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Posted: 12 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: mystic_love

I don't understand why do you people come and comment in this post...listen folks these people will never be satisfied and will always be finding flaws in RK..so that they can justify their GHG's character...which is BULLSHIT!!

@TM why don't you make a list of things which u want to see happening in the show and which shows RK's redemption and send it to ST and the creatives...we will be more than happy with that track than any third person'r track


Because they themselves are CLUELESS😆😆😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#62
So I skimmed over pages and pages of pankhi ramblings to finally get to the end of this thread (and I see MID queen Chakku is back in action!! Yay - that's my girl).

Thank you so much for what you've written Charishma. And if anyone wondered why it is so hard to socially isolate abusive men and motivate women to leave abusive relationships, reading the responses in this thread would be so instructive.

Almost all of these are young women and look what shockingly low expectations they have from men. Apparently the baseline requirements from a man are - must be hawt and rich. Abusive ho to chalega - sorry bol diya na!

They don't even recognize abusive behaviour when it literally pokes them in the eye and leaps out from their TV screens. This unfortunately is the society we are in where women have been convinced of their own inferiority. They truly believe they don't deserve better.

Kya - bended knee pe ho ke sabke saamne sorry bol diya na - ab kya chahiye Madhu ko? Shaadi kar li na usse - ab aur kya chahiye? And like a propah neanderthal man, RK will defend his property oops I mean Madhu against the other aggressive alpha male.

Gauti - if you're peeking into this thread - you're a misogynistic creep for writing this shit but these girls are masochistic for lapping it up. Apna sikka khota ho to koi kisi aur ko kyon dosh de.


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Posted: 12 years ago
#63
Rk Jo bana and Jo kiya wo Uske circumstances the. Sullu Jo karing wo uska apna mann? Wah Wah as usual pankhis adoring their own kinds and appreciating their own kinds. Awesome. Charisma good post. Behes bhi unse karo jinko akal ho charisma. 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#64
Seriously I don't know what to say.

You WANT Rk to be an abuser, to be the villain of the story. Whatever he does you'll see some Machiavellian plan behind it.
I don't know how it's possible to make you understand he's genuine and is trying to change 😳😳
Because whatever we say, you'll stay obstinate and will LIKE to see only the bad side of RK.

Why ?? Because of Sultan. You need to put down RK to make Sultan look better. You want SulBala and it's not possible if RK changes and so you only want to believe that RK is bad !



@ Others : wonderful replies especially Chakku 👏👏😉


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Posted: 12 years ago
#65
Awesome post charisma,👏

These show is actually different where evil is victimized, gains sympathy and glorified and further will called as " redemption'.and goodness is tagged as a offender and subject to hatred.🤢

I had written this one few days back, and repeating same thing here.
i don't understand why cv's are not showing character as they are, why they are manipulating them, go against the character theme, and change the story on a popular demand.


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Posted: 12 years ago
#66

RK's redemption is that he changes his attitude, as and when it happens, it's their problem...what about Bhai's redemption? even that will take many years...in jail...def. not starting grihasti with Madhu...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: _charu_



everybody's parameters of love, respect and selfless love is different..nobody is capable of loving selflessly...can Madhu love RK selflessly? bec. then she will have to sacrifice her "self" and she will be called a doormat ! if RK can clearly see and define that his love is flawed, he could not love Madhu like Madhu loves him, that proves that he is AWARE of his shortcomings ...whatever is missing in their relationship can be worked out between the two of them..he may not be as compassionate as her , he may not trust people...how can the relationship b/w 2 people be perfect when the people involved are not perfect? there will be clashes, there will be differences, one wud try to dominate the other, at some point of time, they may decide to part ways..so what? the underlying truth is that they love each other and if their intentions are pure, this love will always maintain a good balance AND eventually bring them back to each other...

Did you say Sultan "deserves" Madhu more than RK? just bec. RK doesn't know how to "respect" Madhu and Sultan can? is this ALL that is required for a good life ? what about Madhu's wish? what about giving a woman a respectable safe secure future ?



Very well put, Charu👏👏👏

RK as a character is grey, pushing the boundaries of black many times...some ppl are unable to comprehend his complexities, fair enough...but what I really don't understand is the argument that Madhu is a "victim", a "puppet" in the hands of this puppeteer...lol...they both threaten each other in the SAME words...yet it is RK that gets labeled the "abuser"...odd...There is an inherent darkness in this relationship...Madhu has proven time and again that it is that DARKNESS that she is drawn to and fascinated with...that she is masochistic just like RK is for the pain that is part of this relationship...it is a love that makes them bleed and heal in equal parts...and always for EACH OTHER...it is not an idealistic relationship and people looking for idealism in this relationship will never be able to understand it.

