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Posted: 11 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: Arijit007

well, i have a question too, we all know about raamayan and its many versions, can someone please tell me how many versions of mahabharat are out there? and what they are?



I have heard of many versions of Mahabharat (not full versions. some stories).

In the same way Ramayan has many versions and stories Mahabharat too has many versions.

Though we're taught that Valmiki is the true Ramayan, the Mahabharat written by Vyas is the true Mahabharat :)
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Posted: 11 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

The author had a tough time keeping his stories straight - just look at Mahabharata vs Shrimad Bhagvatam, for starters.

Another question - Parashurama was well known for his blind hatred of Kshatriyas - even when he confronted Rama, it was more hostile than not. Later, he cursed Karna for lying to him, and suspected that he was a Kshatriya. Given all that, why did he agree to teach Devrath, given that the latter too was a Kshatriya? Did Ganga cut any deals w/ him - you may not bathe in me unless you tutor Devrath? 😆



Parashuram didn't hate Kshatriyas who were just. He hated the arrogance they displayed. Their belief they were supereme and mighty over the others.

Remember Parshuram had no problem with King Janak who was righteous. He had a problem with Ram at first as he believed him to have damaged Shiv Dhanush.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: Mkerai



Parashuram didn't hate Kshatriyas who were just. He hated the arrogance they displayed. Their belief they were supereme and mighty over the others.

Remember Parshuram had no problem with King Janak who was righteous. He had a problem with Ram at first as he believed him to have damaged Shiv Dhanush.


Vengeance against Kshatriya

Parashurama then travelled throughout the Indian subcontinent, killing all men of the Kshatriya caste, guilty or innocent.[4] The first book of the Mahabharata writes:

In the interval between the Treta and Dwapara Yugas, Parashurama, great among all who have borne arms, urged by impatience of wrongs, repeatedly smote the noble race of Kshatriyas. And when that fiery meteor, by his own valour, annihilated the entire tribe of the Kshatriyas, he formed at Samanta-panchaka five lakes of blood.
"Mahabharata 1:2[6]
Parashurama returning with the sacred calf with Jamadagni cautioning him to not be controlled by anger

One legend describes Parasharuma returning to a village after battle in what is now the Badami Taluka, Bagalkot district of Karnataka. While the warrior-sage washed his axe beyond a sharp turn in the river Malaprabha, unknown to him, village women were cleaning their clothes downstream. His mighty axe stained the entire river red, and the women exclaimed "Ai hole!" translating to 'Oh, what a river!'. This is said to be the etymology of the present-day village Aihole.[5]

There is another legend that the Nairs, Bunts and Nagas of Kerala and Tulunadu, receiving word as Parashurama approached, took the sacred threads that marked them twice-born, hid them in the forest and traveled south. Parashurama then gave their land to the Nambuthiri Brahmins, and the Nambuthiri then denied the Nairs and Bunts their status as royalty when Parashurama left.[5]

After he had finally rid the world of Kshatriyas, Parashurama conducted the Ashvamedha sacrifice, done only by sovereign kings, and gave the land he had conquered to the Brahmin head-priests, who performed the yagya Kashyapa. The Ashvamedha demanded that the remaining Kshatriya kings either submit to Parashurama, or stop the sacrifice by defeating him in battle. They were unable to do either, and so perished.[1]

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Posted: 11 years ago
#94
lovesunshine is correct. The evidence clearly shows that Parashurama hated Kshatriyas in the same manner like casteist politicians hate people of an entire caste. Aside from her citation above, even the ACK points out that Parashurama started killing good rulers everywhere and there was chaos - which was when Bhoomi Devi approached Rishi Kashyap and begged her to put a stop to this.
The Parashurama encounter w/ Rama as described in RCM was a Tulsidas invention. But in Valmiki, Parashurama accosted Dasharath in a pretty hostile way, which is why Dasharath was pleading for Rama. However, Rama stood Parashurama down, and when he did fix an arrow after stringing Vishnu's bow, he asked Parashurama what he should destroy. Parashurama picked the fruits of his tapas.

Anyway, the point of my question was - given all that history, it was really strange that Parashurama, who by some accounts cursed Karna once he guessed that the latter was a kshatriya by birth, would deign to tutor Devarath in anything
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Posted: 11 years ago
#95

Cherry, Devavrat Is Bheeshma.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt


Cherry, Devavrat Is Bheeshma.😆


Then who is Devaratha?😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cool-n-Fresh


Then who is Devaratha?😕

It is actually Devavrata.. I think it became Devarata because in Hindi it is pronounced as Devvrat.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Why Draupadi got married with 5 Pandavas? I know because of Kunti's words?

But what was necessary if Kunti would say "we will make 5 parts of thing to all brother..."!!??

Arjun could tell that it's impossible because this thing is lady,who can't be parted.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Proud-India

Why Draupadi got married with 5 Pandavas? I know because of Kunti's words?

But what was necessary if Kunti would say "we will make 5 parts of thing to all brother..."!!??

Arjun could tell that it's impossible because this thing is lady,who can't be parted.


Apparently a lady could be shared as a wife- according to Yudhishthira at least.

He gives two examples- I'm forgetting which ones- about ten rishis having a common wife and tries to convince Drupada that it was well sanctioned by the scriptures.

If anyone could have complained it should have been Draupadi- but she seems to have lost her voice here 😕
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: varaali


Apparently a lady could be shared as a wife- according to Yudhishthira at least.

He gives two examples- I'm forgetting which ones- about ten rishis having a common wife and tries to convince Drupada that it was well sanctioned by the scriptures.

If anyone could have complained it should have been Draupadi- but she seems to have lost her voice here 😕


She probably would still have been in shock😆

Anyway, as Vyasa pointed out to the Pandavas, in her previous birth, Draupadi had prayed to SHiva and had asked him "Patim Dehi" (Give me a husband) five times. So SHiva said ok. Draupadi was shocked, but Shiva pointed out that she had asked him the same thing five times, so he had to grant that boon.
But he said, that Draupadi could be a Kanya at will, that is, whenever she thought of any husband, only that person would be counted as her husband at that time, and so she could rotate her husbands periodically; at least that is what I understood of his boon...

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