'What If' - Page 12

Originally posted by: Charishma

Sunflower, you're talking about psychopaths. There is a huge amount of grey area between a psychopathic serial killer (the likes of J Dahmer) and an abusive person. Although RK's lack of empathy is indicative of more serious psychological issues, lets leave that aside for a bit.

I am not saying RK is a killer, or an angry aggressive man out for blood or a brawl. I am saying he is emotionally abusive towards Madhu (within their relationship). And there is an established pattern of abuse between the two of them. As for his past relationships, we don't know if he was like this in any of them. Even if he wasn't, that hardly matters.

Do you remember the scene where he admits to being emotionally abusive though? Or was that just him saying sorry for all the pain he caused her?

Originally posted by: Charishma

RK's genuineness is iffy for me. Because of my very obvious bias. Thanks for your reply. Some have been less than civil. I have been watching the show since day one. I stopped when RK and Madhu got all in love though. It seems really off to me. Problem is I was never an RK fan to begin with. And I didn't believe his love. So when unwedding drama happened I came back. Regarding her working for him throughout, I guess we see that whole process differently.

I called Madhu a khatputli because that is what the title the show was at one point. I don't know if it was a working title or if had been finalized. But yes, it is about a relationship in which she dances to his tune. Do you remember the promo where they have music box ballerina music playing? And he spins her exactly as the toy ballerina would spin?

Originally posted by: Charishma

@sunflower: you're working off of one typology of an abuser. He's not going to kill Madhu or anyone else in some quest to deal with his childhood pain. What you're describing is a highly physically abusive relationship, but RK is emotionally abusive.

Even if I were to watch that one episode with full intent to conclude that I believe him, all the other moments where he's manipulated her still remain. Am I to go back and watch everything with that purpose? There are too many. A pattern.
Bias will colour vision. And my bias does. Past shapes you, it doesn't excuse you. I'm not about to view RK, the adult, the grown man who is surrounded by love, in any other light. He has all the opportunity and advantage in the world to grow if he wants too. Just wait and watch I guess. If cv's are trying to show his growth with this track, then I guess he's growing.

Originally posted by: CHAKKU_DAAYAN

ABUSER!!😳

Hell yeah, in Rishbala's relationship, RK has abused Madhu emotionally while she has been the PHYSICAL abuser. I don't know what makes you think that Madhu can't overcome the pain of RK's revenge? She is HAPPY with him and he is trying change himself. Isn't it a sign of redemption?

He went ahead for a public apology being that EGOISTIC and SELFISH superstar, isn't it a part of his redemption?

And lastly, aren't ABUSERS human beings? And before calling RK an abuser, atleast see what made him like that.

Sultan lost his parents during his childhood and he chose the path of crime, so he is GOOD👏 But mind you, he was never betrayed by anyone. His wife died because of his fault in an accident.

RK saw his father hanging himself, he saw his mother neglecting him and marrying another man just after his dad's death and his LOVER left him for green pasture. What makes you think that even after all this he would RESPECT women? Atleast NOW he is TRYING! So why can't we feel bad for him?

Mohan Kundra is the only untainted memory with him and he is dearly ATTACHED to his father. Now even that memory is gonna be TAINTED soon. What is RK's fault in all this?

If he is INSECURE, if he is an ABUSER, is he is disrespectful, then that is because the people in his life, have always BETRAYED him at every point. Even after so many heartbreaks if that man is standing today, then hats off to him. Atleast he didn't choose a shortcut like Sultan and become a criminal. Atleast he isn't sitting idle at home like Sikky!

RK is BAD, but the same RK is feeding so many people at his AASHRAM like MANSION. Isn't it a good trait in him?

Originally posted by: CHAKKU_DAAYAN

<font color="#006600">ABUSER!!😳</font>

<font color="#006600">Hell yeah, in Rishbala's relationship, RK has abused Madhu emotionally while she has been the PHYSICAL abuser. I don't know what makes you think that Madhu can't overcome the pain of RK's revenge? She is HAPPY with him and he is trying change himself. Isn't it a sign of redemption?</font>

<font color="#006600">He went ahead for a public apology being that EGOISTIC and SELFISH superstar, isn't it a part of his redemption?</font>

<font color="#006600">And lastly, aren't ABUSERS human beings? And before calling RK an abuser, atleast see what made him like that.</font>

<font color="#006600">Sultan lost his parents during his childhood and he chose the path of crime, so he is GOOD👏 But mind you, he was never betrayed by anyone. His wife died because of his fault in an accident.</font>

<font color="#006600">RK saw his father hanging himself, he saw his mother neglecting him and marrying another man just after his dad's death and his LOVER left him for green pasture. What makes you think that even after all this he would RESPECT women? Atleast NOW he is TRYING! So why can't we feel bad for him?</font>

<font color="#006600">Mohan Kundra is the only untainted memory with him and he is dearly ATTACHED to his father. Now even that memory is gonna be TAINTED soon. What is RK's fault in all this? </font>

<font color="#006600">If he is INSECURE, if he is an ABUSER, is he is disrespectful, then that is because the people in his life, have always BETRAYED him at every point. Even after so many heartbreaks if that man is standing today, then hats off to him. Atleast he didn't choose a shortcut like Sultan and become a criminal. Atleast he isn't sitting idle at home like Sikky!</font>

<font color="#006600">RK is BAD, but the same RK is feeding so many people at his AASHRAM like MANSION. Isn't it a good trait in him?</font>

Originally posted by: Charishma

@bold: I was reminded in numerous posts that RK had deigned to apologize to lowly Madhu. It was wonderfully romantic that such a superstar would do such a thing. *swoon*

I'm loosing my mind responding to these posts. This over-zealous phangirling says so much. Some pankhi probably red-listed my topic. So now they're all hear to defend their Lord and Master. GH needs one tight slap.

Originally posted by: swati1975us

I see someone here who was a humongous pankhi of the lead character in another Colors show. Guess what his profession was - well, hello - he was a gangster too! 😉 But apparently then our friend wasn't revolted by gangsters the way she is now. Waqt waqt ki baat hai.