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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Chir-Cute

Thoughts on episode 481

Let me just start with this first, once again loud and clear:

This is not my HM.

Something is seriously wrong somewhere!

Someone, please explain to me why the missing bhaes is Karishma's fault? Just because she was specially appointed by her senior to look after it? Karishma being the SI of the station also appointed Cheetah, a constable and her junior, to do the same. So if the bhaes went missing, why is Haseena venting on Karishma and not Cheetah? As per Haseena, "Karishma Singh, humne ek zimmedaari di thi aapko, woh bhi aap thik se nahi nibha payi?". There are so many things that are wrong with this statement! Since when did Haseena start questioning Karishma's capabilities? If she thinks that this missing bhaes is Karishma's fault then it is equally her fault too. As an SHO, she knew safekeeping this bhaes was important because of its direct connection to the minister so why wasn't she on her toes as well. Missing bhaes is not just Karishma or Cheetah's fault but Haseena is equally responsible if not more. I was completely in agreement with Karishma's response to Haseena's allegation of her. It was a bhaes and not a kohinoor so she appointed a constable to keep an eye on it and Cheetah not doing his duty is not really her fault. And by chance if it is, then with that logic, Karishma not doing that duty is Haseena's fault, right?


Karishma's questioning Haseena was also pretty much valid. Abey kaun si ma itni raat ko apni beti ko dudh laane ko bhejti hai phir chahe uski beti martial arts mein black belt ho ya cop? What the heck is wrong with Ammi? Moreover, Haseena came, saw Cheetah sleeping, yet didn't react; she just took the milk and left after instructing Billu. Wasn't Billu a qaidi so why is it his responsibility to look after the bhaes? Why is he being given instructions ki kaam thik se karna? Had Haseena given a piece of mind to Cheetah, there and then, then maybe the situation would have been different and I would say Haseena did contribute to the safekeeping of the bhaes. But then again, I can understand and give her the benefit of the doubt that she is really close to giving up on Cheetah altogether. These dialogues and reasonings were utter rubbish. The writers of the show need some new dialogue writers, honestly. Because nowadays, if the dialogues are not repetitive then it's garbage like this.

Looking at this scene, for some reason, it feels like Haseena is intentionally trying to instigate Karishma to have a full-blown argument with her by testing her patience. The only logical explanation I can think of for this is that she knows the emotional battle that Karishma is going through in regard to the whole mission/Urmila fiasco and she wants her to let it all out so that she doesn't turn bitter again. Is this a ploy of Haseena to try and salvage the old Karishma Singh, along with their friendship?


Billu was in place of our masoomiyat Santu asking Pushpa ji what mufeed meant. The scene made me miss MPT's baby and her masoom expressions when it comes to Urdu. Although Billu was once again proved to be the most sensible again pointing Karishma and Haseena in a sensible direction of the theft. Now that Haseena is back, Pushpa ji is back into degrading Karishma in front of all. I never liked this aspect of Pushpa ji. Family or no family, in the station Karishma is her senior and she needs to learn to respect that and leave all the differences outside the door when she enters the station. Karishma deserves the same respect from her as a senior as Haseena does.


Cheetah further proved himself to be a useless officer during the scene when he found the milk can lid without seeing it properly and he just ended up further strengthening Karishma's suspicion of Haseena. End result: Karishma got further humiliated. Haseena's smile though, at that point.😆

She understands Karishma's impulsiveness so well and it was a very senior like thing to do by not stretching the matter and just letting them scot in the right direction. As a senior in my office myself, that expression of Haseena's was very relatable. Such situations are pretty common. This was the only place I found a glimpse of the Haseena I love and adore.


All in all, the episode has a very realistic moral, a person could have the highest levels of qualifications but that does not mean the person is a learned one or an intellectual. Pushpa, Billu ji and Cheetah just proved this point along with the society people of Raunak ji.

