Episode Discussion: 22nd Oct 2012

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Sonu

@applenpeaches

Dazzler

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Posted: 12 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

But Peach, I won't mind a little bit of handling complication when the man happens to be a hotty and he lets us be us...he is complicated only when someone touches him...by an by it will be okay... 😆

Whatever, SD.. I am not very happy with this guy today.. Granted he doesnt treat Madhu so badly now, but if he himself thinks he is better off dead, how will he ever learn to appreciate someone else in his life? Let me watch tonight and see if my opinion changes.. Otherwise I dont think I want to watch this show much longer.. I like love stories where the heroes arent so complicated (But I guess, you already know that)... I dont find anything even remotely romantic about such guys.. This revelation of RK is bound to kill my creativity.. Ha... I dont like it..

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Shridevi Gaddam

@0-SD-0

Rocker

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Posted: 12 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: applenpeaches

Whatever, SD.. I am not very happy with this guy today.. Granted he doesnt treat Madhu so badly now, but if he himself thinks he is better off dead, how will he ever learn to appreciate someone else in his life? Let me watch tonight and see if my opinion changes.. Otherwise I dont think I want to watch this show much longer.. I like love stories where the heroes arent so complicated (But I guess, you already know that)... I dont find anything even remotely romantic about such guys.. This revelation of RK is bound to kill my creativity.. Ha... I dont like it..

Don't know if it helps you anyways ...but this is what the guy revealed for the first time.

My tears were not stopping. My hurt was not going away. So I started to apply what my dad asked me ...to negate the pain and go on. I was ruthless with myself. I am successful to an extent. My tears have stopped, but I failed also...the hurt won't go away.

The ruthless man had steeled himself never to feel any pain or tears, but he sees that he is still moved. He used to think the he will return to goodness only with his Dad and because the Dad is not there, he is lost forever. But, today something else happened. He was moved and he was reminded not of his Dad's goodness, he was reminded or Madhu's trust in his goodness and her reassuring him of that.

The guy just needed two tracks to come to this point. Then separation track will lead to something else...Basically the guy is breaking up...his defenses are being broken by Madhu. So its not much of a complicated story anymore...its hurdles that have to be crossed now.

It needs one tease, one joke from caring people around us to shake ourselves out of our melancholy. Where the mother failed, Madhu is succeeding. Its easy enough now ...

The love story now needs a fresh and clean start after the separation track.

My 2 cents and I will definitely not influence you. We can have fun when RK feels confident about himself. I predicted last week itself, that when RK is in vulnerable state, he will do good things that will only make us feel the pain more, but all of it will be sweet and reasonable.

Then later on the fun starts ...with confident RK being back ...

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Munni_123

@Munni_123

Explorer

Posted: 12 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0
Peach & Sima,

>>>Does he think his life wasnt worth saving and so Madhu doesnt deserve a thanks?

Yes, RK thinks his life was not worth saving. That's for sure. That Madhu deserves thanks, he agrees with it, hence the count and later what he was sharing with her about his Dad.

I watched the episode in mute...but it does seem to have been another landmark moment between the two. The night unfolded lot of things ...

1) Sense of loss of RK continues to overwhelm Madhu. His not being RK, but a torn soul inside hurts her. Peace and normalcy will come to her only if she gets back to see her RK.

2) RK realizes that he too wants to care for Madhu ...not in his possessive sense for his Biwi, but just for the sake of Madhu - nothing for him. But he has to break walls ...which he doesn't want to.

3) Madhu taking matters of her heart in her own hand even if that means it is about RK and felling his walls. She tells him more clearly than she is able to tell her heart.

4) RK not going ballistic over Madhu's wishes with regards to him, is reticent. He knows she is not pitying him, its that he pities himself and doesn't deserve any good for him. He realizes that Madhu sees good in him, which he too had not known that much and it now overwhelms him he is capable of some good...

5) Madhu smiles when by the end of it, she gets to see her RK, who resists her, tries to be the bad guy and who cares for her inspite of himself. This is the guy she knows him to be...and he is back...alive.

And a special reference to Pillows
The pillows started as a security wall for Madhu. RK termed it as No man's land...Nafrat ke deewano ki beech ki dewaar.
Today that equation has changed. Its no longer a safety net wall for Madhu. Today, they are there for RK. Its a no man's land for RK. Its now pyaar ke deewano ki beech ki deewar.

So much for watching the episode in MUTE. What will happen when I watch at night with audio and listen to the male version of Hum Deewane !

Today, it was a very muddled RK-Rishabh Kundra. There was not much difference between the two. Madhu is getting to know him, happy to see him that way and Rishabh is not minding it to show it to her. Now its clearly a fight with himself before he can reach out to Madhu.

OMG!!! Lovely.

Nice analysis as usual SD!

@ Bold exactly my thoughts.

He has to fight with his own inner demons to reach out for Madhu and he knows it very well. I haven't seen VD's previous work but can say the role RK is tailor made for him.

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PreetD

@PreetD

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#14

So much to say and so much to love about this episode. The complete opposite of the lack of anything I was feeling when I watch Friday's show for the first time. Is it terrible that I'm sitting here, haven't even made breakfast but I've watched the episode more than once? Of course it is! It's terrible!

As I was reading through this post one thought came to mind, Sonu!! How could you even suggest that Madhu be with Mukund or anyone else? I don't know if we can be friends anymore if this is the stance you're going to take 😉

This, this is exactly how I saw that scene! He shared a very important part of himself with her today!!!

As for the not saying thank you SD had some spot on answers to your questions, I'm just going to add my take here. You're just going by the recap right? You haven't seen it yet? Well when he said today that he should apologize but is not going to Madhu had this look on her face, this little smile. She knew why he said that. It's like when he apologized to Madhu for turning off the lights and having forgotten she was afraid of the dark but instantly tried to be RK again and orders her gruffly back to the bad before he turns the lights off again. The sentiment is there and Madhu sees it. In this case I think actions speak louder than words.