If RK was the lone "abuser" "abusing" Madhu in this relationship, Madhu wouldn't be in this relationship...she has been shown clashing with him from day one and hardly ever giving an inch...they are both a constant challenge to each other that they are trying to win...if people here think that RK considers her a "property" then Madhu is no less in her obsession with RK...I guess that is the fundamental point some people are missing...and as Madhu herself very rightly put, other ppl CAN'T understand what RK and Madhu are to each other...it is only these two themselves that can understand that bond b/w them...that desperation for each other, that obsession with each other...it is not a normal, healthy, ideal relationship...but this is their relationship and they know no other way...they are ALIVE when they are with each other.



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Posted: 12 years ago
#68

then according to ur pov ur DP pic vala character also abuser , many time he abused his GF mentaly n physically 😳

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Posted: 12 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: swati1975us

So I skimmed over pages and pages of pankhi ramblings to finally get to the end of this thread (and I see MID queen Chakku is back in action!! Yay - that's my girl).


Thank you so much for what you've written Charishma. And if anyone wondered why it is so hard to socially isolate abusive men and motivate women to leave abusive relationships, reading the responses in this thread would be so instructive.

Almost all of these are young women and look what shockingly low expectations they have from men. Apparently the baseline requirements from a man are - must be hawt and rich. Abusive ho to chalega - sorry bol diya na!

They don't even recognize abusive behaviour when it literally pokes them in the eye and leaps out from their TV screens. This unfortunately is the society we are in where women have been convinced of their own inferiority. They truly believe they don't deserve better.

Kya - bended knee pe ho ke sabke saamne sorry bol diya na - ab kya chahiye Madhu ko? Shaadi kar li na usse - ab aur kya chahiye? And like a propah neanderthal man, RK will defend his property oops I mean Madhu against the other aggressive alpha male.

Gauti - if you're peeking into this thread - you're a misogynistic creep for writing this shit but these girls are masochistic for lapping it up. Apna sikka khota ho to koi kisi aur ko kyon dosh de.


Agreed with everything except the last part. Till now, they've always shown it exactly for what it is. The people who didn't want to see it didn't, but look at the wedding,, at how Madhu was portrayed. That was not a picture of a girl/woman in a healthy relationship. She had little sense of herself even then. The way she was clinging, the desperation--all of that was purposely portrayed. Just as RK's flimsy redemption was weak deliberately.

The question is, however, if they will take the route of showing all that as flimsy and unhealthy by itself, or if they will use Sultan as a catalyst. By itself, it's not a problem to show that these flimsy apologies only last for so long, and that soon enough something will set off the abuser once again. But the problem here is that it will give the impression that all would've been a-okay had it not been for Sultan. This is simply not the case.

And also, they've shown RK's possessiveness and manipulation for a reason. I hope they don't back off. I don't see them backing off from his possessiveness, but they shouldn't back off and wipe away the manipulation we saw during this wedding round.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar



Very well put, Charu👏👏👏

RK as a character is grey, pushing the boundaries of black many times...some ppl are unable to comprehend his complexities, fair enough...but what I really don't understand is the argument that Madhu is a "victim", a "puppet" in the hands of this puppeteer...lol...they both threaten each other in the SAME words...yet it is RK that gets labeled the "abuser"...odd...There is an inherent darkness in this relationship...Madhu has proven time and again that it is that DARKNESS that she is drawn to and fascinated with...that she is masochistic just like RK is for the pain that is part of this relationship...it is a love that makes them bleed and heal in equal parts...and always for EACH OTHER...it is not an idealistic relationship and people looking for idealism in this relationship will never be able to understand it.

If RK was the lone "abuser" "abusing" Madhu in this relationship, Madhu wouldn't be in this relationship...she has been shown clashing with him from day one and hardly ever giving an inch...they are both a constant challenge to each other that they are trying to win...if people here think that RK considers her a "property" then Madhu is no less in her obsession with RK...I guess that is the fundamental point some people are missing...and as Madhu herself very rightly put, other ppl CAN'T understand what RK and Madhu are to each other...it is only these two themselves that can understand that bond b/w them...that desperation for each other, that obsession with each other...it is not a normal, healthy, ideal relationship...but this is their relationship and they know no other way...they are ALIVE when they are with each other.


thanks yaar..where have u been all this while? i missed you 😛 i'm glad my message encouraged you to write something...😆 anyhow, RM relationship is no secret now..Madhu clearly spelt out her relation with RK to the "man" himself...there is no confusion or doubt but if someone chooses to have a tunnel vision, it's their choice...they must be Madhu's true well wishers , demanding respect for her and in the same vein, demanding her SR with Sultan ! preposterous ! and we are delusional fans who love to see her getting abused by the abusive superstar..🤢
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