Episode 319 Discussion: 9th July 2013 - Page 2

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Posted: 12 years ago
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The rm song seq is filmy but the song why this song its lyrics n new montage r cvs hinting mus increases btwn rm n seperation on cards as the same old montage shown n unwed happened.dips might ve secured her future in deal as its diff to ve any type of deal with rads now at the condition dips is now.seems dips want no one must get if she didnt get rk n just on n on after madhu.dips lost it.as rads said all must bear the heat of revealing it to rk but truth cant be hide n oneday they ve to face it who r inwat way it comes out.so its sultan at door not rk.he came for kangan.where might be kangan n I conducted poll on it before.as rads-dips scene going no one as suddenly dips called sikky came in secs haha listening their talks r wat.servants still didnt on inverter n didnt come also.no security no one in superstar house seems rk already in debts r wat.rm can live in studio r wooden house peacefully by living rk mansion to rk's parents second families 😆 does sultan see the photo n night discussion n next morning in paper who might done it so fast deepali r sultan.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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A episode designed to reel in viewers...not sure how far it succeeded
1)Rishbala- Madhu decides to manao RK on an ominous old song. The song seemed an odd choice given the circumstances but then Rishbala 's life is going to change from next day onwards (starting with the gundas making their appearance tomorrow) so this is indeed their last chance to enjoy tension-free romance. Madhu's 5 minute speech preceding the romance was boring...if half of what she was trying to convey in her speech was reflected in her actions...we would have epic romance. Anyways...I am going to continue to hope. Except for few shots...the hug with Madhu sighing contently, couple descending the stairs in each others arms, RK's smirk in rain with shayari ...the scene failed to make an impact...I am not sure if it was Madhu's insistence to keep out of rain, the way scene was shot, my general disconnect with Madhu or the fact that the couple did not seem committed in some shots that failed to stir up the magic. Almost all the songs until now were smartly used...there was radio, cellphone or something else that provided the music...or RK used his natural voice...this is the first time that I could not make out if Madhu was singing or she had used a device in background...she is lip syncing first couple of minutes but in some shots ...she does not do that. Infact it seemed like some thing that was cobbled together in a hurry. It is unfortunate that I was not able to savor this moment of uninhibited romance given that we are moving back in drama territory later in the week.
2)Dips- She gets her own shout out from me today...I have been cribbing last couple of episodes that I don't understand her motivation...I don't understand her torturing Radha or getting RK in trouble given that she should have no reason to hate them. Today her actions clarified her motivation...She hates Madhu with a vengeance...so much so that it has become her entire world. The lady demanded humiliation for Madhu when she could have asked for riches...that is very telling. She feels insulted and somehow stuck in a place from where she is unable to get out. While she probably thought RK was justified to some extent in humiliating her...Madhu had no such right. She wants to pull Madhu down so much that she is ready to punish anyone and everyone who stands with her including Radha and RK. Kill me for saying this but I think Madhu bought it on herself to some extent...Madhu has had a holier than thou attitude that she discards when it suits her...while everyone else has been blind to it or have forgiven her...Dips has not because she has had to bear the brunt of it. She alone has been a witness to Madhu's straight faced lies and manipulation. While the common opinion is that she will be gone after this track...I tend to disagree...she will not rest until she has brought Madhu down...she will do anything to get there including cutting deals with Sultan or Bhujang. It was hilarious to see her expressions when Radha refused to negotiate...now that is what I call acting...is Sultan taking notes?
3)Radha- Radha once again proved she is RK's mom. You give in to a blackmailer and he will return for more. Besides it should be obvious to Radha that she cannot keep this secret from RK long. Madhu is sympathetic to Meera's cause, Dips has a proof and is out to blackmail while she herself is feeling guilty, Sultan is determined to dig up the past and seems to consider RM to be public park and drops in whenever urge strikes him. Sooner or later someone is going to slip up and RK will find out. She wants to keep it away from him for as long as she can but she is out of time. Loved the way she refuses to agree to Dips.
4)Sultan- Was it just me or did he seem sick...he looked oddly dazed and out of focus. Wonder what is going on there? Was it the actor or the character? So he sees the photo but it is dark...Will he recognize the lady in it? Is it him who will get that photo printed? Why did Dips let him walk out with it...why did she not wrestle and tear it? We will find out soon enough.
The montage has changed and the forum is running amok with speculation regarding it. My take is very simple- The other montage was generating a negative vibe amongst the viewers...it implied that Madhu had to make a choice but in all honesty Madhu had already thrown her lot with RK emotionally, morally and socially when she married him and gave him her heart. A wife's duty is to stand by her husband more so when he is not in wrong but is himself a victim. Forcing or pressuring him to pay for his father's sins regardless of wrong/right indicate a breakdown of sanctity of marriage and that is unacceptable from every perspective. The latest montage shows Rishbala looking at each other with admiration and gives out positive vibes that they will stand by each other as it should be. I have no idea why they had to put up that montage for barely a week before the unwedding. I am still a little confused by that.
The damage to the show is pretty extensive at this point in time and there is no quick fix...If the powers that be really want to build back the viewer base...they will need to focus on a strong storyline or track that indicates the strength of Rishbala marriage and clarifies Madhu's priorities beyond any doubt. Romance will not cut it nor will flowery dialogues...they have to go slow and steady one step at a time starting with Madhu giving back to Sultan.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: dramacrazy12

A episode designed to reel in viewers...not sure how far it succeeded


Absolutely agree with each and everything you said!

