Episode 144 Discussion: 12th Dec 2012 - Page 5

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I like the work of the CVs with RK's character so far. I mean I was wondering for the past few episodes as to why they were changing the basic nature of RK. Why was RK going the stereotypical mushy lover boy way, slowly but steadily. The RK, as the show started, was portrayed to be a self-centered, remorseless, selfish, inhuman, insensitive, arrogant, haughty, conceited, and a man full of the "I" attitude (please add more adjectives as they come to your mind, all of them will fit our man, positive or negative). We viewers were glued to the screen smitten by his looks, awed by his attitude, enamored by his absolute tyrannical behavior, bewildered by his arrogance and ruthlessness, and yet were drawn to him like magnets. Everyday the character unleashed layers of dark shades taking us all to a point of curiosity wherein we wanted to see the depth of the man and we wanted to unravel the causes that resulted in this human's change of colors, moods, and priorities in life. The fleeting change of emotions that almost overruns the change of his clothes and accessories for a song sequence in his movie.

Slowly we gotta peek into his past and learnt almost all that that laid the base for the person that he is today. Alright. Makes sense. Then cupid strikes him. He is in denial full time in the beginning for all the obvious reasons. But then whenever he realized the purity and innocence of the love that his queen bee exhibited, he had no choice but to fall prey to it ultimately. He was all the way to confessing his new found glorious victory in finding his TRUE LOVE finally with the absolute person. But alas, his very own home-grown serpent came slithering into the lion's den to rub the salt on to the latter's slowly-healing but very much alive wound. She did not miss her target when she calculatively spewed her venom.

The gold-digger did what she intended to do but what was astounding was the fact how come RK, the man of his own character and mind, could give into her taunts and challenges? Who and why is he trying to test? What and how is he going to prove? I felt so disappointed when he got easily triggered by Dips. How can he be so gullible?

All my questions came clouding and halted at one point. To whom is he trying to prove whatever he set himself to prove about Madhu? Dipali. What is she to him now? To him, she is a mere deceiver, gold-digger, disreputable, strumpet. She is one of those few people in his life whom he thinks are gold-diggers and fickle-minded people with volatile emotions. Then why should her words have any effect on him? The world has no effect on him but the people who deceived him and his emotions still had a hold on him because there is this burning desire within him that is waiting for a revenge and waiting to prove them all wrong about his life. That he is not affected by them as much as they all thought they did. He wants to prove that he can find love and happiness that is pure and that the love he will find will be for the Rishab he is and not for the outward RK that he is to the world. He wants to prove to himself and them that the hurt that he bore by these people are only superficial and by proving them wrong he can fill the wound and put them all out of his love life once and for all. Another reason for his insecurity could be the fact that although both have started to develop love for each other, neither of them confessed to each other. There is a mild element of uncertainty and doubt of rejection or misconception. He wants to ensure their stands on that front too. Hence I think he got ignited by Dipali's baits.

Lighter moments of the day:

Kukuji was at his best today. I laughed heartily at his interception when Radhaji was about to break her dam of tears.😆
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I loved the way the security guards dogging the three leeches were put to use. Is this called closing of loops?😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hey girls,

I am in deep shit here. Mighty production problems on the floor with some stupid client's algo engine clogging the system with endless and insane pumping of orders to a closed market.

So working through it and it will be sometime before I will be able to write my full length review. I liked a lot of things in today's episode.

Although I ranted, I have to say the drama is A class. I rate the episode A.

