Episode 187 Discussion: 5th Feb 2013 - Page 6

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Posted: 12 years ago
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something that could have indicated that this was an intended revenge plan is that after the slaps, RK is sitting there drinking scotch and bittuji comes to him and says to stop drinking and get back to work. He goes NO my entire life is on hold until Madhu comes and bandages my wounds for me. Plz tell me where is the realistic aspect here which man can be around a girl for so long and have the heart to do this to her after he knows about the purity in her heart. who would live a life of pain and depression when he can have a blissful marriage full of love? I guess it all comes down to ego and lettng things go. From now on if i do decide to continue watching this serial i wont expect any realism. they say it is better to have love and lost then not to have ever loved at all. but not many ppl go through the pain of someone intentionally playing with your emotions all along unless the wanted something physical from that is where the reality goes away. I guess the only realistic thing that comes out from this track is how ego can take over you and you cant move on from it. After revenge what has RK gained? Has he gained peace of mind because he is still heading back to his scotch.
Edited by Gurtiluv - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0


Its not about redemption. Its about pain. I have had a heart-break. And to deal with my pain, I wanted to continue working with it and with faith I changed things...as in it looks idiotic and OCD behaviour...but what if when your breath stops, heart feels heavy and you feel that sharp pain...the only solution from that feeling is making the other do exactly opposite of what he or she wants us to feel. Its looks like avevnging oneself...but it is beyong revenge, redemption, it just becomes a matter of survival...physical and mental levels both...you don't mind what shit you are getting into as long it gives you strength to recover, recuperate...

Things change later...they never are the same in pristine manner...but all of it makes sense...once we pass the stage of survival. It becomes a highly personal moment.


If I think emotionally, I agree with what you said there Shri. I can totally relate to it. I do no know what kind of heart break you are referring to, but I have gone through one. They say first love changes you forever in a way you will never realize when its happening, you may not fathom until its too late and I believe in it. They also say, the only way to get over hurt inbred by love is to continue to love until there is no more hurt. Only love.

See, that is why I always curb my emotional side. I start writing all crap on public forum. 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ananya05


If I think emotionally, I agree with what you said there Shri. I can totally relate to it. I do no know what kind of heart break you are referring to, but I have gone through one. They say first love changes you forever in a way you will never realize when its happening, you may not fathom until its too late and I believe in it. They also say, the only way to get over hurt inbred by love is to continue to love until there is no more hurt. Only love.

See, that is why I always curb my emotional side. I start writing all crap on public forum. 😆


Ananya,

@bold
That is so true. I healed myself in that manner. Once hurt was gone, slowly I taught myself indifference.

You know...in that moment of hurt, its just us and our faith that gets us going with the object of our hurt. The object of our hurt is no longer our focus, it is our heart which is in focus and we start caring for it ...as if the entire body and mind is helping our heart which has stopped functioning. The will power, the mind power gives you the courage to keep on loving because that makes the heart feel good...on side track...all information is fed to heart...look we are doing it for you...just be patient and be calm...

Its okay to share. It helps mutually if you ask me. The thoughts buried in alcoves, get their meaning and liberated. No more feel imprisoned. 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: apolloartemis

Second: RK is giving off mixed signals. He does not take advantage of Madhu- ok, so there are limits to his revenge, if this is a revenge track. At the same time, he smirks pretty obviously and evilly at the beginning of the Madhu getting bangles scene. But he asks Madhu's forgiveness, and his smirk fades into a smile as the scene goes on. If this is revenge, RK does not know his own heart, and has allowed his pride to rule everything. Or it could be that he does know his heart, and has decided that his pride is worth more, and is destroying Madhu (her innocence, her love) to rebuild her in his own image- the only way he'll be good enough for her. Taint Madhu to make an already tainted RK worthy of her. I can't see him letting her go, so this is the only way I can justify a revenge track. RK knows Madhu is his, totally and utterly. If he destroy's her, she isn't going to retaliate- she won't have the emotional reserves to do so. And she won't be able to turn to her family- how can she? RK has redeemed himself 10 times over in their eyes. So it leaves an extremely vulnerable Madhu, who is now open to be completely molded by RK- "Madhu you want me to love you- do this, become this. Then we can be together."
Or maybe not. Maybe he is a cartoon villain.
At the seven pheras scene, maybe he'll spout a mustache and start twirling it around like a manic as he gives his dialogue.


