Episode 144 Discussion: 12th Dec 2012 - Page 4

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Loved what u wrote ,AA.
I would love the scenario u presented,sans DIPs as the obstacle.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Good discussion here so far.

Just saw this on youtube.

RK is very insecure which Dipali knows and using this to her advantage. She has no personal gain from this except to see RK-n-Madhu life disrupted.

Madhu's character is always thinking of others and now she wants to fix his relationship with his mother and her relatioship with Mallik et al. She is more mature than RK ever was. So on some level, RK may be jealous of her bonding with others. He is so much in love of his role as victim where everyone leaves him, he cannot see beyond that.

So sad that in spite of her good deeds and intentions Madhu's future life is rife with more heartaches. :-((

Sub khatm hoke bhi kuch to baki hai or rahega if this is how RK continues...


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Plot wise this episode was kind of a letdown for me. Because this show is devoid of cliches. That's what makes it unique and enjoyable. But today it decided to take a leaf out of the K-Dramas.

RK is the soul of this show. Despite his faults, he is a man of honor. He decided to draw truce with a man who did try to kill him thrice. For Madhu and also because somewhere he knew he is the reason behind Mallik's transformation. When Madhu had every reason to want him dead, she fell in love with him. RK, you are arrogant but you were never unreasonable. I understand, when it comes to the matter of heart, logic takes a backseat. But if your insecurities are getting a better hold of you, then why not first ask this question that whether Madhu really loves you at all or are all these doings of a kind girl for another human being.

The most surprising and disappointing thing in RK's behavior today was he clarified every point Dipali raised. But in the end, he couldn't even trust his own judgment! Why?! Because Dipali's move was impeccable? I don't think so because Dipali took a risky gamble. It could have gone either way. RK was the one who responded. He certainly remembers that this is the same woman who tried to poison his wife not many days ago. He of all people should know that Dipali is not there out of goodness of her heart, she is there to destroy anything she can lay her hands upon. And in spite of this, he stoops down to HER level to disprove HER point!!

So this is a conditional confession and a two-way trap for Madhu. What can she possible say that is going to satisfy RK's expectation? (A) "Yes I love you" => " So now prove its not for my stardom and money" OR (B) "No I don't" => all hell breaks loose.

And however insecure you are, you just can't provide a hypothetical and almost unrealistic situation and ask a person to react to that accordingly.

Edited by anastasia21 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i guessed it right.on 10th dec. itself tht something bad is gonna happen...right now, therez only one wish that pagal Trishna ka curse doesn't come true..🤢 what are we here for? if her life, her love and relationship with RK is cursed? tht's really not done..i hate sadist shows..i hate being associated with MB then ..i shouldn't have started watching it 😭

the epi. is good and i'm exited abt the confession..i know i'm sound crazy n foolish but i do...perhaps this is gonna be the last good scene b/w them before CV's make an attempt to unite them ..n they better do that!

Dipali..i actually liked what she said...it's a universal truth ke sabko sab kuch nahi milta..the tragical life of celebs, innumerable cases, too many breakups, too many heartbreaks..they r surrounded by this insecurity 24X7 that they may never find the true "love" !! they don't lead a normal life like all of us...

it's foolish that RK believed her and decided to test Madhu but i always said tht it's more of his fear than Dips..he was defending Madhu but he himself was not sure about it, that means he doesn't trust MAdhu completely... love need not be tested, yes, but only where there is trust , honesty and sharing which RK AND Madhu never did !

i see BOTH of them at fault here...i'm feeling very tired.will come back tomorrow...

@leela, take a bow ! ur take was outstanding..👏👏

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: tanu07

Am I the only one who is not too upset with the way the story went?

What do we expect from a woman like Dipali? She knows that she has lost the battle' Madhu's faith in RK and their relationship is getting stronger each day. Yesterday when I saw Dipali not getting agitated with RK being lost in Madhu's world it was clear she was going for the kill. She wanted a moment like that to strike and the moment was perfect. Dipali is smart, though she maintained that Madhu doesn't love him the emphasis was more on RK not being fortunate enough to find love.

I didn't find RK's insecurity out of place. It is obvious he will be on guard especially after he has been let down by 3 people he loved... worse the 2 of the 3 are very much a part of his life. Another reason is his history with Madhu. Their story is no fairy tale! I still don't understand how easy was it for the couple to brush the past under the carpet and behave as if everything in their world is perfect. They need to sort their past for peace in their relationship.

