Episode 187 Discussion: 5th Feb 2013 - Page 5

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Posted: 12 years ago
#41
Argh, this stupid IF ate my post!😡
Ok, take 2:
1st off, I'll admit- the entire romancing sequence, I was distracted by RK's long lashes. The entire time, I was like "Damn, I want that length." I think its a self defense mechanism. If the revenge track does go through, expect a lot of posts from me focusing on the prettiness of the actors, and nothing on the storytelling and characters. I foresee writing a lot about Madhu's anarkali's going forward😆
Second: RK is giving off mixed signals. He does not take advantage of Madhu- ok, so there are limits to his revenge, if this is a revenge track. At the same time, he smirks pretty obviously and evilly at the beginning of the Madhu getting bangles scene. But he asks Madhu's forgiveness, and his smirk fades into a smile as the scene goes on. If this is revenge, RK does not know his own heart, and has allowed his pride to rule everything. Or it could be that he does know his heart, and has decided that his pride is worth more, and is destroying Madhu (her innocence, her love) to rebuild her in his own image- the only way he'll be good enough for her. Taint Madhu to make an already tainted RK worthy of her. I can't see him letting her go, so this is the only way I can justify a revenge track. RK knows Madhu is his, totally and utterly. If he destroy's her, she isn't going to retaliate- she won't have the emotional reserves to do so. And she won't be able to turn to her family- how can she? RK has redeemed himself 10 times over in their eyes. So it leaves an extremely vulnerable Madhu, who is now open to be completely molded by RK- "Madhu you want me to love you- do this, become this. Then we can be together."
Or maybe not. Maybe he is a cartoon villain.
At the seven pheras scene, maybe he'll spout a mustache and start twirling it around like a manic as he gives his dialogue.
So posts from Saturday on? All about lipsticks, hair and anarkali's😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Ananya05


Life threatening disease to RK? 😲 So, either way, ST has decided to take Ekta maiya's route. 😆
Only good thing is, I will be banging my head on the wall for lesser amount of time if the recent speculations to rationalize RKs turn around are true.😆



Ok If he has a disease , when did he found out????😕
Edited by Sima14 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#43
I saw the whole episode with an altogether different perspective and it turned out to be Hint ka Mahaepisode!!!!

I still can't bring myself to believe that RK is villainous... Am hoping that the CV's have a real tight and neat script justifying his stance..

RK backs off saying he can't do this to her... He asks forgiveness from her once again... Ok, prolly it would have all started as a revenge for him and with that big fat ego of his, he would go onto claim his supposed win...But he does know that he is going to hurt her very badly and he is regretting for it too and he knows he loves her a lot...

When he says right outside their home, that from tomorrow, all he would be left is her love and two scotches with chicken... He knows he is going to break her which in turn is going to break him and the only thing he would be left in his life is her love(as a memory) and alcohol...

RK notices Dipali's observing eye in the hall family scene...

Ok.. What I am going to say now might sound outrageous..plz bear with me...I logically can no more say sth can happen or sth cannot.. Is the whole Bhatia family dhongi or part of some Nautanki troupe?Were they brought in by RK? There might be some instances to refute this outlandish idea of mine...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: apolloartemis

Argh, this stupid IF ate my post!😡

Ok, take 2:
1st off, I'll admit- the entire romancing sequence, I was distracted by RK's long lashes. The entire time, I was like "Damn, I want that length." I think its a self defense mechanism. If the revenge track does go through, expect a lot of posts from me focusing on the prettiness of the actors, and nothing on the storytelling and characters. I foresee writing a lot about Madhu's anarkali's going forward😆
Second: RK is giving off mixed signals. He does not take advantage of Madhu- ok, so there are limits to his revenge, if this is a revenge track. At the same time, he smirks pretty obviously and evilly at the beginning of the Madhu getting bangles scene. But he asks Madhu's forgiveness, and his smirk fades into a smile as the scene goes on. If this is revenge, RK does not know his own heart, and has allowed his pride to rule everything. Or it could be that he does know his heart, and has decided that his pride is worth more, and is destroying Madhu (her innocence, her love) to rebuild her in his own image- the only way he'll be good enough for her. Taint Madhu to make an already tainted RK worthy of her. I can't see him letting her go, so this is the only way I can justify a revenge track. RK knows Madhu is his, totally and utterly. If he destroy's her, she isn't going to retaliate- she won't have the emotional reserves to do so. And she won't be able to turn to her family- how can she? RK has redeemed himself 10 times over in their eyes. So it leaves an extremely vulnerable Madhu, who is now open to be completely molded by RK- "Madhu you want me to love you- do this, become this. Then we can be together."
Or maybe not. Maybe he is a cartoon villain.
At the seven pheras scene, maybe he'll spout a mustache and start twirling it around like a manic as he gives his dialogue.
So posts from Saturday on? All about lipsticks, hair and anarkali's😉


🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

OMG!!!! This made me laugh in the extreme calmness of my surroundings.
Long eyelashes...

I was thinking from the various angles...how many times they shot for the scene, one camera that looks at DD, One that looks at VD, one far shot looking at the two, One zoom shot looking the two and one Side angle...Five takes. And how many times, both gave a cue to the other...I move the hand you respond as if feeling it...Man!!! I was just seeing is as shooting scene with crew around and them two acting.

