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Posted: 11 years ago
Uh, Zulus are in mainland South Africa. Madagascar is an island off Africa, and probably still was at the time. Duryodhan would have gotten the entire island to himself, and after the exile, the Pandavas could have simply returned to Indraprastha and resumed ruling.

Of course, the question of their vows would have remained, and Bhima couldn't have done squat against Duryodhan or Dushashan. Arjun & Sahadev, however, could have hunted down Karna & Shakuni
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: CapeBuffalo


There are communities which regard Balarama as the God of Agriculture and Krishna as the God of Animal Husbandry. Both go hand in hand. Hence Balarama with plough and Krishna with butter.

In war I guess he generally fought with bow/arrows and in close combat with mace.

Ha ha!! Had he floated if off to Madagascar then no MB war in India. Maybe Duryodhan would fought with the Zulus with Rhinos pulling the Zulu chariots😊


Yes,Balram is worshipped before tilling the soil for agricuture in some communities of Orissa.

I think the geographical position of countires was different in that age.Read that Kalyavan was from Mongolia.🤔Any idea about this...
Edited by Cool-n-Fresh - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
I have a question:

I know this is the order of the births:

Karna, Yuddhistir, Bheem, Dhuryodhan, Krishna, Arjun, Nakul and Sahadev.

My question is: Where do Balram, Dushasan, (the other sons) and Dushala fit into this?

Thanks :)

ALSO if anyone knows how Devki and Vasudev's marriage fits into the time frame with Gandhari's marriage, etc.
Edited by Manojie - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
We once addressed this in DBSK. Balarama would probably be around equal to Yudisthir, or at least older to Bhima. And younger to Karna. Krishna was b/w Bhima & Arjun.

Duryodhan & Bhima shared the birthday, & probably time - there is no clear mention of who b/w these 2 were older. B/w Duryodhan & Dushashan, Dhritarashtra's (not Gandhari's) maid gave birth to Yuyutsu. Then came Duhsasana & all the rest.

I think Duhsala was the youngest.

Vasudev & Devaki would probably have married after Kunti did. Since Pandu's marriage happened after Dhritarashtra's, so Devaki's marriage would have happened some time after Gandhari's. But it's unclear whether Vasudev would have been completely unmarried b4 Kunti got married.
Edited by .Vrish. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

We once addressed this in DBSK. Balarama would probably be around equal to Yudisthir, or at least older to Bhima. And younger to Karna. Krishna was b/w Bhima & Arjun.

Duryodhan & Bhima shared the birthday, & probably time - there is no clear mention of who b/w these 2 were older. B/w Duryodhan & Dushashan, Dhritarashtra's (not Gandhari's) maid gave birth to Yuyutsu. Then came Duhsasana & all the rest.

I think Duhsala was the youngest.

Vasudev & Devaki would probably have married after Kunti did. Since Pandu's marriage happened after Dhritarashtra's, so Devaki's marriage would have happened some time after Gandhari's. But it's unclear whether Vasudev would have been completely unmarried b4 Kunti got married.



OK so it would be:

1) Karna

2) Yuddhistir

3) Balram (I put Balram younger purely because Bheem, because there are a few people before Krishna)

4) Bheem (I did read somewhere that Bheem was one day elder than Dhuryodhan, but lets just say they're equal).

5) Yuyutsu (Older or Younger than Arjun?/Krishna?)

6) Krishna

7) Arjun

8) Dushasan + 98 brothers?

9) Nakul and Sahadev

10) Dushala?

11) Many many years later Subhadra.
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Posted: 11 years ago
I am a bit unsure about Devki and Vasudev marrying after Pandu, etc.

Gandhari was pregnant for 2 years, however if Balram (7th child) of Devki Vasudev is equivalent to first child of the Kurus, I assume they would have married much earlier than Pandu/Kunti/Madri and Dhiritashtra/Gandhari?
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Posted: 11 years ago
Oh, I thought I had implied that Duryodhan's brothers were born just after him - same day, but after Yuyutsu as well. So the order would be
  1. Karna
  2. Yudhisthir
  3. Bhima
  4. Duryodhan
  5. Yuyutsu
  6. Dushashan & the rest, including Duhsala
  7. Krishna
  8. Arjun
  9. Nakul
  10. Sahadev
  11. Sishupala, Dantavatra, Bhadra, Vinda, Anuvinda, Mitravindya (all kids of Kunti's & Vasudev's sisters)
  12. Subhadra

Originally posted by: Manojie

OK so it would be:

1) Karna

2) Yuddhistir

3) Balram (I put Balram younger purely because Bheem, because there are a few people before Krishna)

4) Bheem (I did read somewhere that Bheem was one day elder than Dhuryodhan, but lets just say they're equal).

5) Yuyutsu (Older or Younger than Arjun?/Krishna?)

6) Krishna

7) Arjun

8) Dushasan + 98 brothers?

9) Nakul and Sahadev

10) Dushala?

11) Many many years later Subhadra.



I think you are right about Vasudev marrying earlier - I had forgotten about the first 6 slain babies. But then, wouldn't Kunti have been married b4 Vasudev?
Edited by .Vrish. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

In Mahabharat it said that the slained Naraka assumed the form of Karna.If we consider this all the Pandavas including Karna and Kauravas will be much younger than Balram and Krishna.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Where?

Couldn't have happened, since Naraka was slain by Krishna, who himself was younger to Karna.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Bheem & all children of Dhridrashtra are of almost same age..

Bheem - Dury: same day but no clarity of time difference..

followed by Yuyutsu, Dushasan, other 9 &, Dushala within a month.. the list of boys in the order is available in the text.. we don't know whether Dushala is youngest of all coz she is not a part of the list..

Edited by Ddiala - 11 years ago

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