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Originally posted by: CapeBuffalo

I have another question.

I have read that it was Agni who gave the Sudarshan Chakra to Krishna and the Gandiva to Arjuna after the burning of the Khandava forest.

But yesterday they showed Krishna with Sudarshan chakra so am in doubt now when did Krishna actually have the Sudarshan with him?

Originally posted by: CapeBuffalo

I have another question.

I have read that it was Agni who gave the Sudarshan Chakra to Krishna and the Gandiva to Arjuna after the burning of the Khandava forest.

But yesterday they showed Krishna with Sudarshan chakra so am in doubt now when did Krishna actually have the Sudarshan with him?

This one is easy - one word - Jarasandha. Vidarbha was a vassal state of Magadha, and couldn't have policies that were hostile to Magadha. On top of that, Rukmi was a great ally of Jarasandha. So if Jarasandha blessed Sishupala's marriage to Rukmini, there was nothing that Bheeshmaka could do about it, even though he & his wife secretly supported Krishna having her.

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

This one is easy - one word - Jarasandha. Vidarbha was a vassal state of Magadha, and couldn't have policies that were hostile to Magadha. On top of that, Rukmi was a great ally of Jarasandha. So if Jarasandha blessed Sishupala's marriage to Rukmini, there was nothing that Bheeshmaka could do about it, even though he & his wife secretly supported Krishna having her.

Originally posted by: varaali

There are two explanations on how Krishna got his Sudarshana.

The incident you have described above is mentioned in the MB.

SB is silent on how exactly Krishna obtained the Sudarshana (though it does mention that Arjuna got his Gandhiva, etc during the Khandava vana dahana)

In Harivamsa, we get a different story altogether. During their escapade from Jarasandha, Krishna and Balarama sought refuge in the Gomantaka mountains and just before Jarasandha came their, the Sudarshana, Kaumodaki, Sunada (Balrama's plough) dropped from the sky.

No, Jarasandha wasn't a demon king. But his father had 2 wives & no sons, & a rishi gave him a mango and asked him to give it to his wife, who would bear him sons. The king didn't want to be partial to either wife, so he split the mango b/w them and each gave birth to a symmetric half of a baby. They abandoned it, but a rakshashi named Jara took the 2 halves & joined them, bringing it to life. The king then returned & reclaimed the baby.

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

SB is not silent. The sudarshan is one of the weapons of Vishnu that Krishna & Balarama received from the chariot that came from the sky on the eve of their first battle against Jarasandha

One question - was Balarama's plow a weapon or a farming accessory? B'cos other than him, I've never read of anybody using the plow as a weapon.

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

One question - was Balarama's plow a weapon or a farming accessory? B'cos other than him, I've never read of anybody using the plow as a weapon.

One thing I'm thankful for in Monday's episode, which I just saw - Balarama fought w/ his mace, and just used the plow to shatter the ground.

My favorite use of Balarama's plow was when he uprooted Hastinapur & put it in the middle of the Ganga. He should have floated it off near Madagascar 😈