Episode 266 Discussion: 8th May 2013

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Angeena

@Angeena

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Posted: 12 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: _charu_
agree with you MM and Puja 👏 this had to happen one day..and worse is yet to come..but when will Madhu understand? she's looking at it from her POV only which is a problem ! she doesn't have any feelings for Sultan , she didn't invite him, so she was disgusted with RK's allegations..but what about Sultan? when will she realize that he's harboring feelings for her which is more than friendship? there are lakhs and crores of females in distress , why is he only interested to protect Madhu? and what about RK? what else is he gonna infer when he saw them as one happy family together on holi?? when he saw Sultan showing concern for Madhu and Madhu not reacting to him showing pistol to RK? when he saw them meeting secretly ?? and now he's here in the party for what reason??

She sees it as concern for a friend. Madhu does a lot for those she cares deeply about so she probably sees Sultan's reactions normal. Also, Sultan said this is for saving his life .. that is the reason he is doing all this, according to Madhu. She won't see it as anything more unless he confesses to her that he loves her.

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ClosetRomantic

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Posted: 12 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: _charu_

CR, i felt the presence of audience was irrelevant..the effect wud have been the same..Madhu was humiliated...but since the audience were present, i think RK was insulted more than Sultan and Madhu...he's completely unaffected by all of it and by now, the film fraternity, his family , friends, all must be used to his nautanki...this is a regular scene for them...kuch acha kuch bura, kuch sach kuch jhoot , RK's dialogues were a mixture of all of them...Sultan did come to protect Madhu and who's she? a stranger , she's married and she has her husband with her, then why did Sultan come to the party knowing that it will not go well with RK and it'll create an embarrassing situation for Madhu??

if RK didn't trust Madhu, he wouldn't have trusted her later on and kicked out Dipali as per the spoilers...

ETA I'm scared to think what might have happened if the audience were not present..may be worse than this...

First let me thank you for your earlier review. Made me feel so much better 😊 I will watch the episode again with your perspective and maybe I will enjoy it this time.

About RK's behaviour, I would have felt just as disgusted if he had done the same to Deepali instead of Madhu. A man who raises a finger at his wife's character in front of outsiders (even if it is true) is a fallen man in my opinion. I had felt angry with Madhu for the same reason when she had done that pooja drama - she made of tamaasha of her own family issues in front of outsiders. The sanctity of a marriage or a family is to be upheld by all family members.

We can blame Madhu or Sultan or even Deepali all we like. But it is RK who crossed all limits today. A man who goes from whispering sweet-nothings to his wife to publicly humiliating her in a matter of minutes is not fit to be in a relationship. Will his wife have to live with fear all her life that he can blow up anytime at a perceived slight and humiliate her in front of people again and again?

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Meenu

@river123

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Posted: 12 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: _charu_

agree with you MM and Puja 👏 this had to happen one day..and worse is yet to come..but when will Madhu understand? she's looking at it from her POV only which is a problem ! she doesn't have any feelings for Sultan , she didn't invite him, so she was disgusted with RK's allegations..but what about Sultan? when will she realize that he's harboring feelings for her which is more than friendship? there are lakhs and crores of females in distress , why is he only interested to protect Madhu? and what about RK? what else is he gonna infer when he saw them as one happy family together on holi?? when he saw Sultan showing concern for Madhu and Madhu not reacting to him showing pistol to RK? when he saw them meeting secretly ?? and now he's here in the party for what reason??

@bold - this is why I had a problem with the public humiliation - it is totally useless, because Madhu is not going to be introspecting and wondering what role she herself had to play in this. She is going to look at this from the perspective of herself being blameless in this. So then who does it really hurt?

Of course, I would love it if as a result of today, Madhu actually takes a hard look at her own actions and the repercussions on other people (both RK and Sultan.)

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dramacrazy12

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Posted: 12 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: Angeena

She sees it as concern for a friend. Madhu does a lot for those she cares deeply about so she probably sees Sultan's reactions normal. Also, Sultan said this is for saving his life .. that is the reason he is doing all this, according to Madhu. She won't see it as anything more unless he confesses to her that he loves her.

Regardless Angeena...she should sense that her relationship with her friend is making her husband uneasy and so she needs to restrict it. The boundaries and acceptability of relationships changes before and after marraige. Can she hangout with Sultan until midnight without any social consequences...(and she has)? The way I see it ...it is less of Sultan's fault and more of Madhu's . Sultan is just taking a cue from her behaviour.