Haseena said, "Uparwale ne sirf aur sirf insaan banaye hai. Badnaseebi, khushnaseebi, yeh un laalchi, paakhandi logo ne banaye hai jo logo ke isi darr ka fayeda uthaate hai, apni jebe bharne ke liye. Aisa kuch nahi hota."


Superstition and blind faith in things are indeed a curse to humanity. these two are such strong barriers that it doesn't leave even the tiniest crack to let commonsense slip in. It is very important to reevaluate time and again, things that we believe in or claim to be true.



Reminded me of some of my all-time favourite movies, like PK, and Oh My God and a favourite show; Satyamev jayate.


(not proofread)

Is it only me who felt that this post has summed up everything said by me, Rinki, Sainath and Krishna since last night 🤔

I've nothing to add or disagree except that it's high time Haseena and Karishma need to be away from each other. It will be much better than another JPT track. Might be both of them can get a transfer order because one of them being in MPT will be unfair to another. New place and new team will help them find themselves again.

If someone finds them as a friends then in that case two friends don't remain together always. They will be in touch, have late night phone calls and everything else that friends do. I don't understand why did Karishma reject the offer of being SHO of JPT. She always wanted to be a SHO and when she finally got the opportunity, she has let it go so easily. And her great brother and senior didn't bother guiding her there.

And MPT can get a new SHO and SI. And in their duty, it's common to get transferred every 2-3 years. They aren't going to be stuck to each forever.

And a new leaders for MPT will force some changes in Cheetoshpa as well.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: LogicLover

Is it only me who felt that this post has summed up everything said by me, Rinki, Sainath and Krishna since last night 🤔

I've nothing to add or disagree except that it's high time Haseena and Karishma need to be away from each other. It will be much better than another JPT track. Might be both of them can get a transfer order because one of them being in MPT will be unfair to another. New place and new team will help them find themselves again.

If someone finds them as a friends then in that case two friends don't remain together always. They will be in touch, have late night phone calls and everything else that friends do. I don't understand why did Karishma reject the offer of being SHO of JPT. She always wanted to be a SHO and when she finally got the opportunity, she has let it go so easily. And her great brother and senior didn't bother guiding her there.

And MPT can get a new SHO and SI. And in their duty, it's common to get transferred every 2-3 years. They aren't going to be stuck to each forever.

And a new leaders for MPT will force some changes in Cheetoshpa as well.

haha... apologies, if it was a repetition of things, said earlier. I haven't really had time to read everything so I just put everything that was revolving in my head after seeing the episode. 😆

True, KarEena needs a break from each other. Unfortunately, they seem to be in a very toxic relationship so neither can they stay together nor they can leave each other. So all that is left is for them to just keep trying.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Chir-Cute

haha... apologies, if it was a repetition of things, said earlier. I haven't really had time to read everything so I just put everything that was revolving in my head after seeing the episode. 😆

True, KarEena needs a break from each other. Unfortunately, they seem to be in a very toxic relationship so neither can they stay together nor they can leave each other. So all that is left is for them to just keep trying.

@Bold: No Di, it was an appreciation. You beautifully summed up everything that was said in one post 😊

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Posted: 3 years ago

In all this mess they forget about the monkey they gave to urmila.

I think it's hm's duty to return their money after all they all gave a huge amount to her 🤔

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Posted: 3 years ago

at this point both needs to be away from each other or some higher superior is need for much more time who will show them their faults and make sure they correct their faults permanently and not on temporary basis.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: pari454

In all this mess they forget about the monkey they gave to urmila. I think it's hm's duty to return their money after all they all gave a huge amount to her smiley24


monkey 😆 but yes she needs to. I lowkey expected there to be a scene where she does. that one is on me for expecting so much. XD


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Posted: 3 years ago

at some point i have always found that KS reprimands her juniors from time to time .unlike like HM.Earlier ks use to literally dhamkaao sometime cheetah for his masumiyat raag and cheetah used to focus on case rather than his alap

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Chir-Cute

Thoughts on episode 481

Let me just start with this first, once again loud and clear:

This is not my HM.

