What exactly is ABUSE in your POV??

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Hello everyone

This is the first time I m actually making a post in this forum. I have always confined myself to certain post which I felt is worth discussing. I have been reading a lot about ABUSE in the forum right now and this word certainly has grasped my undivided attention itself. So I read that physically beating is abuse. Ok I completely agree but what I want to raise here is that Is abuse limited to PHYSICAL BEATING only? I know one to understand Abuse one must understand first that the power structure of society in which they live and yes in Asian countries males are socially, politically, and economically dominant over females. This societal power structure is reflected in interpersonal relationships and men misuse the power they have in their relationships because they have been socialized to believe they have the right to control women, even using some unaccepted means (Hines et.al, 2007). But what shocks me the most is how majority believes that beating is only Abuse no matter how much of emotional trauma you've been yet since you do not have the visible wounds. I have always believed emotional abuse is far more devastating than physical one as the injuries you get from it might disappear with time but the heartache you've had in the other one always stays there and pinches you every time.

I bet a majority of the forum members here are female, so I would like to ask them do you indeed think abuse is limited to physicality only?? As far as I have known Abuse also consists of Emotional, verbal, psychological, sexual and discriminatory. So coming to the very point of RishBala, I beg to differ from many here as I consider that he has indeed abused Madhu emotionally and also would point the fact that Abuse does not limit itself of beating and Yes I decline to take the reel and real life theory here and would like to request the ones who are reading it to be honest and simply lemme know what you think.

Ps: This is solely my POV yes I do agree many of you might have strong opinions against me but this is what I have been taught and what I believe. I do welcome healthy discussions (I might be late in replying though) and it is definitely not limited to certain fan bases. @ Mods : If you think this is a very sensitive issue to be discussed than I'd be happy to receive the PM from one of you and will edit it accordingly.

Simmy ( As much as I want to keep it to reel life, my heart somewhere is just not letting me, Call me a social worker, moral science teacher or what ever it's the topic that I felt the need to be raised.)

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Posted: 12 years ago
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okay, i'll keep this short and simple: what RK did when he left Madhubala at the alter, that was abuse; what he's doing now isn't emotional, verbal, psychological, sexual, discriminatory or any other form of abuse. the most exigent difference being that this time she's the one who has all the power in the relationship. if she so chooses she can completely destroy this man with a few choice words, whereas anything that RK's done so far has bounced right off her. he's clearly the one suffering in the relationship.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think we can all agree that Mrs. Kundra has not been subjected to any physical abuse so I decided to only focus on verbal/emotional abuse throughout this mini essay. Unless you think that grabbing her arm roughly and carrying her against her will is considered abuse.

Since you believe that Madhubala Rishabh Kundra is a victim of emotional abuse. Let's first look at what the aim of emotional abuse is. Well the aim of emotional abuse is to chip away at your feelings of self-worth and independence. If you're the victim of emotional abuse, you may feel that there is no way out of the relationship or that without your abusive partner you have nothing.

Does RK chip away madhu's feelings of self-worth? Has he really made her feel like she is unworthy? In fact when Mrs. Kundra referred to herself as an average hairdresser RK said he dont call yourself average ever again or i will change the definition of it. Rk always refers to Madhubala as his equal. Remember a well know rk dialogue sher aur sherni ki lariye mein kutte referee nahi hote something like that, it shows that he thinks of her as his equal. Does it seem like madhu thinks that she is nothing without rk? If Madhu did then she would have been sitting in her chawl room depressed crying for a few weeks/months with really low self-esteem and self-worth of herself. But if I remember correctly she was back on her feet the next morning and decided that rk was the thing of the past and she wants to move ahead in life. She does not display any of the symptoms of an emotionally/verbally abused victim. It's because Madhubala Rishabh Kundra is not a victim of emotional/verbal abuse. She has always fought back. She has never passively submitted to any of rk whims.

Here is the definition of verbal abuse according to US law. Sorry don't live in india so have no idea what it is there but I think it might be around the same lines as this.

Verbal abuse is the use of words to cause harm to the person being spoken to. It is difficult to define and may take many forms. Similarly, the harm caused is often difficult to measure. The most commonly understood form is name-calling. Verbal abuse may consist of shouting, insulting, intimidating, threatening, shaming, demeaning, or derogatory language, among other forms of communication.

Perpetrators of verbal abuse often misuse their authority and prey on those in a subordinate position. Victims of verbal abuse are often told they are to blame for the abuser's behavior and reluctant to take action to end the abuse. Verbal abuse may lead to stress, depression, physical ailments, and other damage.

Does RK really submit Mrs. Kundra to emotional abuse? Has he used his words to cause Mrs. Kundra any harm or used any type of derogatory language towards here? Has RK tried to place Mrs. Kundra in a subordinate position? I think rk was the one that usually said that he prefers the sherni madhubala. Most importantly does Mrs. Kundra show any symptoms of being a victim of emotional Abuse? Some symptom of emotional abuse might include but are often not limited to the feelings of worthlessness, unattractiveness, depression, inadequacy, low self-esteem,low self-worth, insecurity, high psychological stress and shame. When Mrs. Kundra fails to exhibit any of the symptoms of emotional abuse then how can she be defined as a victim of abuse?

