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Posted: 11 years ago
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After karna died did duryodhana find out karna's real identity? If so what was his reaction?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: angelic8219

After karna died did duryodhana find out karna's real identity? If so what was his reaction?


No.

Karna's real identity was revealed by Kunti only after the War (that too, only to the Pandavas) while they were performing Tarpan for all those who had died in battle.

Duryodhana died before that.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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@angelic thanks fr the detailed information 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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btw in BR chopra's version of the mahabharatha, it is shown that duirng the war one evening after karna's death when duryodhan was feeling sad and missed karna he went to bheeshma and expressed his sadness and bheeshma told duryodhan the real identity of karna and duryodhna was shocked abt this and praised karna to be such a good friend.
Edited by lovesunshine - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovesunshine

btw in BR chopra's version of the mahabharatha, it is shown that duirng the war one evening after karna's death when duryodhan was feeling sad and missed karna he went to bheeshma and expressed his sadness and bheeshma told duryodhan the real identity of karna and duryodhna was shocked abt this and praised karna to be such a good friend.


See I got confused based on that version I thought Kunti told pandavas after karna died that he is infact their older brother so then I thought maybe duryodhan found out too.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovesunshine

btw in BR chopra's version of the mahabharatha, it is shown that duirng the war one evening after karna's death when duryodhan was feeling sad and missed karna he went to bheeshma and expressed his sadness and bheeshma told duryodhan the real identity of karna and duryodhna was shocked abt this and praised karna to be such a good friend.


No, that was unadulterated BS coming out of that show, which was one of zillions, which is why I hated that serial. What Varaali wrote was correct. The revelation about Karna was a private affair b/w Kunti & the 5 Pandavas. Even Dhritarashtra & Gandhari weren't there - unlike what they showed in Ramanand Sagar's Shri Krishna. I hope that in this serial, they show only Kunti telling only the Pandavas about it all.

In fact, even Kunti's reason for doing it was that when the Pandavas had done the funerals of all their kinsmen & allies, they hadn't done it for Karna, who was a nobody for them. But there was apparently nobody to do it for Karna either (Vyasa's account has nothing about any Vrishaketu, who would have done the honors). Kunti didn't want that Karna not attain heaven due to not getting a proper funeral, so out of desperation, she fessed up everything to Yudhisthir.
Edited by .Vrish. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Different question, to bring this sync this thread a bit more w/ the serial, since it's getting closer to the point where we'll be seeing the start of the story


When Satyavati's father declined to give Satyavati in marriage to Shantanu, why didn't he simply assert his royal authority and forcibly seize Satyavati & marry her? At that time, kings had absolute despotic power, and there were no limitations on what they could do. Indeed, as Bheeshma himself demonstrated several years later, when he seized Amba, Ambika & Ambalika, might was right. It would have been no big deal for the king of Hastinapur to simply seize that maiden who got him so infatuated, and then marry her. If she wanted, he could later have given Chitrangada/Vichitravirya a conquered kingdom.

So why did Shantanu not do it? Please don't make me laugh w/ a 'he respected the wishes of Satyavati's father'. Rulers of that time did nothing of the sort.
Edited by .Vrish. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Different question, to bring this sync this thread a bit more w/ the serial, since it's getting closer to the point where we'll be seeing the start of the story

When Satyavati's father declined to give Satyavati in marriage to Shantanu, why didn't he simply assert his royal authority and forcibly seize Satyavati & marry her? At that time, kings had absolute despotic power, and there were no limitations on what they could do. Indeed, as Bheeshma himself demonstrated several years later, when he seized Amba, Ambika & Ambalika, might is right. It would have been no big deal for the king of Hastinapur to simply seize that maiden who got him so infatuated, and then marry her. If she wanted, he could later have given Chitrangada/Vichitravirya a conquered kingdom.

So why did Shantanu not do it? Please don't make me laugh w/ a 'he respected the wishes of Satyavati's father'. Rulers of that time did nothing of the sort.


May be only the Princesses were seized.😆As invasions were prevalent,the winner could take the princess of the loser with him.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Different question, to bring this sync this thread a bit more w/ the serial, since it's getting closer to the point where we'll be seeing the start of the story


When Satyavati's father declined to give Satyavati in marriage to Shantanu, why didn't he simply assert his royal authority and forcibly seize Satyavati & marry her? At that time, kings had absolute despotic power, and there were no limitations on what they could do. Indeed, as Bheeshma himself demonstrated several years later, when he seized Amba, Ambika & Ambalika, might was right. It would have been no big deal for the king of Hastinapur to simply seize that maiden who got him so infatuated, and then marry her. If she wanted, he could later have given Chitrangada/Vichitravirya a conquered kingdom.

So why did Shantanu not do it? Please don't make me laugh w/ a 'he respected the wishes of Satyavati's father'. Rulers of that time did nothing of the sort.


Maybe it just didnt occur to him, maybe he was too busy pining over why on earth he was rejected being the king and that satyavati could have the life of luxury so what father wouldn't want that for their daughter.
Why was it so important for bhishma to get his father and satyavati together?


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Devrata (as he was known then) was worried about the kingdom being ignored as a result of his father's obsession, and so did what he could to resolve that.
The other question - how could Shantanu grant a boon of ichcha-mrityu, where Bheeshma could only die when he wanted to?

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