Episode 144 Discussion: 12th Dec 2012 - Page 3

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gurtiluv

But one thing is true this third pary involved has been killed in serials theycant come up with anything new to create conflict.


Sorry Now im gonna go on my rant.

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Ekta Kapoor first used it to in Kahi to hoga which she called her television version of devdas. but would she didnt get was it was never a third party thatcame between dev and paro it was class warefar, morals, self-respectand pride that came betweenthem. Paro never shared any kind of relationship with her huspand and Devdas never falls for Chandermuki in the novel he does in the movie somewhat except her.There was no misunderstanding between them about love ever it was just a question of pride.But in Kahi toh hoga it was Piyush, KYPH it was Pritvi, Geet it was Dev, IPKKND it was Shyam. Time to come up with new concepts ppl instead of just misunderstanding and third parties.


Sona,
you are so right.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Why any man in his true senses, would test a woman, who has apparently not confessed her love till now ?? Just bocs Dips said that Madhu loves him, and he assumed it so in few flash backs and he is sure that Madhu loves him.😕 its like Dips knows how to evoke every single emotion in RK. ...wow ...What a control over Superstar RK ?? She knows how to instigate his inner fears, thereby blinding his rational self.

PS> So RK did give Madhu 'Dhoka' today by not turning up for the lunch intentionally doubting her ...
Edited by Manonids - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Disclaimer: Ranty post ...My apologies to all but need to get this out of my system....



Its crappy of RK to even accept Dipali's challenge to prove it to her ? Who is she to him ? God! this man still has Dips higher than Madhu. 😡 😡😡 😡 Ugly !!!
Clunk plot or Clunk RK ? 🤢 🤢🤢

Now ranting on myself...to give credit to RK and writers that they will keep everything intact. 😡😡


And now rationalizing to myself...so RK all these days you were using Madhu as your feather in the cap to get back at Dips ? 😔 Madhu I am so with you, Leave this guy and deal with your agenda first whatever you have... 😳

Atleast Madhu questioned Dipali. This should be the last thing that Dipali does anything for this couple. Else, I don't know what I am going to do...

ETA
Well at least I was right about something. The "RK love confession" is no confession at all...purely his scheming to elicit the appropriate response from Madhu towards Dips challenge to RK. RK you need to lose. You just need to lose. And let Dipali smirk at you all way to hell !!!!

Charu ...That song is so apt...Jaa Chudail...Go to Hell. RK should leave Madhu alone and first let him deal with his Deary Dips Bhatia 🤣 🤣

Another ETA:
Gosh! this is so much like 60 and 70's melodrama and misunderstanding between love story. The dancing hero has to misunderstand his cute heroine.under any miserable and ridiculous circumstance.

Shri- you said everything I wanted to- how RK can still believe Diputz is beyond me- guess he's still far more broken than I thought.
In a way this is good, I suppose, whatever happens, as you said, Madhu and RK need to defeat their individuals demons by themselves before embarking on a new life together.
Also, in a sense his love confession makes sense...it's part manipulation, and part desperation. When Madhu "dissapoints" him, I am almost sure that desperation will begin to have an ugly taint because of RK's obssesiveness regarding Madhu. We'll see where it goes from there.
Hopefully the CV's won't dissapoint us.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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My last rant on this thread for the day:

I feel this track is somewhere going towards MB's stardom, as Dips pointed that she is behind his stardom. So, once Madhu unintentionally proves it, the old RK might force her to taste the bitter pill of stardom as a punishment. ( Perhaps Ballu might play some role in infusing this thought in RK's mind to take revenge from her like the way he influenced him in Jail against MB)...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manonids

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"> Why any man in his true senses, would test a woman, who has apparently not confessed her love till now ?? Just bocs Dips said that Madhu loves him, and he assumed it so in few flash backs and he is sure that Madhu loves him.😕 its like Dips knows how to evoke every single emotion in RK. ...wow ...What a control over Superstar RK ?? She knows how to instigate his inner fears, thereby blinding his rational self.</font>


<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">PS> So RK did give Madhu 'Dhoka' today by not turning up for the lunch intentionally doubting her ...</font>



Exactly my thoughts. How can he just assume that Madhu is in love with him. He forced this marriage on her, she didn't come running to him. He vowed to destroy her life, to make it living hell, openly so many times. He humiliated her in front of every single person. Where love was impossible, there Madhu saved this mans life so many times. On the second day after their wedding, in the studio when that equipment was about to fall on RK, Madhu could have easily let him die. Because back at that time, there was no attraction, no eyelocks, only pure hatred. And even then she didn't. Now, so unexpectedly, she has fallen in love with him. And he wants to test her? Thats not done.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: anastasia21



Exactly my thoughts. How can he just assume that Madhu is in love with him. He forced this marriage on her, she didn't come running to him. He vowed to destroy her life, to make it living hell, openly so many times. He humiliated her in front of every single person. Where love was impossible, there Madhu saved this mans life so many times. On the second day after their wedding, in the studio when that equipment was about to fall on RK, Madhu could have easily let him die. Because back at that time, there was no attraction, no eyelocks, only pure hatred. And even then she didn't. Now, so unexpectedly, she has fallen in love with him. And he wants to test her? Thats not done.


