Episode 168 Discussion: 12th Jan 2013

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#51

Best place to approach the CVs to give our feedback, since all you posters write wonderfully.

Colors.in is moderated but still you can post.

Now someone please give me the colors feedback email address or webpage. I think it starts with feedback@colors...something like that

Then we can post on FB

https://www.facebook.com/MadhubalaEIEJ.Colors

Then to CVs

Sourabh Tewary the producer and story writer - Twitter acct

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Gautam Hegde - @mrhegde

I will try to find out about Raghubir Shekhawat

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Charu

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Posted: 12 years ago

#52

Originally posted by: Soundarya22

Am continuing my meandering post, before i forget what I have to say, so pls bear with me😉
Besides this is about Madhubala.
If he was in love with Dipali, how could he fall in love with madhu?? Total opposite in nature, innocent, compassionate, strong willed, artless at times, a little less intelligent?? Not really, she is less exposed, less a woman of the world because of her background, pampered and protected...why, because remember her father tried to kill her. She was willing to discontinue her studies and settle down with Mukund. If one thinks of her story, she just took on the role of the good daughter. If we see Trishna now, we can imagine the scenario at home, Trishna always storming off saying noone loves me, and everyone trying to manao her, incl Madhu.
her intelligence is of a different kind...she is extremely perceptive when she wants to be. And quite strong when she wants to be. Rememeber she tells RK- mood ke hisaab se, situation ke hisaab se, she can be whatever she wants to be. And she is also very open about it. She is quite happy otherwise in her own happy world.
RK-Rishabh for her are one and the same, you cannot love one without accepting the other. In fact, I was imagining her love confession along the same lines as RK, explaining to him why she loves Rishabh and why she loves RK...with instances...would have been beautiful no??
She loves RK, raps him sharply when he acts smart, and loves Rishabh, gives in to him, comforts him, supports him when he needs it. Which is what is needed in any relationship, complete acceptance of the person with his kinks, chinks, idiosyncracies.
It is for RK now to accept himself as RK/Rishabh and move on in life with someone who understands both the worlds he inhabits.
This is sort of unrelated and presumptious, but jaya bachchan in all interviews addresses Amitabh Bachchan as Amit. Who else would dare to do that with the legend, the superstar except his wife?? Who else has the right, except his parents, siblings?

exxxcellent 🤗so wonderful to read Madhu's character sketch..precisely to the point

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Ananya05

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Posted: 12 years ago

#53

Just caught up with the episode. It truly was mind blowing. Everyone has already written so much abt it n it was great reading all ur analysis. 👏 wonderful take from all of u. I will not add too much n make things repetitive here.

Shri,
Re ur post on deepali character plot cl
unk post, i totally agree. Deepali is truly a pathetic woman.shameless beyond my imagination. I hv always been surprised and angry at RK for not being able to deal with the 'seductress' deepali, n dis goes bk to the day her character ws introduced. She comes n blabbers all nonsense to him abt der passionate nights in d past n he is tongue tied. Why cnt he tell her off? N den wen she decorates his room to create romantic ambience (wat woman wud to dat under her husbands n MILs nose? Pathetic), he has to use madhu to dispense deepali by bringing her to his room. I did not like dat at all. How was he dealing wid her before madhu came into his house? All these 5 years, she hs been lurking around his room hoping tht he wud give in?

I hv lot more on my mind, bt cnt type much frm mobile.

This is for all of u for ur wonderful write ups today.
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Zorica

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Posted: 12 years ago

#54

I'm just going to quote what you said, and to add an illustration.

Zoya said:

RK-Dipz scene was as usual fabulous. Dipz was at her best, playing her usual old tricks(love in his life, his only weak point) that have worked till date. But today, RK shut her up and started flushing out the zeher in his heart, he had for her w.r.t. the love angle. For the first time, he tells her that she has lost him five years back and the intezaar in his life yielded him the best fruit. It was too good to see a fearful and horrified Dipali when she knows that she has lost the battle she has been successfully waging for five years and that she can no longer unnerve him. And the evil laugh and the smirk when she realized Madhu has overheard their convo was just too good. But am sure that laugh would turn out to be hollow in the coming days. She is such a sadist and I can't believe that she claimed to love RK once. Hopefully this is the much needed and most awaited Dipali closure in his life!!!

Shridevi said:

RK-Dips-Madhu ka Break-up

Finally I hope..we will have the much needed break up between the three regarding seeing them together in same quarters. RK quarters was getting to be habitated by RK and his two women...one a 4-phera Biwi and other Ex-mehbooba. All three hinged together.

