Points to be Noted: Few things from a Sultanian

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gator

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Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#71

Sexual harassment is bullying or coercion of a sexual nature, or the unwelcome or inappropriate promise of rewards in exchange for sexual favors.^[1] In most modern legal contexts, sexual harassment is illegal. As defined by the US EEOC, "It is unlawful to harass a person (an applicant or employee) because of that person's sex." Harassment can include "sexual harassment" or unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical harassment of a sexual nature.

KIsko mangta tha definition ?

And seriously liks don't bother explaining them wen RK was WRONG. Cz for them he wasn't ever Wrong. We all have said tonnes of times what he did was beyond going bk, chaining, asking her to jump, kidnapping etc etc, we all know as we watch the same show, but all this wen done by Sultan is wrong. Tel lene gayi nautanki shaadi cz MB is nothing but a puppet even till now in RKs hands. Sultan is reciprocating the same way as RK did and to undo the MESS that CV created by doing the FLOP shaadi they are going in for divorce track, so now the heroine will be free and both the parties can fight over who will WIN. This is all trp BS on the basis of which show runs. After MB is free then a love triangle will be created and another fan war will be seen here.

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

Stunner

Posted: 12 years ago

#72

@gator, they are seeing the 'sexual nature' and 'sexual favor' part of it and saying RK was doing it all for love, not sex.🤣 It doesn't matter man. A guy constantly harassing for a simple date would be sexual harassment, even if it's not explicitly sexual.

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

Stunner

Posted: 12 years ago

#73

@Bournville, I didn't see your reply earlier on page 5. Or else I would've replied directly. I just saw it now, and I've already replied to your points in other replies.

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GoldenPanda.

@GoldenPanda.

Rocker

+ 3

Posted: 12 years ago

#74

I haven't been watching this show for months now, and I remember how that sh*t with RK just got way out of hand and too much for me. The abuse and harassment that he put Madhu through was just too sadistic and demeaning for me to watch. I didn't support it back then and I don't support it now, although I'm pretty sure that Sultan hasn't done 1/100 of the stuff that RK did to Madhu.

I'll always be a Sultan/Sulbala fan and even though I don't watch this show anymore; I truly hope that the CV's won't make Sultan stoop to RK's level.

They should just bring RK out of jail and put Madhu back with him and give Sultan to me

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sowmya

@Not_a_fan

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+ 5

Posted: 12 years ago

#75

Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy

@Blue : Yes she keeps on ranting that she belongs to RK, and frankly speaking I never wanted Sultan-Madhu either. They were good as friends, so dont think that i was rooting for them and thats why R-M doesnt interest me. Keeping that in mind, yes she keeps saying that and Iam not saying she doesnt, but then what do we viewers need to do? Sit back and say "oh she is the one who is interested in that abusive relationship, so we shouldnt bother about it and just enjoy their romance and credit this to be a once in a lifetime kind of love?" . I dont know what the writers of this show want from the viewers frankly. If they wanted the viewers to see love as the leading lady of this show keeps ranting then why the hell did they not show a proper redemption? There was a time when i was rooting for RK still doing it for a reason just like I am now for Sultan but the guy was just ruthless, had no reason by 4 slaps for his behavior. M can forget all that and claim her patidev to be the truest of all who does nothing behind the back, shall we agree to that too since the lady claims so? 😊

@Red : No, that was not the first time R used M in their equation. It was ever since Sultan entered the show...even after M tried jumping off the building (to show how much she loves him) the guy had no shame in rubbing in M and Ss face about their friendship. So dont blame S for that. That scene came much later and Rs mind is already filled with the crap that S is doing this for getting M. May be u should revisit the havan scene, if u need more explanation on that.

R can have all his reasons for not believing S and S had all his reasons to go fight the kundras for his mom. The Q today is what we support and I say , i dont support S doing this to M without a valid reason. Just like u justified Rs blabbering about S at the havan, how he tried to get S caught by the police and how he tried to belittle Ss mom too when S was claiming her rights( all this have been done by R during that Heir-Track and u said he was right in not believing S and i assumed u were ok with all that he did to S and his mom during that track)...we are saying, we will wait for Ss justification on why he is doing all that he has been doing from that fateful night.