From what I could make out of RK's reactions... I don't think he will accept the challenge and put Madhu to test to prove it to Dipali. But yes, he needs to strengthen his belief that Madhu is there for him. Being with a guy like RK is never going to be easy and no one understands it better than Madhu. He is broken man... it will take a while for him to heal completely and come around... though he is making a remarkable progress. Their love will give her strength to see this through.

I have a lot of faith in Rishab's ability to love and trust. The fact that he has allowed himself to trust Madhu and has the guts to accept that he loves her hours after being told he is not destined to be loved is commendable. It gives me the confidence that he values love above all. However this time around the need to know it will last for eternity is palpable. It is perfectly fine to expect your soulmate to hold your hand and assure you she is always going to be there. This is all that RK is craving for and there is no reason why Madhu will not do it

Thanks Tanu.. I feel so much better after reading this..

@All.. Read the rest in the eve..


Edited by applenpeaches - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: eshasrk



I feel instead of listening to Dipshit , why didn't RK think for a second what Madhu did for him...in spite of being humiliated by him so horribly , she fulfilled her duties as his wife esp after he was shot !!!
She could have easily made him die and she would walk away scotfree without someone blaming her...the contract would be over, she would be free from him and have her azaadi and no one would even know who killed RK and Madhu could join her family happily and live in peace after that...
But no !!!! She prefered to stay by his side, she prefered to fulfill her duties as a wife and RK still needs proof ???!!!!
Only becoz that shameless Dipshit says so ????


THIS, THIS is the exact reason why Dips made him think that Madhu loves his stardom ! any girl in Madhu's place will NOT love RK 😆 kahe ki wifey duties?? she as a human being was humiliated and trashed ! Madhu did it bec. when she started knowing the real Rishabh, she developed a liking for him which eventually turned into love, which she never expressed to RK what she's going through...i so so wish that they had not come to this stage of confession right now...first start liking each other as a person and start TALKING ! then comes the next step, caring, sharing , being honest and truthful to each other, then comes the test of love...they r not college students to fall in love first and then know the kind of relationship they r in 😵 have we even seen them conversing about their families or each other? 🤢 in that case, it's obvious to misunderstand each other, BOTH of them.
Edited by _charu_ - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#37
Just caught up with 3 weeks episodes after coming back from India trip !! So much has happened in this story.

Watched today's episode and can understand everyone's rant. But I found it very interesting and fascinating.

"Vinasha Kale Vipareetha Buddhi" -
When times are bad, your sense abandons you. That's what happened today to RK. We wanted RK to be above board, but men/women are rarely so, especially the great ones are also seriously flawed.

Nothing to do with this story, but it brought to my mind "Mahabharata" &"Ramayana" , it is such an amazing chronicle of great men and their weaknesses and the consequences.

Kunti - she's great Dharmic queen, but abandons her child Karna
Karna - He's Dhana, Veera but his weakness is his birth, so eternally grateful to Duryodhana for giving him stature so aids Duryodhana in all his plans
Bheeshma, Drona - Great men but keep quiet during Draupadi vastraharan
Duryodhana - Great warrior but jealousy destroys him and the whole Kuru dynasty
Kaikeyi - Loved Rama like her son but listened to Manthara.

And of course Lord Rama himself, testing his wife at the talk of a Dhobi. Was he less great because he did it??


It's fascinating play of Free Will vs Fate. Everyone has free will to act, but sometimes fate makes your mind take wrong decisions, totally against your character or what you stand for.

The RK who believed Madhu in Malik case was not vulnerable and so thinks with a clear mind and hence his absolute trust in Madhu.

The RK who listens to Dipali - is vulnerable and afraid of this new found love. This fear drives him to test Madhu. It's irrational but I find it very believable.

It's such a mystery how human mind acts, that too totally out of character making strong people weak and sensible people act stupid.








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Posted: 12 years ago
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tomorrow if Madhu keeps quiet or drags her useless "family" excuse in b/w them i'm gonna sunaofy her left right and center..somebody plz shake her up... she was looking ekdum clueless in the confession scene ! she needs to get a grip on her life and start practicing the "biwi ka haq" fully ! DO NOT go away from him even if he says so !! 😭 but i know ke aisa kuch nahi hoga...she was dressed up for the chawl in the morning and lo, might end up there in the night...jaao jaake Padmini ko samjhao ke she should go back to Malik..this is more important 🤢.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: tanu07

Am I the only one who is not too upset with the way the story went?