Something is seriously wrong somewhere!

Someone, please explain to me why the missing bhaes is Karishma's fault? Just because she was specially appointed by her senior to look after it? Karishma being the SI of the station also appointed Cheetah, a constable and her junior, to do the same. So if the bhaes went missing, why is Haseena venting on Karishma and not Cheetah? As per Haseena, "Karishma Singh, humne ek zimmedaari di thi aapko, woh bhi aap thik se nahi nibha payi?". There are so many things that are wrong with this statement! Since when did Haseena start questioning Karishma's capabilities? If she thinks that this missing bhaes is Karishma's fault then it is equally her fault too. As an SHO, she knew safekeeping this bhaes was important because of its direct connection to the minister so why wasn't she on her toes as well. Missing bhaes is not just Karishma or Cheetah's fault but Haseena is equally responsible if not more. I was completely in agreement with Karishma's response to Haseena's allegation of her. It was a bhaes and not a kohinoor so she appointed a constable to keep an eye on it and Cheetah not doing his duty is not really her fault. And by chance if it is, then with that logic, Karishma not doing that duty is Haseena's fault, right?


Karishma's questioning Haseena was also pretty much valid. Abey kaun si ma itni raat ko apni beti ko dudh laane ko bhejti hai phir chahe uski beti martial arts mein black belt ho ya cop? What the heck is wrong with Ammi? Moreover, Haseena came, saw Cheetah sleeping, yet didn't react; she just took the milk and left after instructing Billu. Wasn't Billu a qaidi so why is it his responsibility to look after the bhaes? Why is he being given instructions ki kaam thik se karna? Had Haseena given a piece of mind to Cheetah, there and then, then maybe the situation would have been different and I would say Haseena did contribute to the safekeeping of the bhaes. But then again, I can understand and give her the benefit of the doubt that she is really close to giving up on Cheetah altogether. These dialogues and reasonings were utter rubbish. The writers of the show need some new dialogue writers, honestly. Because nowadays, if the dialogues are not repetitive then it's garbage like this.

Looking at this scene, for some reason, it feels like Haseena is intentionally trying to instigate Karishma to have a full-blown argument with her by testing her patience. The only logical explanation I can think of for this is that she knows the emotional battle that Karishma is going through in regard to the whole mission/Urmila fiasco and she wants her to let it all out so that she doesn't turn bitter again. Is this a ploy of Haseena to try and salvage the old Karishma Singh, along with their friendship?


if this is one of her elaborate plans to get Karishma to explode... it's dumb. since when has pushing Karishma to confront things she isn't ready for been beneficial for anyone? wouldn't Karishma be more hurt that haseena has yet again put up an act to achieve an ulterior motive? then she can truly kiss her friendship goodbye. if she is so impatient, then just initiate the conversation and talk it out.


but yes i quite like this explanation for haseena's recent confusing behaviour.


Billu was in place of our masoomiyat Santu asking Pushpa ji what mufeed meant. The scene made me miss MPT's baby and her masoom expressions when it comes to Urdu.


this was lowkey trgigering for me. really show the writer's block the writers are going through.


Although Billu was once again proved to be the most sensible again pointing Karishma and Haseena in a sensible direction of the theft. Now that Haseena is back, Pushpa ji is back into degrading Karishma in front of all. I never liked this aspect of Pushpa ji. Family or no family, in the station Karishma is her senior and she needs to learn to respect that and leave all the differences outside the door when she enters the station. Karishma deserves the same respect from her as a senior as Haseena does.


Pushpa Ji is in either denial or blindsided by her perfect image of haseena. neither of which are favourable.