Yeah ...and even though he too told Dips about Ganpathi Visarjan issue, it now seems it was more like from his mind and his heart till now had doubts that Madhu might have done it with some ulterior motive. He had his logics in front but his heart rejected all of them and his insecurities took full control over him... Sigh ...I wished they could have avoided Dips angle here to test Madhu. I fear what kind of reaction this harsh truth will evoke in Madhu later!! What kind of love it is when there is no trust ??
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i know everybody is in a bad mood today...i hope this cheers you up a little bit..i enjoyed making it 😎

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2-_KVlg9Lg&feature=plcp[/YOUTUBE]
Edited by _charu_ - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I am so glad,i am not the only one ranting and raving,i totally disliked todays episode and i totally hate the influence RK allows Dipali to have over him and now i am beginning to hate RK-Dipali conversations,cos it seems like he is still under her wicked power.Its one thing that Rishbala love comes with the baggage of his ex-dipali,and madhu has to bear it and its unbearable that every action of RK,has to be a reaction to dipali's taunt.I dont want the ishq and junoon's catalyst to be dipali or trishna-period.I think it is high time madhu test RK's love for dipali,whether he still has the hots for her,i am getting innumerable doubts regarding this issue.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Am I the only one who is not too upset with the way the story went?

What do we expect from a woman like Dipali? She knows that she has lost the battle' Madhu's faith in RK and their relationship is getting stronger each day. Yesterday when I saw Dipali not getting agitated with RK being lost in Madhu's world it was clear she was going for the kill. She wanted a moment like that to strike and the moment was perfect. Dipali is smart, though she maintained that Madhu doesn't love him the emphasis was more on RK not being fortunate enough to find love.

I didn't find RK's insecurity out of place. It is obvious he will be on guard especially after he has been let down by 3 people he loved... worse the 2 of the 3 are very much a part of his life. Another reason is his history with Madhu. Their story is no fairy tale! I still don't understand how easy was it for the couple to brush the past under the carpet and behave as if everything in their world is perfect. They need to sort their past for peace in their relationship.

From what I could make out of RK's reactions... I don't think he will accept the challenge and put Madhu to test to prove it to Dipali. But yes, he needs to strengthen his belief that Madhu is there for him. Being with a guy like RK is never going to be easy and no one understands it better than Madhu. He is broken man... it will take a while for him to heal completely and come around... though he is making a remarkable progress. Their love will give her strength to see this through.

I have a lot of faith in Rishab's ability to love and trust. The fact that he has allowed himself to trust Madhu and has the guts to accept that he loves her hours after being told he is not destined to be loved is commendable. It gives me the confidence that he values love above all. However this time around the need to know it will last for eternity is palpable. It is perfectly fine to expect your soulmate to hold your hand and assure you she is always going to be there. This is all that RK is craving for and there is no reason why Madhu will not do it

Edited by tanu07 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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So, I've been brooding a bit over the episode and thought I would write down my thoughts. Again.
I would like to think that this confession, which is all about Madhu proving to RK that she loves him above everything is less about Dips and more about RK himself. In other words, Diputz mainly stirred fears that were already there-perhaps not in RK's heart, but definately in Rishab Kundra's mind. So Madhu leaving with him is not RK proving to Diputz that someone loves him, despite what he says to her (i'm basing this on the fact that to understand RK one must look at his actions, not his words), but RK proving to himself that someone can love him despite his trappings. As to logic- I'm going with the theory that with someone like RK, for whom emotion is always an extreme, once those emotions are roused, then logic flies out the widow. I hate that fact that Diputz was used as the catalyst, but at the same time, am hoping that her function will now be decreased- she has served her purpose, and now CV's will use other people to act as obstacles.
As to RK knowing Madhu loves him- I think he always did, at some level. He was aware that she had feelings for and has taken action to prevent them from maturing. But the fact that she was going to let him kiss her, the fact that she did KC for him, and many other factors- yes, it was obvious that he knew. I don't think he loves her fully yet- he's possesive, he's obsessive, and he wants her to be his fully. But that's not love. Love requries trust. And RK does not trust Madhu. I don't think RK even trusts himself- if he did, he would not be instigated, now matter what. Love will come as trust grows. Until then, it's junoon- and junoon without love has dark and ugly connotations.
Edit: I should add here- RK trusts Madhubala. RK does not trust Madhubala's love. And RK does not trust that her love is pure. How is this logical? Well, my answer is simple: We are all fools in love.
One thing I found interesting-forget that he took up the challenge- he's RK, he could not not take it up- its about proving to himself that someone loves him, so yes, I can swallow it. What I found interesting was what he said: "I will not lose again."
That sentence makes one thing clear to me: When RK thinks that Madhu does not love him, has infact started to love the trappings of a superstar's life, he's not going to let go of her. He's going to make her love him, he's going to make himself Madhu's first priority. RK is going to make himself Madhu's god. My thinking for what he's going to do? Break her to make her. The sculpture and what one of promos said strikes me now: He builds Madhu's sculpture and colors it with his blood, and in the promo he tells her "This camera is now your world. Leave everything else. This is now your world." Madhu is RK's galatea, willing or unwilling. And RK will never let her go.
CV's bring it on, I just hope you do it well, but one request- for the love of Pete, stop using Dips. She's done her part and now should be part of the past. Keep her on my screen, but give other characters a chance to become obstacles.
Edited by apolloartemis - 12 years ago

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