What do we expect from a woman like Dipali? She knows that she has lost the battle' Madhu's faith in RK and their relationship is getting stronger each day. Yesterday when I saw Dipali not getting agitated with RK being lost in Madhu's world it was clear she was going for the kill. She wanted a moment like that to strike and the moment was perfect. Dipali is smart, though she maintained that Madhu doesn't love him the emphasis was more on RK not being fortunate enough to find love.

I didn't find RK's insecurity out of place. It is obvious he will be on guard especially after he has been let down by 3 people he loved... worse the 2 of the 3 are very much a part of his life. Another reason is his history with Madhu. Their story is no fairy tale! I still don't understand how easy was it for the couple to brush the past under the carpet and behave as if everything in their world is perfect. They need to sort their past for peace in their relationship.

From what I could make out of RK's reactions... I don't think he will accept the challenge and put Madhu to test to prove it to Dipali. But yes, he needs to strengthen his belief that Madhu is there for him. Being with a guy like RK is never going to be easy and no one understands it better than Madhu. He is broken man... it will take a while for him to heal completely and come around... though he is making a remarkable progress. Their love will give her strength to see this through.

I have a lot of faith in Rishab's ability to love and trust. The fact that he has allowed himself to trust Madhu and has the guts to accept that he loves her hours after being told he is not destined to be loved is commendable. It gives me the confidence that he values love above all. However this time around the need to know it will last for eternity is palpable. It is perfectly fine to expect your soulmate to hold your hand and assure you she is always going to be there. This is all that RK is craving for and there is no reason why Madhu will not do it

Very well said 👏

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: kodai

Just caught up with 3 weeks episodes after coming back from India trip !! So much has happened in this story.


Watched today's episode and can understand everyone's rant. But I found it very interesting and fascinating.

"Vinasha Kale Vipareetha Buddhi" -
When times are bad, your sense abandons you. That's what happened today to RK. We wanted RK to be above board, but men/women are rarely so, especially the great ones are also seriously flawed.

Nothing to do with this story, but it brought to my mind "Mahabharata" &"Ramayana" , it is such an amazing chronicle of great men and their weaknesses and the consequences.

Kunti - she's great Dharmic queen, but abandons her child Karna
Karna - He's Dhana, Veera but his weakness is his birth, so eternally grateful to Duryodhana for giving him stature so aids Duryodhana in all his plans
Bheeshma, Drona - Great men but keep quiet during Draupadi vastraharan
Duryodhana - Great warrior but jealousy destroys him and the whole Kuru dynasty
Kaikeyi - Loved Rama like her son but listened to Manthara.

And of course Lord Rama himself, testing his wife at the talk of a Dhobi. Was he less great because he did it??


It's fascinating play of Free Will vs Fate. Everyone has free will to act, but sometimes fate makes your mind take wrong decisions, totally against your character or what you stand for.

The RK who believed Madhu in Malik case was not vulnerable and so thinks with a clear mind and hence his absolute trust in Madhu.

The RK who listens to Dipali - is vulnerable and afraid of this new found love. This fear drives him to test Madhu. It's irrational but I find it very believable.

It's such a mystery how human mind acts, that too totally out of character making strong people weak and sensible people act stupid.



lovely post 👏 i wanted to say the same thing that even Gods never had a perfect life ! Rama was cursed to live separately with his wife..he was cursed that his raaj paath will be taken away and when he will get it back, he will lose his wife ! he was THE perfect man with the perfect kundali..his and Sita's kundali had 36 gunas matching but they never had a good married life ! that way Dips ka kathan was correct..i remember someone somewhere predicted that Aamir khan's family life will always be turbulent..he will get everything in this world but not a peaceful personal life...

even if Madhu fails in the test or whateva, bhagwan ke liye , Rishabh, plz Madhu ko apna ishq aur junoon maankar apne saath rakhna...koi pyar hota hai aisa which is reciprocated but woh bhi pyar hota hai which is one sided..when he didn't let her go away when he hated her, he should not let go of her when he loves her 😭

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