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Charu

@Krinya

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Posted: 12 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: Angeena
She sees it as concern for a friend. Madhu does a lot for those she cares deeply about so she probably sees Sultan's reactions normal. Also, Sultan said this is for saving his life .. that is the reason he is doing all this, according to Madhu. She won't see it as anything more unless he confesses to her that he loves her.

but Angee what's the harm in saying a simple "please stay out of it, you're creating more problems for me, i can handle it on my own " ! can't she say this to a "friend"? and since she's so comfortable with RK , ready to jump from the building to prove her love, she can be honest with RK about Sultan? she needs to do it to win his trust..he's asking her this question since the time Sultan entered...

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White Lotus

@white_lotus

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Posted: 12 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: MarathiMulgi

Note: I admit I watched in in FF manner and will need to go back to watch it in detail. However these are my unvarnished feelings about it.

I for one am glad that RK did all that drama in public in full view of all those aunties. That has kept his reputation intact while tarnished both Sultan and Madhu. Sultan, I don't care about but Madhu I do. This is a much needed lesson for Madhu as to how she will now be perceived by the society in general. The same aunties who were marveling her jodi with RK will now look at her with suspicious eyes. Consorting with a different man for a married woman is a no no and in their eyes, what RK did is justified. He did not behave evasively, he plainly put forth all the questions to Sultan. This is what society dictates that a husband takes a firm stand in such matters.

No, I have not gone mad, nor am I celebrating anything. I am a woman and understand perfectly what it means for Madhu's innocence and reputation here in this matter. However this is a bitter pill for her to taste about how her relatioship with Sultan is perceived not only by RK but society in general and it is completely up to her to take steps to rectify it. She either does that or face society's wrath against her.

Her acquital in private in front of RK and Radhaji is not enough if she keeps meeting Sultan after all this. She must change her behavior in that regard or be ready for repeat of this humiliation if not by RK then definitely by Bhujang. For now I see that her plans to leave RK have to be postponed indefinitely because if she leaves him now, she leaves with her own reputation in question. For now, they need to stay together and work this out. RK needs to do humanitarian effort to restore her reputation back in society and what he does for that, will be something interesting to watch.

For now, though he is revered by society as a devoted husband to a supposedly philandering wife, he has lost complete credibility with the person who matters him the most.

Very well said MM! Liked you view.

This was bound to happen..what you can expect from a husband who having doubts on his wife? And wife not taking any effort due to her own ego to clarify the things? So obviously, husband is in under impression that wife his cheating him. She is with him but at the same time she is with someone else too.

RK is no normal person who can think of public when his anger is in top gear...he just acted as per his information on the facts and that is alright. Who called Sultan, whats his relation with Madhu all these questions will be sorted out in few days and Madhu's will come clean BUT as of now with RK all others who are there in party are assuming that its Madhu who is connected to Sultan in some way and that's the reason Sultan is there in Party and even tried to teach RK on how to do things and even told that he can't see Madhu's insults... Now question arises in everybody's mind...why Sultan can't see Madhu's insults? Whats the relation between Madhu and Sultan?

Its clear that due to this incident, Madhu's image is worsen...now she is under suspect. RK and even Kundra's image is also damaged. Peoples got to know that all is not well with RK-Madhu..the couple they were praising sometime back.

Madhu again victim of insults / humiliation in public but that woman herself responsible for this.

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ennishet

@ennishet

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Posted: 12 years ago

#27

All in all the episode matched our expectations - made Madhu seem like a wronged party, Sultan comes out being the gallant hero and poor RK is being painted as the unreasonable husband. Why CV's, why? Haven't you done enough damage to all these three characters?

The Dipali-Sikky dance was good on fun factor, well Dips will at least get an item number in movies once/if she is thrown out of RK Mansion. Sikky is as usual a scared mouse, how he hid behind the mask when Sultan arrived and stated about getting the invite via a servant. Dipali never misses an opportunity to cozy up with RK, that too in a roomful of guests including her family. That woman has no sense of shame nor propriety.

That was a tinsy, winsy small Rishbala moment when RK mouthed the words of the song. They look so sweet and perfect together. Ummm are the CV's sleeping or is GH still mooning/moaning over the tragedy in GA? Snap out of it man or ... wait and watch, it will get better.

I just read dramacrazy and MM's posts and agree with them. Why should this matter be hushed up. What Madhu is doing indirectly with Sultan needs to be out in the open. RK did the right thing by asking those questions in the party. Why should he bear the burden of this relationship alone? Let Madhu work and get equal share for the success or failure, whatever happens further. Madhu isn't clearing the air about her relationship with RK and isn't giving any explanation to Sultan. She might not be directly encouraging Sultan but she needs to wake up from dreamland and realize how Sultan's POV as regards her is changing. The soft looks and hand touches might be innocent on her part but they speak a different story from a third person's viewpoint.