And of course I am pitted against Sourabh Tewari and his team...so I counted how many timed he wanted to talk to me. He talked to me in this manner:

  1. When RK refused..."Nahin Madhu"
  2. He said Sorry,"Mujhe Maaf Kar do" for something other than what Madhu was assuming.
  3. When Ajji gave green bangles to Madhu and empowered Madhu against ill-luck.
  4. When in the car they played their game and RK said...no matter what ...you will always copy me.
  5. When Madhu said you say something convincingly true and yet your eyes speak something else and I will catch that...just that Madhu was thinking it was just about loving her...so ST &Co, hinted to me that there are other layers too that Madhu will know and become the detective.
  6. When RK said...this is the last day we are stepping into this house...so that means his revenge is complete and he will go back to his scotch and Chicken...ofcourse ST did not say, where Madhu will go after revenge gets completed...as in why RK says he is also not coming back...that he left me with curiosity...but now I give two hoots for his "Interest Creation".

This is how I am gonna watch from now on...and I will learn trends, Media canvassing, TRP creation, analysing Soap Presentation Operations. Yes, why not...I am already bored of my present job and have been thinking...what I want to learn new.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#45
So Shri you have already passed te acceptance phase of shock and you accept it was a revenge plan. My mind is still stretching for hope. Lol!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#46
BTW...Let me remind you all.

We all forget that Madhu's Medicine is also RK, like she said to Dipali.

So if he hurts her bad, she will make him give her medicine...Well he has to that is where MADHU will become the DIFFERENT kind of SOAP heroine that she always is. She ALWAYS seems something attractive about RK more than us viewers and is spontaneously reacting to him. So he will be HER CURE...That is for sure the CHARACTER CONSISTENCY ST & Co. will provide to MADHUBALA: Ek Ishq Ek Junoon. Her Ishq is to love RK and Her junoon is to fight Rishabh Kundra
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Posted: 12 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

BTW...Let me remind you all.


We all forget that Madhu's Medicine is also RK, like she said to Dipali.

So if he hurts her bad, she will make him give her medicine...Well he has to that is where MADHU will become the DIFFERENT kind of SOAP heroine that she always is. She ALWAYS seems something attractive about RK more than us viewers and is spontaneously reacting to him. So he will be HER CURE...That is for sure the CHARACTER CONSISTENCY ST & Co. will provide to MADHUBALA: Ek Ishq Ek Junoon. Her Ishq is to love RK and Her junoon is to fight Rishabh Kundra



So you think RK can redeem himself after doing all this?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#48
@zoya
when dipali first entered she said according to the media RK lives on his own but he has family there which no one knows about. It could be that the whole family drama was false too!!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: Gurtiluv



So you think RK can redeem himself after doing all this?


Its not about redemption. Its about pain. I have had a heart-break. And to deal with my pain, I wanted to continue working with it and with faith I changed things...as in it looks idiotic and OCD behaviour...but what if when your breath stops, heart feels heavy and you feel that sharp pain...the only solution from that feeling is making the other do exactly opposite of what he or she wants us to feel. Its looks like avevnging oneself...but it is beyong revenge, redemption, it just becomes a matter of survival...physical and mental levels both...you don't mind what shit you are getting into as long it gives you strength to recover, recuperate...

Things change later...they never are the same in pristine manner...but all of it makes sense...once we pass the stage of survival. It becomes a highly personal moment.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0


🤣 🤣

OMG!!!! This made me laugh in the extreme calmness of my surroundings.
Long eyelashes...

I was thinking from the various angles...how many times they shot for the scene, one camera that looks at DD, One that looks at VD, one far shot looking at the two, One zoom shot looking the two and one Side angle...Five takes. And how many times, both gave a cue to the other...I move the hand you respond as if feeling it...Man!!! I was just seeing is as shooting scene with crew around and them two acting.

And of course I am pitted against Sourabh Tewari and his team...so I counted how many timed he wanted to talk to me. He talked to me in this manner:

  1. When RK refused..."Nahin Madhu"
  2. He said Sorry,"Mujhe Maaf Kar do" for something other than what Madhu was assuming.
  3. When Ajji gave green bangles to Madhu and empowered Madhu against ill-luck.
  4. When in the car they played their game and RK said...no matter what ...you will always copy me.
  5. When Madhu said you say something convincingly true and yet your eyes speak something else and I will catch that...just that Madhu was thinking it was just about loving her...so ST &Co, hinted to me that there are other layers too that Madhu will know and become the detective.
  6. When RK said...this is the last day we are stepping into this house...so that means his revenge is complete and he will go back to his scotch and Chicken...ofcourse ST did not say, where Madhu will go after revenge gets completed...as in why RK says he is also not coming back...that he left me with curiosity...but now I give two hoots for his "Interest Creation".

This is how I am gonna watch from now on...and I will learn trends, Media canvassing, TRP creation, analysing Soap Presentation Operations. Yes, why not...I am already bored of my present job and have been thinking...what I want to learn new.

After all the headaches ST has given you, I'm glad my post made you laugh.
I think, given where this track seems to be heading, it is best to detach ourselves. I don't think I'll stop watching, because its like watching a train wreak- you can't tear your eyes away. At the same time, I'm not going to give so much of myself to MEIEJ again. Like you, Shri, it is best to focus on other aspects of the drama.
Life is hectic enough- I'm not going to stress over a serial which I started watching to get away from stress.

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