Favourite moment - when RK reaches out to wipe away her tears but stops. His immediate reaction was to reach for her but then he caught himself just in time. That moment of weakness.. uff! I can't even explain it. That with the background track! Brilliant!

Favourite scenes - pretty much everything Rishabala from today! I loved their conversation, him admitting things he's likely never said to anyone. Him bringing up his father to try and offer her some comfort in his own way. The look into Rishabh under the mask of RK, I loved it. It's scenes like this why these two are going to fall in love. They did it so right today.

I had so much more to say regarding this but alas my stomach protests the lack of food in favour of Rishabala. Must give it some attention now.

Edited by PreetD - 12 years ago

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mrs.msk

@mrs.msk

Rocker

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Posted: 12 years ago

#15

Okay I am going to reply back according to what I think. I have not watched the episode yet so I am going to go from based on what I read and of what I understand of RK's character so far😳

Why wouldnt RK say thanks to Madhu? I can understand that he doesnt want to be beholden to anyone..

RK has big ego problem. He does not say thanks or sorry to anyone at all. If you noticed, the only time he said sorry to Madhu before when he humiliated her at the party only and only because of his dad. His mom chided him of not being able to become a man like his father had hoped he would become. He has no reason to say thanks or sorry to Madhu now.

Does he think his life wasnt worth saving and so Madhu doesnt deserve a thanks?

Maybe. Maybe he wants to "die" so that he can pay for his sins. He thinks he is somehow responsbile for his fathers death. When he was unconcious he kept saying "am sorry dad" "Why did you leave because of him" (I don't know the exact dialogue but you guys got what I am talking about) He tries to waste his life, the drinking every night, the carelessness he does sometimes. Whether he admits it or not he does not want to be here. So maybe that is why he doesn't say thanks to her.

Or does he think that he will be lowering his guard if he says thank you?

YES! He has already showed his weak side to Madhu whether he was unconscious or not..he does not want to show her that he is weak...

Or he doesnt like it that Madhu saved his life and for Madhu to come too close to him? But she did save his life and still he doesnt say thanks.. Would he have thanked Dips if she had been the one to save his life?

ahhaha him and saying thanks to Dips? ha I don't think he would..I think he would be rather disgusted that she saved his life since he hates dips so much for what she has done.

Or he is too egoistic.. Madhu run while you have the chance... 😆

Strange fellow.. Or maybe I didnt understand the written update?😕

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dramago

@dramago

Inactive

Posted: 12 years ago

#16

Wow..What an episode...full of Rishabala and their burning emotions to each other..

RK saying stop being so concerned ...I am fine...our Madhu pulling our ziddi boy's hand and doing the bandage...Uff..the whole episode was full of intense and touching moments

The scene of RK watching Madhu cry was soulful ...he so wanted to comfort her but,

stops...instead hands a tissue and shares his story of his father which he would never do with anyone... he willfully consciously lets Madhu into his inner sanctum wherein only him and his father existed until now...I can't say if he is already in Love or not but,the Rishab in him has been registering all those nice things about her since the beginning...like how she could stand up for a stranger,how she could even sacrifice herself for her family,her naivity in fighting with someone so powerful,her trust and faith in the goodness of others,her compassionate heart...the Rishab in him has been connecting with her...he finds solace in her compassionate heart...Its Rishab who didn't let Madhu leave and go away from him in the ICU in his unconscious state...He remembers what transpired the previous night and is awestuck at her capacity to show compassion and try to ease his pain,feel his pain and not take adv of his vulnerability...

RK saying he need to say Thank you to her but,wouldn't say and this is all she gets was so RKish,the egoist RK and Madhu staying her ground and helping him back to bed even after his resistance was so like Madhu,stubborn in taking care of her loved ones...they both are behaving like old married couple who know their partner inside and out where there would be no space for any ego or thank you and sorry...where it doesn't matter who has an upper hand...only thing that matters is to make sure the other is not in pain and in peace...

I now think that RK could let Shamsher off for his murder atttempt as a pay off

for Madhu saving his life...or because he doesn't want to see Madhu in pain,knows how much Mallik means to her or RK might even understand what drove shamsher into doing it...but,

would Madhu be able to forgive Mallik...?? his not one but at least two brutal attempts on someone who was vulnerable and not in a position to defend himself...

I also liked the scene where Madhu says we both have same blood in our veins and RK is like

is it necessary to mention it...She was pulling RK's leg and the poor boy was fuming...😆

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Shridevi Gaddam

@0-SD-0

Rocker

+ 2

Posted: 12 years ago

#17

Preet,

I knew that you would be like this and that many others are going for repeats ...coz me too will be doing the same.

I am so happy that RK is not the dark-hero and all ...seriously I don't even want anyone called in real life as dark and all ..

He is just a troubled person and his anger took a longer time to heal.

I took three years for my anger to go away. Do you know that when we have that kind of anger in us, we won't let anyone even touch us...I used to be like that. My sister felt my anger most...as we used to share the bed...she saw me jerking her away at the slightest touch or me becoming cold unlike before...😆 I really don't know why I am watching the show...Oh! I remember ...I was watching for the Bevdaa (drunkard) RK, then he became smilerky RK...and now he is the sulky RK 😆

My note in the night 😉 Wait up for me. Okay?

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Sima14

@Sima14

Navigator

Posted: 12 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

But Peach, I won't mind a little bit of handling complication when the man happens to be a hotty and he lets us be us...he is complicated only when someone touches him...by an by it will be okay... 😆

Sonu

Tum theek ho???/😆😆