Edited by shmurr - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Awww Sims darling congrats on your first post on this forum!! 😆😆

I had mentioned about this in someone else's topic as well that abuse doesn't necessarily mean physical only...it can be mental, emotional etc like you pointed out in your post. But people still find it hard to believe that RK has abused Madhu🥱🥱

And so far RK has mentally, emotionally, verbally, psychologically and to some extent physically abused her...actually not to some extent but to a lot more extent...I mean who in his right mind would handcuff his so called "Biwi"?? And people justify this saying that it's one of RK's ever so complex layers!! Puh-LIZ dude!! Even a kid can see that what he is doing is wrong...but alas fangirls in our forum don't leave a chance to glorify his cheap actions...It's so creepy!!🤢🤢

And please don't tell me that this show is not for the weak hearted and that this is a dark love story and blah blah blah...the makers have NEVER said that this is a dark story!! They have only mentioned that it is a passionate love story (not that there is any passion left...the only thing left is madness) !! People have just twisted their words to suit their likings and to justify RK's actions!!

Thanks for raising this topic Sims!! Great post!
Edited by TheDarkKnight - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I will answer this without writing an essay!😆

Well here we go::: abuse is NOT what RK is doing right now!🤓

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On a serious note, emotional abuse has been recognized and termed as domestic violence. Abuse does not just constitute physical scars due to physically being beaten, it endorses a lot of other types of abuse too which accumulate in destroying a person both in the inside and on the outside. But like I said people on this forum constitute the types of abuse MB is enduring right now as a dark love affair so I highly doubt their intellectual brains have developed to acknowledged the real issues of life.🤔
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Abuse can be physical, emotional, or verbal. Here is the definition of abuse according to Miriam Webster Dictionary:

Definition of ABUSE

1
: a corrupt practice or custom
2
: improper or excessive use or treatment : misuse <drugabuse>
3
obsolete : a deceitful act : deception
4
: language that condemns or vilifies usually unjustly, intemperately, and angrily
5
: physical maltreatment
See abuse defined for English-language learners

Examples of ABUSE

  1. He subjected his wife to physical and emotional abuse.
  2. the buying of votes and other election abuses
  3. She was subjected to every term of abuse her boss could think of.
  4. a torrent of verbal abuse

So whatever RK is doing including taking Madhu against her will, confining her in his house, handcuffing her, etc. etc. is considered abuse.
Edited by RGYA - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Most of you have summarized the term 'Abuse' really well.
But in this forum, RK's LOVEs madhu and he has troubled childhood, he was betrayed in love by Deepali blah...blah..blah..so his actions are justified. Since Madhu is FIGHTING BACK and standing up to him that means she is not being abused🤢😡..Infact, its Madhu's fault that she is not complying to RK's demands because its Madhu's DUTY to stay with RK for him to realize his mistakes🤢 because she LOVEs him too


Edited by MonyP - 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: MonyP

Most of summarized the term 'Abuse' really well.

But in this forum, RK's LOVEs madhu and he has rtoubled childhood, he was betrayed in love by Deepali blah...blah..blah..so his actions are justified. Since Madhu is FIGHTING BACK and standing up to him that means she is not being abused🤢😡..grrr



Agree!!
Well even Madhu has a past (her own dad tried to kill her not once but twice!!...once when she was born and then again later on...she didn't even know what her dad looked like all these years...)...but you don't see her running around in pscyho mode!! Puh-Liz that is the most overrated excuse I've heard/read in the forum!!🥱🥱
Edited by TheDarkKnight - 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheDarkKnight

Awww Sims darling congrats on your first post on this forum!! 😆😆


I had mentioned about this in someone else's topic as well that abuse doesn't necessarily mean physical only...it can be mental, emotional etc like you pointed out in your post. But people still find it hard to believe that RK has abused Madhu🥱🥱

And so far RK has mentally, emotionally, verbally, psychologically and to some extent physically abused her...actually not to some extent but to a lot more extent...I mean who in his right mind would handcuff his so called "Biwi"?? And people justify this saying that it's one of RK's ever so complex layers!! Puh-LIZ dude!! Even a kid can see that what he is doing is wrong...but alas fangirls in our forum don't leave a chance to glorify his cheap actions...It's so creepy!!🤢🤢

And please don't tell me that this show is not for the weak hearted and that this is a dark love story and blah blah blah...the makers have NEVER said that this is a dark story!! They have only mentioned that it is a passionate love story (not that there is any passion left...the only thing left is madness) !! People have just twisted their words to suit their likings and to justify RK's actions!!

Thanks for raising this topic Sims!! Great post!


Thanks Shiks 🤗
@Bold: I do agree with you completely on this. The only thing I can't get is why do people still deny the fact in the name of "LOVE" which I can't see and that is not good enough reason to glorify his actions.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheDarkKnight


Agree!!
Well even Madhu has a past (her dad tried to kill her not once but twice!!...once when she was born and then again later on)...but you don't see her running around in pscyho mode!! Puh-Liz that is the most overrated excuse I've heard/read in the forum!!🥱🥱


Seriously🥱🥱 how can you make them understand. I know this is just a show but I am scared for these young girls..really. The crime against women is all time high nowadays, young girls must be aware of different forms of abuse because usually it starts in subtle form which is not easily recognizable. Things go out of control and they are already trapped by the time they realize it.

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