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Posted: 11 years ago
#41
^^ Thanks rasyafan 😳
I see that we have many explanations put forwrad regarding the TM's question. Lets compile them and may be take a fresh look-
1- All Pandavas are Pandu's and Kunti-Madri's biological sons.
2- At least one son is their biological son if not all.
3- None are biological son of Pandu but a result of
a) union of Kunti or Madri with other humans ( Rishiis / Vidura/ other men)
b) Union of Kunti / Madri with devas - (physical union vs spiritual union)
4- The Pandavas were neither Pandu nor Kunti- Madri's biological sons (they did not carry them in their womb) but were adopted (gifts) by devas or someone else.
If I missed including any explanation discussed so far kindly add it here.
Edited by peridot. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: ratilal22192




yes thats what I said earlier but no one paid heed to it, I had said that just because people dont see it being possible in this day and age, doesnt mean it couldnt have happened in that yug, I mean, if someone said that there would be tv and internet back in the 1800s, they would send that person to the mental asylum! Just because you live in a paradigm of the times doesnt mean the Mahabharat could not have happened the way Ved Vyas wrote it, come on give the man credit, he probably more knowledgable than any of us...


ya. i agree wid you too. so far ved vyas is concerned, he was def more knowledgeable than any of us. i mean c'mon lets say mahabharat is myth and he cooked up a story. but writing such a complicated story wid such strong characters (there is not a single character who has a weak storyline) wid so many layers is not an easy job. requires a lot of intelligence, creativity and a deep knowledge abt life. even if someone argues by saying mahabharat is true and ved vyas simply saw the events and created the poem, it still requires all of the above stated things in an author. anyway, sometimes i wonder if mankind is going further or backwards. coz i believe there is atleast a grain of truth in every legend or myth that exists on this planet. btw u r right abt the tv and internet argument. lol they didnt need it. there were rishis for looking into past present and future.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43
Ved Vyas & other rishis could see past, present & future because their Spiritual developement was quite high, which gave them that vision to see what normal Humans couldn't. They were respected for their knowledge. They were expert Scientists, capable of decoding many secrets.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44
any more theories about pandavas biological parents, anyone or are we done ?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: john909


ya. i agree wid you too. so far ved vyas is concerned, he was def more knowledgeable than any of us. i mean c'mon lets say mahabharat is myth and he cooked up a story. but writing such a complicated story wid such strong characters (there is not a single character who has a weak storyline) wid so many layers is not an easy job. requires a lot of intelligence, creativity and a deep knowledge abt life. even if someone argues by saying mahabharat is true and ved vyas simply saw the events and created the poem, it still requires all of the above stated things in an author. anyway, sometimes i wonder if mankind is going further or backwards. coz i believe there is atleast a grain of truth in every legend or myth that exists on this planet. btw u r right abt the tv and internet argument. lol they didnt need it. there were rishis for looking into past present and future.



Even if this story is a myth but it's complications intacts with many stories, many sub stories, somehow I find it difficult that anyone's imagination could be this wild. I mean how can anyone write thousands of stories of all purans as well as epics each leading to other stories which unfolds somewhere else. And such depth of knowledge about life and truth of life, facts of life, future, present, past, everything proves that the stories were not just stories but actually happened in real life. What about other things which are present such as excavation of dwarika nagri and purana kila, mathura, gokul, barsana, brajbhoomi etc all place do exist, The journey of Gangaji wherever she goes there is a story whether it is kashi or hardwar etc how will you say all these are myths. For me, they are real stories and gods and devs did exists some 2 crores years ago as baba Ramdev say. There are simply too many examples which prove that some sort of mystical power or divine power did exist in bharat bhoomi and sages and meditation has a lot to do with it. In fact, Sages word and hard work is more present here then gods presence
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46
Any particular reason why so many births are said to have taken place by unntural means ?
To name a few-
Pandavas birth- falling from the sky
kauravas birth- 100 babies born in pots
Dronacharya born in a drona without any biological mother
Draupadi born from yagya fire as a full grown adult
Ved Vyasa born as full grown adult - child of parashar rishi and satyawati
Women like Kunti, satyawati and Draupadi- virgins even after giving birth to babies
...and many more...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#47
wow a second topic on the same issue??
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48
was there a previous topic on this issue ? where?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49
No new take on the issue but here is a very interesting article on Pandu and the birth of his kids if you are interested
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Posted: 11 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: peridot.

Any particular reason why so many births are said to have taken place by unntural means ?

To name a few-
Pandavas birth- falling from the sky
kauravas birth- 100 babies born in pots
Dronacharya born in a drona without any biological mother
Draupadi born from yagya fire as a full grown adult
Ved Vyasa born as full grown adult - child of parashar rishi and satyawati
Women like Kunti, satyawati and Draupadi- virgins even after giving birth to babies
...and many more...


This I can explain...it is to give epic desired austerity and answer pesky questions like the ones we are asking

Pandavas birth- falling from the sky...Probably kids from niyog but that would have complicated the story and somehow created doubts about their claim to throne and Pandu's intentions given that Dhri had the capability to give heir to the throne.

kauravas birth- 100 babies born in pots...Interestingly the description is very close to test-tube babies born in surrogacy or a lab.

Dronacharya born in a drona without any biological mother...interesting ...again would assume that either he was a test-tube baby or an adopted kid

Draupadi born from yagya fire as a full grown adult...This is interesting...I would assume either an adoption or some sort of genetic cloning. It is notable that most scientific procedures in the religious texts are often refered to as yagya.

Ved Vyasa born as full grown adult - child of parashar rishi and satyawati...not sure about this one...either it was a myth or another case of cloning (which makes no sense)

Women like Kunti, satyawati and Draupadi- virgins even after giving birth to babies...This reminds me of Mary...either it was a myth to ensure that these characters were treated with proper seriousness and respect despite their apparent fall from grace in a rapidly growing conservative society ...or we are referring to emotional disconnect or they went through procedures to repair you know what.

It is notable that Mahabharat is supposedly set in iron age Vedic period...there were a lot of supposed changes in this time...people were moving from nomadic behavior to settling in tribes and cities. The society which was once very open in terms of intimacy was rapidly growing more conservative and society was beginning to implement the acceptable rules of behavior.




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