Madhu was deadly with her threat to Dipali. Seems this is the end of Dipali. I get that feel. Madhu 👍🏼

That way Madhu threatened Dips as why she was not in her room and was in RK's room, sure seemed odd to Sikky today 👏

RK was at his weakest today. 🤢
I am not liking it that his logic failed and his insecurities clogged his mind, but truly, the CVs justified today, why initially the entire forum thought RK was sexually not developed (at least I thought so, and we had META discussion on that at great length) when he brought Madhu to his room and he could not deal with Dips directly. Dips keeps coming to his room so naturally as that is her own room...shows his weakness. So the CVs are infact doing a loop closure on RK. His problem is where it is, so they are now forcing him to address it. Although scapegoat is becoming Madhu here, and it makes us all see RK in bad light. But then that initial diagnosis we had towards RK's is now coming right. The unresolved sexual tension and mental tension needs to be addressed. I once said RK always looks being bullied by Dips. The same thing happened again and this time consequences are quite shameless. Each time RK got away with Dips when Madhu made her presence like her being in the house, or reaching his room. Today she was not there...and even as RK reached for Dips throat, she jinxed his happiness and he took it to his heart which he says is dead and we know it is not.

Now the weak Rishabh is forcing RK to become scheming and go for proving his logic to world's deceits. So Rishabh is making RK to test his Dimaag ka Rishta. Basically Dips played the Satan today. Hence, didn't I say from last two days that Dips looks deadly ? And that RK needs a Kaala teeka ? There is this negative energy that his mind is not strong enough to oppose it.

So my title continues ...The Nagging and Dogging Baggage Needs to be Burned-Part 2

I will write a good one later...as it is more for me than you all 😆 I need to add the post over my blog.

Anyone interested to read what we discussed earlier on RK in September. Peach knows this. Some others also know.


Not sure if the blog can be viewed by everyone. Just try it.

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And if that was not a spectacle to watch, we have another mute drama to watch. The Superstar RK whose mouth is never closed and utters bombastic dialogues and taunts and every ready to yell or scream, he gets tongue-tied when a certain family member Deepali leaves not a moment to seduce him. And she was not even a Siren if you ask me, but our RK had an attack of consternation.
This lead me to conclude that Rishabh Kundra is not a fully sexually developed man and to be more specific. He grew up too fast, leaving gaping holes on his psyche. I had this conversation going on with Jackie, FQ and FG earlier, which I am going to paste in my next post.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soundarya22

Today's episode deserves a rant...raving rant!!!

All along, reading the articles, I thought there is a catch somewhere, RK will not lower himself by believing a word of what Dipali says. But he does, he did... and they try to create a roundabout justification for his extreme insecurity by saying he will never have love in his life, because he has lost everyone he loved, including Dipali herself😡😡😡.

I kept saying this was a loophole, that he said at the lake scene that he had loved her at some point. I really wish I had been proved wrong. All his affection towards madhu is to prove to Dipali that he has found someone, so she can stay with Sikky??

Yesterday I did say that he needs to get over this whole 'love' thing with Dipali. But not by testing Madhu. That is so unfair. She is being used as a pawn by him, yes, the dark RK is truly back.


Summary:
Madhu, Radhaji, Bhatias wait around to hear about RK. He is missing, phone switched off and noone including Bittuji knows where he is.
The spy on Dipali reports that Dipali met him for around half an hour before he left. So Madhu walks close to her and warns her...that if RK has gone away hurt at something she said, she will regret it. I loved Madhu's attitude. I wish that spy had written down what she did say to RK.
RK is at his farmhouse, remembers madhu's dhoka question to him that morning. Indeed, this is dhoka , acc to me. Now I realise the significance of that word.
He recollects Dipali's words...everything that you have read in the articles...you have always failed in love, always lost people you loved, your father, your mother and Dipali!! Do you think Madhu loves Rishabh, no she loves all the trappings of your superstar status, which is why she still calls you RK and not Rishabh.
RK reiterates his faith in Madhu...but Dipali throws him a challenge...leave your current life, go to a place where you are anonymous, ask madhu to come with you, let's see if she is willing. Prove it to me, that she loves you and not your superstar status.
And RK accepts the challenge!!! This is what is unbelievable and completely out of character. A person like RK, who people tremble to talk to, cows down to Dipali...what a strong hold she has on him!!! Why was'nt the story called...Dipali, EK Ishq EK Junoon!!!
RK seemed so flustered and defensive...he says she gave him blood, saved him, therefore she loves him, bunkum!!!
What happened to the dialogue he gave Bittuji, about how she, being an ordinary girl dragged him to jail, threw his liquor out etc etc. Why could'nt he say, the marriage was a forced one, he made her marry him...in the first place. How could she be after his money and status???

