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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: mocking_bird

He surely has a reason and we will get to see that too in upcoming episodes. May be we will get back our Sultan once Madhu goes and stays with him.

As of now, I enjoy this new avtaar of sultan because, AR has taken the character to a different height altogether and though I do not approve of his approach,I surely clap for the fabulous performance.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: N.bhavna

Motive is very important behind any crime, And if sultan is doing any crime , then we should first see what the motive is...to ruin the chooparchtar. i do not see any hidden reason for it.


It gives me a kind of 'sukoon' , when i see some one is capable of giving chooparchtar the taste of his own medicine,you can call me insensitive, but i don't know how many has remind of shamsher's beating...yesterday ,there are so many things like mukund's accident or sultan's continous humiliation and i'm not going into madhu's, it was all discussed.

For me its kind of a poetic justice and god has chosen sultan to do it, yes it is very tragic and painful to see sultan behaving in such a manner with madhu, yes what sultan is doing is wrong, but he is still very much with in the limits, except verbal pursuasion and forcefully carrying her and holding her hand and shoulder, he hasn't make any move.

And i'm pretty sure, he'll turn around, he'll set madhu free,otherwise there is no difference between him and the supermoon.And how will he come back to his senses, is interesting to watch.


I agree that it's such poetic justice that Sultan is giving it back to RK.

Sultan still hasn't fallen anywhere near the level of RK, but even though he hasn't what he's doing with Madhu is still not excusable. There better be some good reason behind his actions.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: mocking_bird

He surely has a reason and we will get to see that too in upcoming episodes. May be we will get back our Sultan once Madhu goes and stays with him.

As of now, I enjoy this new avtaar of sultan because, AR has taken the character to a different height altogether and though I do not approve of his approach,I surely clap for the fabulous performance.


Well said, Suks. Though Madhu's going and staying with him is problematic, depending on how or why she does it. Not interested in another 'zabardasti' marriage. Women aren't objects or ping pongs.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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After watching the episodes since Sultan came back aka last Sat Highest TRP wala and bearing in mind the changes we saw in him from the day he expressed his love till date...I am forced to believe that the Guy is up to something and it's NOT MADHU... YES I REPEAT NOT MADHU...Maybe it's connected to her, but it's not her... Lets face it if he wanted to make Madhu his, he would have accomplished it by now and his Gangster Status makes it easier for him and to get away with it. But nope he is not aiming at that.

When ever I see Madhu-Sultan interaction...Apart from the fact that they set the screen ablaze (Avishti Rocks) what I see is a Step-By-Step Detoxification Process...In Psychiatry there is a similar Treatment used... Madhu has got this "Anokha Pyaar" blindfold over her eyes, it's clouded her judgement and actions and she stopped being Madhubala ... The only way to make her see the Truth is, if the Truth plays right in front of her... and when she won't allow him to play it the sane way, the best way a man like him could and would come up with is to talk her language, the language of Junoon...so that it falls on her Tympanic Membrane for sure this time and registers in her brain.

Everytime he associates Madhu with Tumhara RK, he makes sure the sentence ends with Meri Madhu, which makes her cringe but probes her to think...Like i said there is a similar treatment in Psych...It's like you push the person to such a extreme that he/she gives up on the Zidd they have held on to...Here Madhu adamant about their love and it's power, but the same can't be said for R...While Madhu keeps telling that their love will conquer all, R keeps taking steps to keep her away...Why can't he too come up with the faith that their Love can conquer all...simply because for the Crimanal Turned Chooperstar it's all about I, Me, Myself...


Sultan keeps challenging Madhu...He tells her to meet him in private but her desperate attempts to set the Monster aka R free leads to Sultan getting alert on seeing the Police and thus fleeing... He talks to her in the that deserted house but all she keeps chanting is the R-Mantra and their love this that etc...again Sultan challenges her... He keeps Pushing Madhu to the extent that she is forced to think otherwise, which in this case will be his break through...He is waiting for that... He asked Madhu he decision on the Divorce and she starts with the whole love, Bhagwaan is with them kinda crap...Result he gets R thrashed...he just proved to Madhu that the extent to which he can go is not limited but the extent to which she can go is indeed limited.

Sultan sure has an agenda, a motive... and It definitely has got to do with getting the Anokha Pyaar wala bhoot out of her system, before the actual agenda crops up...Woh kya hai I guess we'll have to wait, but the whole Madhu seeing the reality is just the surface...Bohat kuch hai jo iske peeche hai...

Either it's that or the CV's is busy GLORIFYING the Anokha Pyaar...

I agree the means which the CV's has incorporated that of Showing Sultan as Pro-R is not exactly what we want...but I somehow feel that there is a selfish sadism behind that move...but kuch jhol toh zaroor hai..

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Lets rewind shall we...While there is no reasoning as to why they changed Sultan overnight...Made his fight for his Mom, fight for Madhu...but still if we were to tread even the slightest possible way what would it be? There has to be a loop connecting all shouldn't there???