AA,
Firstly superb post.👏
@bold: I am glad somebody apart form me felt that he had an evil smirk at the beginning of the bangle scene. That gives me relief that I am not over analyzing and imagining things. 😆

You present an interesting theory here, that RK is doing all of this to taint Madhu and bring her down to his level. But what is his level? I do not understand why does he think so low of himself, even after doing so much good for her family and risking his life to save her. Why can't he continue to do good and redeem himself if he thinks he is not worthy of her? Why put your love through so much turmoil? For his pride? He has to be an extreme case of megalomania to do this. And what exactly is he going to achieve by hurting her and breaking her heart? Will he able to see her go through the torment knowing that he has inflicted it on her? If he remains apathetic towards her, this again becomes a case of sadism.

If I ignore the speculations of a life threatening disease, to me he is coming across as a man plagued by psychosis with each passing moment after the recent news. So, logically, I think CVs should show him suffering from some severe mental illness, like Split personality to convince us of his antics. 🤣That will perfectly explain why he wants to avenge her even though he loves her madly. That would then also justify all the RK vs Rishabh drama that had surfaced amid the love test track. 🤣

Savz,
You were right when you were mentioning RK being a case of Aparichit movie. He keeps shifting between RK and Rishabh. RK coming to sweet Rishu's rescue all the time. 🤣

ETA: If he is trying to break her down, to match his tainted self, it is most likely that his game started sometime after he actually fell in love with her. Not from the studio night. It might be sometime during all the Shamsher jail track. In such a scenario, I am wondering where does Dips fit in.
Edited by Ananya05 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#55
@appolo and ananya
Maybe he was just smirking because he thought those bangles won't help her much when I break her heart.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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This is really beautiful romantic scene!
I want to enjoy the show, as usual. All the things they do, is to entertain the audience, and the plot is used to it! Enjoy it! This is a very good show!


Edited by zorica - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0


Ananya,

@bold
That is so true. I healed myself in that manner. Once hurt was gone, slowly I taught myself indifference.

You know...in that moment of hurt, its just us and our faith that gets us going with the object of our hurt. The object of our hurt is no longer our focus, it is our heart which is in focus and we start caring for it ...as if the entire body and mind is helping our heart which has stopped functioning. The will power, the mind power gives you the courage to keep on loving because that makes the heart feel good...on side track...all information is fed to heart...look we are doing it for you...just be patient and be calm...

I am myself amazed of that night in retrospect when I felt my heart stopped and I stumped on bed...and my mind was saying, no you need to be strong for your parents, for every other person who loves you...you need to get up and I couldn't...and by and by ...I struggled, I got up and went and lighted the lamp before God in that night and I abused HIM (God). I asked him, why He didn't take care of me when every moment of my feeling I shared with HIM. And I vowed to him...YOU LET ME get into this MESS...NOW YOU ARE GOING to MAKE IT RIGHT for ME. And from next day onwards, I behaved as if nothing happened and yet I was thinking hard how to make it right.


Its okay to share. It helps mutually if you ask me. The thoughts buried in alcoves, get their meaning and liberated. No more feel imprisoned. 😊


Agreed Shri. The opposite of Love is not hatred. It is indifference. But the journey to that indifference, is only through the painful path of love. It took me an year to bring my life back to normalcy, and I do not have any significant recollection of my life events during that year, apart from the fact that I focused myself ruthlessly towards my studies.
And after that year, liberation. 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: zorica

This is really beautiful romantic scene!
I want to enjoy the show, as usual. All the things they do, is to entertain the audience, and the plot is used to it! Enjoy it! This is a very good show!




nice poster zorica, nice chemistry n nice rkbala moment 😛 n ya atlast changed song too for this scene, nice 😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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🤣🤣
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Zorica, Savz,

Take me also into the group hug. 🤗


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