That passionate declaration of love to Madhu is conditional, to prove something to Dipali, that is it. No wonder he will never accept anything Madhu has to say. He does'nt yet love Madhu, in fact , I feel like going as far as saying, somewhere he still loves Dipali!!!

So while Trishna accuses Madhu of dreaming of a happy marriage with RK at the cost of her family, Dipali accuses Madhu of loving RK for his superstar status.

Madhu has to prove that she loves her family and she has to prove to RK that she loves him. RK can then prove to Dipali that she will leave everything and come with him, and he has his love intact.Obviously, they are going to have a huge conflict and misunderstanding. He deserves a separation from madhu. 😡

I really really hope this track is not a long one...it is going to be one agonising track.

Really sorry, guys for the above rant, don't even know if I made sense, but today's episode and the track they're starting, is one of those exasperating ones!!! In one shot, RK's character has become weak and powerless. Why have the CVs done this to him???


Pre-cap: Great dialogues, but I am not excited. This is him testing Madhu, for Dipali, not RK confessing his love for Madhu.





wohi toh...is it SO difficult to say both the things ? itna hi toh bolna hai "i love you RK but padmini ko convince karna hai, after that i will come with you wherever u say " 1 line in 2 seconds ! 🤣 but nahi, kuch toh hoga ..she will not speak up just when it's needed..at the time of "THE MOMENT" of her life...

nopes, he is confessing and he's doing it for Madhu only n yahi unko jodkar rakhega hamesha even if they part ways... ❤️ G'bye n sweet dreams

BTW i made a VM on another song frm delhi belly..a dedication to RK's horny bhabhi 😎 Page 4
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Now I'm certain that I will remember 12/12/12, after all it was "DoomsDay" compliments of Dipshit, or better yet "Hurricane Dipali touched down in RK land" 🤢🤢🤢!!!

@Tanu, AA, and Himbin completely loved your reviews!!! Awesome analysis, and loved every line you guys wrote 👏👏👏. I completely agree that Dipali was used as a distasteful prop to stir doubtful emotions in RK; however, RK testing Madhu's love (if he ever does? The optimistic side of me places the question) is mainly for his own self reassurance. The man is in the process of falling for Madhu, but this time he wants to land safely, actually he wants his landing to be painless. I just hope that when RK embarks on his next journey of confession and trial of Madhu's love, he will remember his own spoken words: This time I will not lose!!!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nice takes everyone. Surprising episode hence the mixed responses too. But I liked the episode today. I wanted to give individual responses to some of the takes but am feeling very sleepy. Will catchup in the morning my time. Take care.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Good going so far in discussion

I think Madhu should call his bluff. If he says leave everything and come with me, she should say let's go

Madhu has been brought up in the environment where struggle is daily life. She is very well versed with what it takes to earn a decent living. She can again take up being a beautician job but what about RK?

What can he do? No longer a superstar getting his own way, what does he know about how aam aadmi lives? Can he face daily struggles, face criticism, insults and superiority of others when he is so used to being in the lap of luxury all the time?

He has no right to put Madhu to test when this has been a forced marriage to begin with. It was a business deal and emotional trust cannot be based on such foundations...



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Posted: 12 years ago
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"Sitaron ke aagey jahan aur bhi hai, Ishq mein imtihan aur bhi hai"

It was quite an amazing episode with RK-Dipali's convo being the highlight..

Dipali was too good with her mashkari that it looked like RK was talking with the Rishabh... Aaj Dipali was such a shaatir khiladi ki mere zubaan se sirf ek hi baat nikalti hai "kya baat ,kya baat, kya baat!!"