Madhu knew the truth? The truth about Meera and Sultan and bearing everything in mind, all that Sultan had to go through he would have expected his friend to stand up for the truth, if not for him per se...But instead she goes on a spree of safe guarding R's false beliefs and aura...

Remember his words to her? Those who step into the R-Mansion should leave their compassion and heart outside the very doors of the mansion and that she Madhu has changed... Wasn't it true...Wife of R or not, She did not show the basic courtesy of listening out to him...If you looks carefully she was kinda angry and blasted at him for putting her Hubby and her Family in such a spot...

Every time he expects Madhu to stand up for the truth which in this case coincides with Sultan being on that side...She turns her back...

1) He comes forward to talk to R on Madhu's request but R double crosses and when Sultan brings it out, she puts on a show at first but then does her dying spirit of fighting for truth, justice, staying by her principle gets tossed out of the Window...

2) At every path possible she tries to make Sultan feel that he is the wrong one...

3) Radha tells truth to Madhu, the two meet Sultan, Radha turns back on her words, Madhu is stunned but does she do something about it no...

This is the woman who stood up for truth and justice but failed miserably when it comes to R and his injustice be it to her, her family or Sultan in this case...

Madhu is the one actually feeding R's ego... The only way to break that is to break them apart and make her see the reality right?

I know it's a long shot par it's possible right?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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OMG...OMG...OMG i wasnt expecting ny sulbala scn today most i expected anothr phone call to mb BUT BUT BUT cvs KILLED US today by sending SULTAN AS A DOC first it was a HANDSUM JEWELLER then NAUGHTY DRIVER n now SMOKING SEXY DOCTOR i literally skipped a few heartbeats when they showed avis SEXY face with specs outside the door why did he had to remove the glasses so early i hv noticed that AVI LOOKED AMAZINGLY HANDSUM in the rimless specs first as a jeweller BUT TODAY WAS A BIT TOO HOT MAN i stopped breathing when sultan cornered her a bit beside the door issshhh
the height diff...the chemistry between avishti is to DIE FOR
looks like madhu mam ko kuch akal ayi
she videoed sultan
n rk also seem to b awake while sulbala was tkting as in precap it seemed so
also seems like mb is FAKE DIVORCING sultan n will b successful in getting rk out
BUT ITS NOT SO EASY TO IGNORE OUR DEVA DEVA
i m glad cvs r showing mb to fight bk n use sum senses instead of listening to sultan with teary eyes always
game is only FUN when both sides r playing
coz that way we can again see HOW SULTAN OUTSMARTS HER the way he did in the fish market
tab maaza ayega
so common mb do whatever u can to save the anokha pyaar
we r also FULL ARMED on the opposition side
DEVA DEVA
some one PLZZZ POST CAPS ASAP
I will hv to drool on the pics the whole night
LUVED AVIS ACTING TODAY AS WELL
the dialogues by raghu sir r KADAK
n the way avi delivers it is even MORE KADAK
STILL I CANT GET OVER THE SEXY DOCTOR AVATAR of sultan today
AVINESH IS INDEED VERY VERY HANDSUM
nd the smirk...hayeee
guys do tweeet him @rekhi911 HOW MUCH WE R LUVED THE DOC avatar of his n ask him to wear specs more often
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Raja, great post. Will respond in depth later when I get a chance.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Once again, much of what RK did falls under sexual harassment. Just because he didn't do anything with her, doesn't mean what he did is not sexual harassment.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Rajla, yeah his methods do seem to be showing the mirror to Madhu and taking the blindfold off her. But at this point, how is it going to take her blindfolds off through these methods? He is making unwanted advances, harassing her, intimidating her, etc, etc. Any of that is just bound to make the woman disgusted and forget of all RK has done.

Also, is this the way to get her divorced? What is this, the woman cannot realize on her own, and want a divorce herself? So they have to make her 'forcibly divorced' and then she can see her husbands' true nature?

I think family has that right to an extent--I mean to try to make a woman come out of a relationship. Maybe even friends. But what Sultan is doing, how are his methods and actions justifiable just because the end result will be that Madhu will get divorced and may finally see RK for what he is.
Edited by likarsh - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Amazing post Liks!!

I have always maintained that the idea of two alpha dogs fighting over a woman as if she was a bone to be possessed had always seemed distasteful to me. When I started watching the show, I was promised a strong, dynamic, central female character who will mould her own destiny. Instead I got something far worse than the average TV show doormat because I doubt anyone else has put up with a husband as awful as RK.

When Sultan's character was being developed, it held hope that the CVs of this show are capable of creating a character who is respectful to a woman and her space, and believes her to be capable of independent thought and action. For the vast majority of his time on this show, Sultan gave Madhu something that RK never, ever did - RESPECT.

I've watched in dismay as in the last few episodes, the CVs of this show have tried to imbue some RK like qualities in Sultan. Please pay attention - I said I'm dismayed because they are trying to turn Sultan into another RK and that is not acceptable.

With this move, barring Shamsher, they've created the most distasteful set of male characters on any Hindi TV show. I hope the CVs are not as irredeemable as this and that is why I would like to believe that Sultan's actions have a reason.

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