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Posted: 12 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: _charu_


i was tempted to reply to these...the portion in red, i completely agree..RK's past, his traumatic childhood is no excuse to his current behavior ...but as you must have observed, every person is different..some are egoistic & arrogant than others...a lot of factors are responsible for shaping up the personality of a person..some are genetic, some are gained through experiences of life...even i understand where RK is coming from but i don't approve of it..but then i also understand that no man is perfect..every person makes mistakes , what matters is that he can understand where he went wrong and make amendments..if you think he cannot do it, it's your perspective...i can hate him for his weaknesses but i like him for his qualities which are in abundance ...


everybody's parameters of love, respect and selfless love is different..nobody is capable of loving selflessly...can Madhu love RK selflessly? bec. then she will have to sacrifice her "self" and she will be called a doormat ! if RK can clearly see and define that his love is flawed, he could not love Madhu like Madhu loves him, that proves that he is AWARE of his shortcomings ...whatever is missing in their relationship can be worked out between the two of them..he may not be as compassionate as her , he may not trust people...how can the relationship b/w 2 people be perfect when the people involved are not perfect? there will be clashes, there will be differences, one wud try to dominate the other, at some point of time, they may decide to part ways..so what? the underlying truth is that they love each other and if their intentions are pure, this love will always maintain a good balance AND eventually bring them back to each other...

Did you say Sultan "deserves" Madhu more than RK? just bec. RK doesn't know how to "respect" Madhu and Sultan can? is this ALL that is required for a good life ? what about Madhu's wish? what about giving a woman a respectable safe secure future ?

RK is not a uni dimensional character, you don't like him, that's a matter of personal choice ...if I should ignore that Sultan is involved in criminal activities, i can safely ignore that RK emotionally abuses his people (which is not abuse IMO) and i'll pick RK anyday...a man who can mercilessly kill people without any guilt is far worse than a man who dominates ppl...Watch the old episodes again...Sultan is a "most wanted" criminal & of course all these charges against him were not slapped on him bec. of his samaj seva actitivies...he's no Robinhood..he might be a "principled" man..yes, he refused to smuggle drugs..but he himself admitted that all those who came in the way of his becoming a top notch criminal (Mumbai ka Sultan) were not left alive...just bec. there aren't any evidences against him, and he decided to "change" , doesn't mean he has a clean image...Madhu ne kaha and he changed, decides to drop his career for Madhu's sake, uske baad dono apni grihasti nahi bana sakte..

he's a principled and a morally right character, he can respect women, he's Robinhood? fine...leave all the criminal activities and surrender to the police , pay for all the sins, live a respectable life..better late than never ! sad but true, just bec. he respects women, the law will not spare him? ..



I'm not saying Sultan deserves her more. Its not a competition. And she's not a prize. I believe he knows how to love. And I like him.That's all. People seem to think I like Sulbala because they're an "alternative". No. The reason I like is completely extrinsic to RK. Even if RK could love her the right way, I'd still pick Sultan for her. Because I like the the idea of the two of them more than i ever liked RH and Madhu (which wasn't much). When people asked me for reasons I gave them reasons. But Its not like I sat there with a tally-chart and wrote pros and cons of each guy. I like Sultan better because I think he's where its at for Madhu. I didn't come to that decision from various well-thought comparisons. I just like them better. And I never liked RK. These thoughts on RK were there since the show's start almost.

As far as providing a respectable, safe and secure future. Both guys could do that. Each in different ways though. Like I said sometimes its not about comparisons. It just boils down to what you like.

Madhu's wishes do matter. If she doesn't want to go somewhere, she won't go. No need to handcuff her. My problem with the current track is people's insistence that Madhu couldn't be happier. Wait and watch I guess.

I don't know why people are obsessing over Sultan's gangser status. Malik was a gangster right? You can leave that life behind. Like everyone else has been saying to me, people deserve second chances. I guess that only applies if you're RK. Then you get multiple second chances.