Today too in the ending scene..Madhu the wife was walking away from the room, RK the husband was at the threshold of the room and Dipali inside the quarters, just like the time when RK brought Biwi to his quarters when Dipali wanted to spend the night with him in his room, adorning it with all candles, right under the nose of her husband Sikky, who still was inhabiting RK mansion.

Only RK was clear that who gets to stay in his quarters. He asked his Biwi to stay there and he always used to ask Dipali to get out.
But Shameless Dipali always used to barge in anytime of the day or night...even when husband and wife were in bed on their first day. Even Patranis or concubines have their own rooms. But never I could believe my eyes that this woman gets away by coming into his room...and shameless she and the inmates of RK...no one wonders or asks what the Bhabhi has to do in the Dewar's room.
And Madhu the wife when not in love, would just let her aadha adhoora pati to have all conversations with this woman, she would wear her saree when she knew her husband would not like her wearing his ex-flame's saree and she wouldn't even remove that saree when RK asks her to. And when later she fell in love with her husband, even then she was telling RK to treat Dipali with respect and not shoo her away.

Dipali was the worst character and track introduced by CVs to create drama.

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pnars

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Posted: 12 years ago

#55

Just caught up with the episode. Why did RK say things may have been different if Dips had more patience five years ago? Granted, he may have spoken the truth, he may have had a happily-ever-after with Dips, but, dammit, I want him to love Madhu beyond anything he may have felt for Dips!! His dialogue today made me doubt whether he's yet to feel the junoon for Madhu 😕.

I'm tired of Dipali's taunts. Grow up RK! Look beyond her. You actually have a real woman in love with you, not a snake! Kick this snake out of your room and post a guard at the door..

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Munni_123

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Posted: 12 years ago

#56

Hello everyone!

Missed this place. Had been to motherland and returned. Happy to say that people over there are crazy about Madhubala.

@Shri missed ur reviews.

About yesterday's episode.

Is RK wrong in testing Madhu's love?

Rishabh , who loved his father immensely lost his father which he never expected. He failed there.

His mom married again and he lost his mom( he thought so) He thought he failed again.

Deepali ditched him . He thought he faced another failure which is very big and these failures changed Rishabh to RK who is smart, shrewed and wants to win anything at any cost.

In the beginning episodes there was a dailog he says to bittuji.

Jab RK saath ho toh haarne ki baat hi nahi hoti hai.

he never got unconditional love in his life so far. But things

have changed whe Madhubala came to his life. he got the attention, love from her which he never thought he will get in his life.

he accepted it and happy about it. The failures till now he faced definitely raise doubts in him. The doubt which is hiding somewhere in his mind was triggered by Deepali's words. It acted as a catalyst.

When he got to know about Madhu's intentions he is on top of the world. He got gold medal. For him he is not testing Madhu's love. He is testing his own destiny which is full of failures till now.

Like a kid who got a distinction after getting only 35 marks all the time he wants to show that he got distinction to the world especially to Deepali .

Life tests us everyday in different ways and makes us what we are. Rishabh was tested and failed and became RK.

About Madhu - She got unconditional love from people around her. Though she faced hurdles from her father she got Malik who loves her immensely without any relation or bond. She

got Roma, Trishna, and her mom. She always passed in distinction in the tests given by life.

Her father tried to kill her - she got Malik

RK wants to destroy her and married her - She got love, respect from the same man who humiliated her.

She never faced failure like Rishabh faced. It is a blow to her when she listened RK and Deepali's convo.

Both are correct in their perspectives, my POV.

Nice takes everyone. Will be regular from now.

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dramago

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Posted: 12 years ago

#57

@ pnars

This is how I understood that scene but,only after my second watch and much thought...

have to give a 👏 for the writer...he wouldn't let us be a passive watcher...the dialogues linger

in the mind until we decode it...

Deepali...Intezaar hi likha hain na tumhare fate mein

R.K...Haan,Intezaar hain aur pyaar bhi hain meaning just 'waiting' for Deepali whereas his wait yielded him 'Love'

R.K... Pyaar se thoda aur intezaar kardi hoti toh kahaani kuch aur hi hoti....meaning out of love

if you had waited for me a little longer may be we could have married then,the story would have been different with me still yearning for that true love...but,now I have pyaar,love

R.K...Hain na intezaar...as the story is different now... are you not still waiting,in intezaar for your dream life where as I got my true love in my life

R.K just twisted her dialogue around and baffled her and us viewers too...Intelligent writing...hope I got it right...😊

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hansa22

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Posted: 12 years ago

#58

Originally posted by: himbin

@ pnars

This is how I understood that scene but,only after my second watch and much thought...
have to give a 👏 for the writer...he wouldn't let us be a passive watcher...the dialogues linger
in the mind until we decode it...