Rest, i dont have anything to add to this convo 😊

I will never and have never supported RK in any of his craziness. But, I do like what CVs and even VD have done with his character coz it's not often you see a main lead who's not all sacrificing and toeing the line of the female lead and/or vamp while making puppy dog eyes and mouthing senti dialogues. So yeah, I do like his character simply for being different and for the multi layered way it's written. MB is more caricaturish for me, so I'm not interested. Sultan is ok, but there was never a character building moment for me that explained his actions and motivations. Why did he have to become a gangster. I understand his parents (caretakers died), but how did that lead to him becoming a gangster? What about his wife? How did she die? Was it coz of his profession? How does he feel about his wife? RK is what he is; the writers have done a good job explaining why he is the way he is. I don't feel the same connect with sultan, or even madhu. She's just flip-flopping all the time going overboard frequently. Sultan seemed to have been introduced simply as a foil against RK with an interesting background but nothing was every fully explained.

You're talking of real life, who gives shelter to and fights for a random gangster? This knowing her own family and neighbors, her benefactors were in danger coz of it? Which gangster can openly roam this way without fearing for his life? What happened to his gangster life anyways? There is no connection between background, motivations etc. for any of these characters except RK for whom his background as a film persona is a big part of who he is. For me personally, I need to see motivation behind a person's nature to connect with him/her and I need to see motivation behind the action to even understand it. And while RK is evil and everything else you throw at him; for me at least his motivations are understandable if not right . Again, it's not coz I support him-I do not and will never support what I feel is wrong. Sultan's actions don't seem to have motivation or at least his actions dont seem to support his "supposed" motivation for getting justice for his mom. Maybe the writers will find a way to justify them, and maybe I will change my stance then. But it is unlikely coz if his motive is to get justice for his mom like you say, then this is not the way to do it. And even if RK did all the things sultan is doing and worse, still doesn't justify sultan doing it too.

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sowmya

@Not_a_fan

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Posted: 12 years ago

#76

Originally posted by: likarsh

@bold. That's the point. Sultan's character turn does not make sense. Not at all.

It doesn't. And for me personally, there will be no justification that will make sense. Once he regains his senses and repents for/corrects his actions, then I will judge him based on his principled gangster-turned-evil-turned-redempted guy. Like I judge RK based on what I see so far of him i.e. arrogant actor-turned-evil-turned-confused-turned accepted what's dished out to him. So even if sultan has valid reasons for whatever he's doing, won't make it right for me. His actions are wrong, and they will remain wrong however noble his intentions are. Likewise, RK. Just coz he's somewhat redeemed now, his earlier actions haven't been forgotten right?

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Siri22

@Siri22

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#77

I was a hardcore RK fan till unwedding happened.

If I didn't support RK whom I was a pankhie at one point why would I support Sultan for what he's doing to madhu? Even I think there's something behind his turnabout just like RK's love confession never made sense to us. I'm just curious about the twist the makers are gonna throw at us cos they're good at it.

Thanks liks for making this post on behalf of me too.

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

Stunner

Posted: 12 years ago

#78

Originally posted by: Jugliji
Awesome Post Liks.

There is no doubt in my mind that Sultan's sudden change in character has a very solid reason and that if the CV's are clever they will show it in a few more days

There has to be a method to the madness that CV's have to go and make such an unbelievable change in a character who came into the show to bring justice for his mother to suddenly forget all that and go after MB.

So yes. I too will wait and hope the writers have a clear and solid and logical excuse for doing this or it will be Adios to this show just like when they made JR do all the obnoxious stuff to MB.

I am still hoping that the writers also remember that his show was about a strong and independent woman and her journey and not this weak and love struck begging for attention kind of women who easily forgets what was done to her by a sadistic man and calls it "Anokha Pyaar" and expects us to swallow that now their main heroine is also turned into a WIMP of her former self.

The CV's have butchered most characters in this show. I sincerely hope they have a way to bring this show to it's original concept.

Dolly what to do other than just 👏👏👏 this. Nothing more. I can only applaud.

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

Stunner

Posted: 12 years ago

#79

Some people still don't seem to understand what I've written. Let me break it down simply.

1) Sultan's 'junoon' is not acceptable

2) His harassment, intimidation and manhandling of Madhu is also not acceptable.

3) We will see if there's something else driving him to do this, and if there is perhaps, perhaps there's a chance that it may be understandable.

4) Using Madhu as a pawn to defeat Rishabh is also not acceptable.