As she said, she had nothing to win and nothing to lose and she hit the bulls eye today...

She slowly but tactfully brought out the Rishabh out of RK...It was the loser Rishabh standing there in front of her and answering her.

She reminded him of the curse of love in his life.. Only he talks about his wounds, he doesn't even let Madhu address those wounds... But here DIpali brought them completely out in the open thus exposing the vulnerable,weak Rishabh. She never lied today. She cleverly said that Madhu does a sachcha wala pyar with RK... Dipali then tells him to prove their love and needles him saying that are you scared that you would be proven wrong like every other time to which he replies that "Is baar nahin haroonga main". RK kabhi haarta nahin hai par Rishabh is a loser..

In all this, it is not that he doubts Madhu's love for him. RK knows that what Dipali said about him was true... This ishq ka imtihan is Rishabh's inner most desire/craving which he wants fulfilled and RK's dimaagi sach that he wants be proven wrong which would lead to his junoon...

The CV's are back to portraying the true grey-shaded nature of RK...

Am actually excited as to what the future is going to unravel to us...

Aside: I loved Dipali's dialogues today and RK-Dipz scene was just too awesome...
"Har kisi ko mukammal jahan nahin milta, kisiko sab kuch mil jaata hai par pyaar nahin milta"
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Posted: 12 years ago
#48
Sorry to butt in like this...some of you may remember me from way back when.😊

I admit that I'm not the keenest watcher of this show but even I sat with my jaws open today!

Did I miss something vital in the story? Like when did it become important for RK to believe that Madhu loves him for real..leave alone the fact that she loves him at all? And, that too without him undergoing the process of realization of his love for her.

The last time I saw, he was one confused man trying to understand the sudden change in his wife and I didn't see him introspect at all over the issue.

So what happened since then? Did he wake up one morning and have an epiphany?

Sorry, but I just didn't get today's episode. What was the reason for it?

And I think it's utterly despicable to profess love to someone without really meaning it and to do so just to test them.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: pippa

Sorry to butt in like this...some of you may remember me from way back when.😊

I admit that I'm not the keenest watcher of this show but even I sat with my jaws open today!

Did I miss something vital in the story? Like when did it become important for RK to believe that Madhu loves him for real..leave alone the fact that she loves him at all? And, that too without him undergoing the process of realization of his love for her.

The last time I saw, he was one confused man trying to understand the sudden change in his wife and I didn't see him introspect at all over the issue.

So what happened since then? Did he wake up one morning and have an epiphany?

Sorry, but I just didn't get today's episode. What was the reason for it?

And I think it's utterly despicable to profess love to someone without really meaning it and to do so just to test them.

I dont know if my answer is correct.. I am assuming that you saw RK mentioning about Kanjaatma.. Kanjaatma made RK realise that Madhu loves him.. And also that he loves Madhu.. The same Kanjatma is now making RK test Madhu... I know you didnt understand anything.. Well, same here... Its a roundabout way of saying I dont know... 😆

Maybe tomorrow they will show RK reading Madhu daal soaked letter...


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Posted: 12 years ago
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After watching today's episode, all I could think about is: Does trust gets abandoned completely upon arrival of love 😕? Please feel free to answer.

I have always admired RK's trust in Madhu; it was the essence of their relationship. When love and affection was absent, trust had a strong appearance in their relationship. It was the beautiful bond of trust that made RK open himself up to Madhu, and let her see the Rishab inside. So where was all of that trust today??? One blow from Hurricane Dipshit and the bond became a history 😲??? I'm still not certain how RK will confess his love tomorrow; promos have been misleading in the past. However, if he decides to go ahead and organize a trial for Madhu's love, he better act as fair judge and understandable jury, and not some a$$.

I'm emotionally drained due to some work projects, and today Dipali sucked whatever energy was left in me 🤢🤢🤢. Shri, I totally get your reference towards negative energy and its unlimited power, great analogy and of course wonderful reviews as always 👏.

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