The Punch: Should I cringe for the circumstances under which RK punched Sultan? No. Why not? Coz whatever happens between RK-Madhu is between them. No third person should be interfering when the family is not doing the same. Let them sort out their matters alone and give them space. I loved RK's questions and liked the punch, it was a long time coming. Also, I hated it much that Madhu stopped Sultan from retaliating, I was all in favor of a full on fight ... hopefully that might have woke Madhu up from her slumber. Things are definitely going to get dirty between RK-Sultan very soon. What can diffuse this situation is Madhu clearing up the matter before Sultan and giving RK no reason for jealousy or distrust.

But Madhu being Madhu will never change her path. She will go full speed on her chosen path which is socializing with the don and his gang.

The Precap seems interesting as it might be 'curtains down' for Dipali and Co. Finally! Maybe! Maybe not!

Edited by ennishet - 12 years ago

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Charu

@Krinya

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Posted: 12 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: ClosetRomantic
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About RK's behaviour, I would have felt just as disgusted if he had done the same to Deepali instead of Madhu. A man who raises a finger at his wife's character in front of outsiders (even if it is true) is a fallen man in my opinion.

We can blame Madhu or Sultan or even Deepali all we like. But it is RK who crossed all limits today. A man who goes from whispering sweet-nothings to his wife to publicly humiliating her in a matter of minutes is not fit to be in a relationship. Will his wife have to live with fear all her life that he can blow up anytime at a perceived slight and humiliate her in front of people again and again?

CR, this is not aaj ki baat, this is hamesha ki baat and now i'm used to it...till date, all the good , bad and ugly scenes which happened b/w RK and Madhu have always been public ! right from Madhu accusing him in front of the press (bridge scene no. 1) to RK accusing Madhu in press (the press conference and their pictures in the media , the MMS's) to the unwedding , to RK openly declaring that Sultan is Madhu's guard (when Sultan broke RK's windshield)...CR, aapke liye, did RK fall TODAY ? 😃

as for your 2nd para, this is what we keep discussing , since the unwedding in Feb ..ab toh i'm bored of typing 😆 aaj bhi likha tha..media articles thread mein..😆 but this time, i'm with him bec. it's a chain of events which led to this face off...

ETA

to a certain extent, audience are important as RK is a public personality...whatever he will do will grab eyeballs and it will never go unnoticed irrespective of the presence of audience...

Edited by _charu_ - 12 years ago

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Charu

@Krinya

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Posted: 12 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: dramacrazy12
Regardless Angeena...she should sense that her relationship with her friend is making her husband uneasy and so she needs to restrict it. The boundaries and acceptability of relationships changes before and after marraige. Can she hangout with Sultan until midnight without any social consequences...(and she has)? The way I see it ...it is less of Sultan's fault and more of Madhu's . Sultan is just taking a cue from her behaviour.

👏 this holds true whether a girl is married, divorced or single or her relationship status is complicated ! it takes a second for people to judge you !

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Angeena

@Angeena

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: _charu_
but Angee what's the harm in saying a simple "please stay out of it, you're creating more problems for me, i can handle it on my own " ! can't she say this to a "friend"? and since she's so comfortable with RK , ready to jump from the building to prove her love, she can be honest with RK about Sultan? she needs to do it to win his trust..he's asking her this question since the time Sultan entered...

@bold she already said that and then went and apologized for it.

I have said this earlier too. Madhu demands total blind faith in her. You must always trust her to do the right thing even if you have your doubts. That I don't believe in doing that is a different thing.

And as for clarifying matters with RK she won't do it. It is an insult to her, to have questions raised regarding her virtue.

Originally posted by: dramacrazy12
Regardless Angeena...she should sense that her relationship with her friend is making her husband uneasy and so she needs to restrict it. The boundaries and acceptability of relationships changes before and after marraige. Can she hangout with Sultan until midnight without any social consequences...(and she has)?The way I see it ...it is less of Sultan's fault and more of Madhu's . Sultan is just taking a cue from her behaviour.

I agree that he is taking his cue from Madhu .. but he is no less at fault. Having any thoughts which are not platonic about a married woman is wrong regardless of the signals she is sending.

Also, I know there are limits which she is crossing. But I wonder sometimes, does she consider herself married to RK? Has she taken the "un-wedding" to heart and decided that RK is truly not her husband and his family is separate? In this case, she will think that she has full right to do as she pleases as long as her family (Padmini, Trishna, etc) don't stop her.

Edited by Angeena - 12 years ago

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