equal so he vanished from the scene.

In MB four people are considered to be the best drona,bheeshm,karna,arjun ,each had his boon (bhishma) or his curse ( karna ) , there was no fair fight in MB because bheeshma was invinicble because of his boon karna had his curses , It doesnt matter how powerful the enemy is bheeshma cannot be defeated, similiar way it doesnt matter how good and powerful karna was he had his curses which made him weak.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post, this is one of my most favourite events because it features two of the most strongest and loneliest personalities in the Mahabharat. If there were any from the Mahabharata who knew what true loneliness was it was both Bheeshma and Karna. Each one led a very burdensome life because on the one hand they were bound by their word and at instances in their life these very oaths rebounded back on them when they were faced with moral duties; the scene bespeaks their sense of their existential condition and pointlessness of desires but above all their sincere mutual respect and acknowledgement for each others valour amid all the suffering.

The meeting that occurred with Bheeshma lying in the bleak desert of the aftermath in his his arrow filled bed and Karna who comes to pay his respects, is one of the most poignant moments that I remember from the old show. Does anyone recollect the BRC MB scene when this happens? That scene just strikes a chord with one, it spelt perfection in everything ffrom the juxtaposition of the melancholy music, to the tinge of sadness and affection in Bheeshmas voice as he talks to Karna and Karna standing at his feet in solemn attendance to Bheeshmas words to his profound reverence and deep respect for Bheeshma as he greets him in a way he never had, to Bheeshmas glow of pride for Karna as he watches a great man walking away into the night,. The deep mutual respect they shared for each other, a solemn picture against the inevitable crisis each found themselves embroiled in and their tragic relationship as a result of their isolated fate.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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In MB four people are considered to be the best drona,bheeshm,karna,arjun ,each had his boon (bhishma) or his curse ( karna ) , there was no fair fight in MB because bheeshma was invinicble because of his boon karna had his curses , It doesnt matter how powerful the enemy is bheeshma cannot be defeated, similiar way it doesnt matter how good and powerful karna was he had his curses which made him weak.


True the entire war was not fair, there was too much of both dharm and adharm on both sides. However,
If Bheeshm got his boons then it was becasue of his good deeds such as his father gave him the boon of Ichchha mritu and parshuram gave him the boon of being invincible or koi hara nahi sakta unhe and karn got his curses because of his lies and deceptions to Bhagwan Parshuram. Especially from Parshuram and from Draupadi for what he did to her.

Bheeshm got the curse from Amba even when he hurt Amba but it was unintentionally whereas Karn tried to rape Draupadi intentionally. In Front of the entire people full of raj sabha, in front of her elders, her husbands, he called her Vaishya.

But the end of both were same. They sided with Duryodhan knowing fully well that they were doing wrong but they were bound by obligations. Bheeshm was bound by his duty towards the Raj Singhasan and his city Hastinapur and his lineage and his promise to his father that he would always look after his legacy where as Karn was bound and obligated to Duryodhan because of his friendship and for making him anraj king.

There is a huge difference in both yet they suffered the same brutal demise and end of their lives.

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