The song and the preceding scene - I felt somewhat of a disconnect too - it felt like Madhu and RK are not on the same emotional page. And I think I read somewhere that DD was asked by the channel to avoid getting wet in the rain (for JDJ), but in that case, the rain scene could have been directed and acted a little differently.

I am confused at this stage what to read out of the tea leaves of the montage. In any case, will wait to watch today's episode, to see whether it continues or they revert. If its just the two of them, then we can be assured that the focus is at least ostensibly on the couple. As well it should be.

You are 100% correct when you say that the damage to the show is pretty extensive at this stage, and it will be hard to build back the viewer base. I feel like the issue right now is beyond Sultan. It's about Madhu also now. The viewers who are left will not tolerate a Madhu who does not prioritize her vulnerable and loving husband over anything else.


Edited by river123 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: river123


Absolutely agree with each and everything you said!

The song and the preceding scene - I felt somewhat of a disconnect too - it felt like Madhu and RK are not on the same emotional page. And I think I read somewhere that DD was asked by the channel to avoid getting wet in the rain (for JDJ), but in that case, the rain scene could have been directed and acted a little differently.


we will feel the disconnect as Madhu was just "acting"..she's disturbed , she wants to share her pain but couldn't do it, for that moment, she wanted to manofy RK...it was somewhat fake right?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_


we will feel the disconnect as Madhu was just "acting"..she's disturbed , she wants to share her pain but couldn't do it, for that moment, she wanted to manofy RK...it was somewhat fake right?


I'll buy that. I had also in my review alluded to that. However, I felt like the disconnect was slightly disturbing. Hopefully there will not be more of those in the future i.e., post revelation. Because if there is, the show is really in trouble.




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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: dramacrazy12

The damage to the show is pretty extensive at this point in time and there is no quick fix...If the powers that be really want to build back the viewer base...they will need to focus on a strong storyline or track that indicates the strength of Rishbala marriage and clarifies Madhu's priorities beyond any doubt. Romance will not cut it nor will flowery dialogues...they have to go slow and steady one step at a time starting with Madhu giving back to Sultan.


  • Agreed with your entire post. The damage is extensive, the fact that Rji knew makes the whole thing irreversible. Small mercies, I am relieved that Madhu was not involved in telling RK ...my fear was that Rji would backtrack, and feign ignorance. That possibility has been closed. Yes, RM will still face issues, no doubt.
  • About the RM scene, I think they used a BD for some parts of the song. Somehow, the whole scene seemed rushed and hence left no impact. RM scenes are literally lollypops, they know they need to keep showing such mandatory scenes. But it does'nt have to be so badly executed. And at the end of the day, viewers are not necessarily wanting a SR like scene everyday. They want to see the commitment that comes through with the kind of junooni love that they share. If the commitment is absent, people are not going to stick around.
  • i agree with you about the montage, again a last minute change. the familiar 'bait and watch' trick', they have done it too often, and now noone is really bothered, sad to say.
  • I hope the TRPs dip further this week, till they get the message that most people cannot digest the fact that Madhu will prioritize Meera/Sultan over Radha or RK. That is it, period. Sultan can remain, fight for his rights, no problem. I keep mentioning this because in case the CVs read these posts, they understand that it is not about Team A vs Team B😡,like they keep insisting in their polls.
  • There is absolutely nothing that RK has done to merit SUltan's rage and aggression, except marrying Madhu. It is not his fault that they turned out to be step brothers. And they don't have to fall into each others arms. Needless to say, Madhu will have that kind of expectation
Though this track has pakaoed me so much, now I want madhu to hit Sultan with a chair like Kashish said😆😆


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soundarya22


  • I hope the TRPs dip further this week, till they get the message that most people cannot digest the fact that Madhu will prioritize Meera/Sultan over Radha or RK. That is it, period. Sultan can remain, fight for his rights, no problem. I keep mentioning this because in case the CVs read these posts, they understand that it is not about Team A vs Team B😡,like they keep insisting in their polls.

@ bold: I think they (the channel, and CVs - including RS) truly believe that this is all about the fandom wars. Which is really short-sighted. They've had week after week of dropping ratings - I wonder how they justify it to themselves (probably power cuts! IPL! faulty rating system! global warming! etc etc.) BTW - wonder how much of a CV overlap there is between the MB and the PH's other show (dilution of creative energy.) And given that most of last week was fairly blah, hard to imagine that TRPs will be better.

Sorry MAS, going totally off episode content - will just blame it on episode triggered thoughts!

Edited by river123 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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firstly as much as i love the song "lag jaa gale" it did not suit Rishbala..first it was dificult to adjust lata mangeshkar's (if m not wrong) vocals on DD..second d in-depth lyrics dint fit the situation at all

all said Rain romance was gud especially RK's wink n "bolo meri nargis"..i wish we get to see mre of it tomorrow

apart from it for Rji..both the charc and the actor deserve applause!!!

n especially for Bhai "bhaiyyaji koi tym hota hai kisi ke ghar jaaneka..na waqt dekhte ho na mausam na jagah bas muh uthaake chale aate ho..bijali gull hai MBland me to Aryan bechara andhere me darr raha hoga use jaake sambhalo..aagaye andhere me Kangan dhoondhne"

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