Who said anything about the law sparing him? If anything that is further story to explore. I'm actually looking forward to the law catching up to him. Why should that be a deterrence?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: _charu_


thanks yaar..where have u been all this while? i missed you 😛 i'm glad my message encouraged you to write something...😆 anyhow, RM relationship is no secret now..Madhu clearly spelt out her relation with RK to the "man" himself...there is no confusion or doubt but if someone chooses to have a tunnel vision, it's their choice...they must be Madhu's true well wishers , demanding respect for her and in the same vein, demanding her SR with Sultan ! preposterous ! and we are delusional fans who love to see her getting abused by the abusive superstar..🤢



LOL I've been a bit busy but I do read the EDT from time to time to read you guys ke reviews :-) Forum is crazier than ever I see😆...sometimes it doesn't seem worth the energy to expend trying to reason SENSE here...I guess your post made me want to say something so thanks for that too :-)

Tunnel vision is SO the word...haha I said the same in a previous thread too...see what I appreciate about RK is his HONESTY regarding everything INCLUDING his own shortcomings...it would be nice if Sultan fans could atleast be honest about their motivations for coming up with imaginary labelings for RK...the fact that they like Sultan, simple enough...just for that reason, they've IMAGINED a whole ALTERNATE version of this show that it seems only they are watching...lol...I thought that is what fan-fiction was for...instead endless threads are made about what the writers are supposedly showing vis a vis an "abusive" relationship that us "delusional" people are lapping up😆😆


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Posted: 12 years ago
#73


RK's genuineness is iffy for me. Because of my very obvious bias. Thanks for your reply. Some have been less than civil. I have been watching the show since day one. I stopped when RK and Madhu got all in love though. It seems really off to me. Problem is I was never an RK fan to begin with. And I didn't believe his love. So when unwedding drama happened I came back. Regarding her working for him throughout, I guess we see that whole process differently.

I called Madhu a khatputli because that is what the title the show was at one point. I don't know if it was a working title or if had been finalized. But yes, it is about a relationship in which she dances to his tune. Do you remember the promo where they have music box ballerina music playing? And he spins her exactly as the toy ballerina would spin?
Edited by Charishma - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#74
Did I miss anything in the show,..when was MALIK shown as gangster ...?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: armummy

Did I miss anything in the show,..when was MALIK shown as gangster ...?



LOL I guess stuntman = GANGSTER in this alternate reality version of MEIEJ😆
Edited by AreYaar - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: armummy

Did I miss anything in the show,..when was MALIK shown as gangster ...?


This is what happens when people try to analyse characters like RK after starting to watch the show post the new entry😛

I guess it is useless to debate with the TM if she hasn't travelled along with us in RK's journey😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: armummy



AR, you haven't missed anything ... it is just some people who wish to see something just as they want, just like they can't see further than RK being a psycho ... Malik tried to take revenge on RK and tried to shoot him ... so he becomes a gangster in TM's eyes. What does that make Sultan who successfully killed many and is still pursuing his criminal business? And the same people can talk about the Don giving up his gangster ways but can never imagine or accept RK changing himself to adapt to Madhu's needs. RK's love isn't love, but that gangu's love is divine coming right from the Himalayas!!!

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Posted: 12 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: CHAKKU_DAAYAN

Thanks everyone🤗

I got more replies than the TM😆😆😆

I agree with everyone.





I'll it once, and I'll say it again. Its not about comparisons. I like Sultan. I dislike RK. But despite the cv's obvious polarizations, I don't like Sultan because I dislike RK. The two are independent of one another.

And yes, yes yes yes, listening to the woman you claim to love is very important.

Love is not selfish. Nope. Its not.

Sultan never confessed to Madhu. Don't know what you're talking about.

RK doesn't need to change for Madhu because Madhu didn't change for him? That logic doesn't work. But that's a moot point, because Madhu has changed for him. Or did you not the the family oriented girl laugh and smile at a wedding that her family had no intention of coming to? She's sacrificed a lot for him. So yeah.

I laugh at the gangster criticism. Its a point of drama, not a reason to push him aside. Keep on picking at straws though.
Edited by Charishma - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#79

Originally posted by: AreYaar



LOL I guess stuntman = GANGSTER in this alternate reality version of MEIEJ😆



LOL ... weird definitions we see around here.

hey AY, where have you been? Missed you. Good to see you here.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#80

Originally posted by: Charishma



I don't know why people are obsessing over Sultan's gangser status. Malik was a gangster right? You can leave that life behind. Like everyone else has been saying to me, people deserve second chances. I guess that only applies if you're RK. Then you get multiple second chances.

Who said anything about the law sparing him? If anything that is further story to explore. I'm actually looking forward to the law catching up to him. Why should that be a deterrence?


charisma, malik was a stuntman, fightmaster

@red, i agree with you, i would like to see whether cv's will explore this angle of the story or not.

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