Deepali...Intezaar hi likha hain na tumhare fate mein

R.K...Haan,Intezaar hain aur pyaar bhi hain meaning just 'waiting' for Deepali whereas his wait yielded him 'Love'

R.K... Pyaar se thoda aur intezaar kardi hoti toh kahaani kuch aur hi hoti....meaning out of love
if you had waited for me a little longer may be we could have married then,the story would have been different with me still waiting for that true love...but,now I have pyaar,love

R.K...Hain na intezaar...as the story is different now... are you not still waiting,in intezaar for your dream life where as I got my true love in my life

R.K just twisted her dialogue around and bowled her over and us viewers too...hope I got it right...😊

Thank you. this particular line from RK kept haunting me, your explanation is perfect. I'm going to watch it again to understand it better.

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#59

Hello All,

I received an advise from our Mod Shifali, that I should refrain talking about forum in this thread. So obviously, we have stalkers and who report the matter to DT. So this is my public answer to them and my ED well-wishers as well,

I love the ED discussion more.

I cannot accomodate more time for discussing on what are the permissible limits of our rights to retain public general voicing of our criticism against observed increasing displeasing posting that is focussing on being quantitative and not qualitative, though it would be an interesting debate for everyone.

However since, no one is being paid here in monetary terms for whatever efforts they make, like writing for the show, moderating the forum, promoting of the forum and the show ; and what everyone does is purely their kind gesture, I appreciate and understand the sense of time vested in this activity. Hence I return the same token appreciation and decide not to waste anyone's time and make life easy for the DT team especially. I shall follow their advise to use Report Button, if I want to voice anything. Since I do not venture much out to the main forum and I never open AT, CC, AT threads, it is safe to think, that kind of overlook may not bother many at all.

I would now just go and delete what I wrote yesterday regarding forum.

Thank you my friends in the ED thread for understanding the repercussions better than me and avoiding the talk and anyways, my disclaimer clause must have helped. Thank God! sense prevailed even at the head ache I had. I must tell you, for at least an hour, I was thinking, what I was doing with all this posting when everywhere I read negative feedback. After getting my thoughts out, sense of balance restored and I recalled that love for the show had made me be here. So for the regulars of the ED thread, I promise that I shall not risk writing anything that may cause closure of the thread. From now on, I am going to voice my issues with the forum posting only with DT or alternative mode with friends to get it out my system.

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zoya_naziya

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Posted: 12 years ago

#60

Yesterday, in that scene, RK was taunting Dipali that she was a loser on all fronts and has nothing but to crave and wait for her dream life. And he was talking about his success and indirectly her failures. But still, the woman was highly shameless, that she made a move on him provocatively when she was pinned to the wall.It was disgusting. And RK just shirked back and moved away from her...

So even yesterday, despite RK supposedly having the upperhand and he having hit her weak nerve, was still getting bullied.. The CV's need to make RK stronger than her and not cower down in front of her. He needs to stop getting bullied. It's a hit to his manhood in the first place and no man would entertain such things, however insecure they are... Secondly, this doesn't go down well with his powerful persona too.. You don't expect a person like him to let someone , (that someone ditched him for godsake), daunt him.. You're supposed to be vengeful and it has to be shown in his acts.. Ok she might be his bhabhi and for the supposed betterment of his family, he is keeping shut, but still there would be other ways to keep her in check...In the beginning ,I used to think, prolly, he doesn't want to waste his time and energy, as it's completely useless and this woman is going to remain shameless.

But from the time of Dipali's entry till now, her audacity and shamelessness has only increased(even in front of the family, during the daal-chawal nautanki of his or at the time when the jasoos told that she was found in RK's room before this guy fled off to Karjat or when Radha entered the room and RK was shirtless and she said, came to give him milk,mads hadn't even shifted to his room then.. It was abhorring for me!!! Is the family dumb? ) and RK is just being pathetic by being a weakling in front of her.. There has to be growth in RK's character on this front...They can't butcher his character by making Dipali stronger and stronger and him weaker and weaker...

I rest my case here...

P.S: I needed to get this out of my system.. This has been plaguing my mind since y'day night..

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