'What If' - Page 10

Originally posted by: CHAKKU_DAAYAN

<font color="#006600">@Red - From next time put a disclaimer that your post is ONLY for Sultan fans. I thought that you made this post for DISCUSSION and that is what we were having till now, weren't we?😆😆😆</font>

Originally posted by: likarsh

Agreed with everything except the last part. Till now, they've always shown it exactly for what it is. The people who didn't want to see it didn't, but look at the wedding,, at how Madhu was portrayed. That was not a picture of a girl/woman in a healthy relationship. She had little sense of herself even then. The way she was clinging, the desperation--all of that was purposely portrayed. Just as RK's flimsy redemption was weak deliberately.

The question is, however, if they will take the route of showing all that as flimsy and unhealthy by itself, or if they will use Sultan as a catalyst. By itself, it's not a problem to show that these flimsy apologies only last for so long, and that soon enough something will set off the abuser once again. But the problem here is that it will give the impression that all would've been a-okay had it not been for Sultan. This is simply not the case.

And also, they've shown RK's possessiveness and manipulation for a reason. I hope they don't back off. I don't see them backing off from his possessiveness, but they shouldn't back off and wipe away the manipulation we saw during this wedding round.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL I guess stuntman = GANGSTER in this alternate reality version of MEIEJ😆

Originally posted by: sunflower52

In these forums, some tend to use this word 'ABUSE', loosely without understanding the specifics behind that word. So here are some points that might enlighten what really abuse means.

1) Emotional abuse is such that the victim's often do not realize they are being abused.

2) Also the abuser does not feel remorse or guilt. They do not even admit what they are doing is wrong.

3) There is always a pattern the abuser leaves and show in his past relationships.

All these signs are not shown in this show. As Madhu was aware of the fact that RK has humiliated her and has fought for her self respect countless times. Madhu is a lot stronger then some are giving credit her for.

But I see those symptoms as being present. I don't know about the 3rd. But all of RK's current relationships illustrate it for me. I know what abusive means. Trust me. And I know this guy is abusive.

Its not so much the betrayals that make me think he's abusive. Its they very clear emotional manipulation.

RK has already shown remorse and guilt for giving heart ache to Madhu.

Does his guilt stem from hurting her, or hurting her and having to deal with the consequence (i.e.: she leaves him). I didn't see this guilt before Sultan came into the picture.

When he was with Deepali, he never showed he was emotionally abusive with her.

We don't know that do we? Deepali and his relationship pre-dated the show.

The point is this all started with his mom, he was a child who had not really gotten over the fact seeing his father hanging by the fan on his birthday.

Then he felt his mom betrayed him by marrying so soon, that too a man like Kuku Bhatia.

Deepali entered his life and he thought will get the love, but no she also betrayed him by marrying his step brother, why for money.

That was the breaking point for RK and he became what we saw in beginning a man who did not trust women.

Madhu had to struggle just to make him believe not all women are like Deepali and it's okay to love again.

What RK is afraid of is betrayal. Everyone is different when it comes to dealing with pain and betrayal.

I've already addressed how I view his past. But i'll repeat, I sympathize with the boy he was, but I don't excuse the man he is. I understand him. But I still don't think he and Madhu should be together.

The only thing that came close was the unwedding, which RK said was for revenge.

What about everything he did to Madhu before that? Intial 4 pheras marriage. Breaking off Mukund engagement. Getting her fired. Ruining her reputation in the public eye. Just because he didn't "love" her back then doesn't mean it doesn't count.

Those who abuse do not even admit the fact that they are abusing.
When has RK admitted to being her abuser? He admitted to wronging her, but I don't remember him saying he was emotionally abusive towards her. Even if he did, that doesn't change anything. The point is such behaviour needs to stop.

Thank you for the post 😃. This is what I wanted when I first posted this topic.

Originally posted by: N.bhavna

charisma, malik was a stuntman, fightmaster

@red, i agree with you, i would like to see whether cv's will explore this angle of the story or not.

Originally posted by: Charishma

RK's genuineness is iffy for me. Because of my very obvious bias. Thanks for your reply. Some have been less than civil. I have been watching the show since day one. I stopped when RK and Madhu got all in love though. It seems really off to me. Problem is I was never an RK fan to begin with. And I didn't believe his love. So when unwedding drama happened I came back. Regarding her working for him throughout, I guess we see that whole process differently.

I called Madhu a khatputli because that is what the title the show was at one point. I don't know if it was a working title or if had been finalized. But yes, it is about a relationship in which she dances to his tune. Do you remember the promo where they have music box ballerina music playing? And he spins her exactly as the toy ballerina would spin?