Cheetah further proved himself to be a useless officer during the scene when he found the milk can lid without seeing it properly and he just ended up further strengthening Karishma's suspicion of Haseena. End result: Karishma got further humiliated. Haseena's smile though, at that point.😆

She understands Karishma's impulsiveness so well and it was a very senior like thing to do by not stretching the matter and just letting them scot in the right direction. As a senior in my office myself, that expression of Haseena's was very relatable. Such situations are pretty common. This was the only place I found a glimpse of the Haseena I love and adore.


All in all, the episode has a very realistic moral, a person could have the highest levels of qualifications but that does not mean the person is a learned one or an intellectual. Pushpa, Billu ji and Cheetah just proved this point along with the society people of Raunak ji.

Haseena said, "Uparwale ne sirf aur sirf insaan banaye hai. Badnaseebi, khushnaseebi, yeh un laalchi, paakhandi logo ne banaye hai jo logo ke isi darr ka fayeda uthaate hai, apni jebe bharne ke liye. Aisa kuch nahi hota."


Superstition and blind faith in things are indeed a curse to humanity. these two are such strong barriers that it doesn't leave even the tiniest crack to let commonsense slip in. It is very important to reevaluate time and again, things that we believe in or claim to be true.



Reminded me of some of my all-time favourite movies, like PK, and Oh My God and a favourite show; Satyamev jayate.


(not proofread)


replies in bold. but this perfectly sums up everything we've been saying and i agree with each and every word of it!!

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: rinki_99

Completely agreed, we read the scenes differently smiley36 I still feel Haseena acted mature (don't know why). According to me she pointed out Karishma's negligence by saying "Agar aapne thik se padh hota".

hehehe it could be my inherent bias XD.

It could be my biasness as well. Or might be the scene was meant to be interpreted differently by everyone. I strongly believe if everyone of us share same opinion, there would nothing left to discuss on this forum. I enjoy conversing with people who share different opinions. It spans your vision.

But yes I completely agree Karishma was not at fault. She was completely irritated by Hassena taking due advantage of her authority so it was natural of her to think that Haseena did it deliberately. And Hassena being there at mid-night just before everything happened had a strong base for her suspicions. Her blame was not baseless. And I already mentioned about how wrong Haseena was to demand answers from Karishma so I will not waste my energy here smiley37

agreed

Coming to Cheetah, she cannot just ignore his carelessness just because she is done with him. No, it doesn't work like that. She is the leader of MPT and it's her duty to maintain discipline over there. She has to take some actions on this. And if she decided to neglect it, I'm sorry to say she failed as a SHO. I was completely shocked to see her not not paying much attention to him. She was a disappointment there for me. I don't know why but Cheetah's sleeping I'm duty did not piss me but Haseena's negligent did.

when i said to understand, I meant that she didn't want to deal with him in that instance. that doesn't make it, which I can completely agree with. it was disappointing to see that happen because every single time she caught him sleeping on duty, she had reprimanded him -she was doing her job. as an SHO she hasn't ever impressed me but that's a whole other topic. in the incident, I agree, she failed as an SHO. then she wonders why the deputy superintendent of police complains about a lack of discipline in the precinct smiley44.

Again we differ bit here 🤣 Can we have different thread on this topic. But to summarize, I always looked upto Haseena as an inspiring leader and SHO. I don't deny she has been wrong lot of times as a SHO but I personally believe, we all can never be perfect professionally because there will always be someone who will be better than you. But she has few traits that makes me adore her a SHO. Something that gets on my nerves of her being SHO is her leniency towards MPT and her ego clash with Karishma.

But yesterday for me she failed when she ignored Cheetah. Zero points there.

BTW, Haseena looked gorgeous in that scene. Red top and open hairs with perfect amount of make up smiley36

true.



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Posted: 3 years ago

I just don't understand why does Pushpa Ji have to intervene between their fights. Interference of third person always increases the mess. They two are adults and mature enough to handle their issues. And if they need guidance, let a senior authority intervene. On professional grounds, this is not right to interfere between your seniors.

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