Non violence ka naya mantra - Page 4

see i think matters r getting out of hand here. all the characters r at fault and not at fault too at the same time. but the basic fact is we r all humans. not a cadet or a mentor or anyone else. raj's despair, abhi's insecurities, naina's frustration. huda's jealousy will be seen in real life too. human nature varies from a range of emotions from happines to anger to sorrow etc etc.
we all have to face it during some pt of life or the other. abhi's character has a lot of emotions hidden in him which he did not bring out in his past yrs. now the time has come. he is abt to face a few facts abt himself, abt his life. all the anger that sorrow within him is coming out. he is on the path of self-realisation like one of the member's mentioned. i don't think they will turn him into a full time villain.
like he said to naina all humans make emotional mistakes. naina understood where she went wrong and now it's abhi's turn.
why even raj too became insecure during major bhargav's time. he tried to protect naina's character did not stand up for the truth against bhargav and underwent punishment for no reason at all. he was rude to naina and repented and felt guilty abt it later. he hid a very big fact from naina for a long long time and nearly lost naina and her trust.
even huda, alekh, pooja, ali, yudi have gone wrong.
so finally age has got nothing to do with it. look at the politicians of today. they make huge fights in the parliament and their actions will put the whole nation to shame.
and even the members here r getting emotional and attacking each other for fictional characters. like i said it's all a part of human nature. 😃
at the end of the day the credit goes to gaurav himself for such a fine performance. he has certainly managed to influence us mentally and invoke such mixed reactions. 😃

no offence to anyone here.[: D]
so rest in peace everybody and enjoy the forthcoming epis.

ok ok ok!! m here 😆 ...debate n i'm away!! neway, nice 2 get me all rushed up after a day of cramming history 😛 ..which incidently helps me here,since we hav an entire 1 page question on non-violence n satyagraha.. 😆

well, since satyagaraha isnt related here, 😛 cuming 2 non-violence...heres wat a person believeing in true non-violence says.."he is non-violent under every circumstance,whether good or bad..its not an easy path to choose, but once taken, it should be followed with utmost diligence and sincerity...turning back on this word of non-violence is the work of a person less brave than one imagines him to be.. ok, so dat bit was straight out of my answer...learnt well na?!! 😉 😛 😆

now, i agree wid Souma Di, why is everyone here raising Hudas issue ...d fact is, Huda is YOUNGER den Abhi..hes a student, Abhi a teacher..hes a CADET IN TRAINING and Abhi is a TRAINED soldier...and yes, no matter wat, maturity has a LOT to do with ones age..you cant expect a youngster to think as maturely as someone older...if today, someone insults my frnd, I can go and slap that person (and make no mistake, i've done this.. 😛 ) but if the same person insults my elder sisters frnd (my cuzin lets say, whos in college) will she do the same..will she just slap them..maybe yell,scream,argue or unsult back..but her reaction wont be as drastic as mine...see the difference...if there was cadet in Abhis place, agreed, hes still young and its d way every youngster reacts...this is WHY we're called YOUTH all fire and anger unknown.. 😉

and now,coming to the fact about cadets being mean to Abhi..insulting him (which i dont think dey did..i mean,INSULT is 2 big a word.. 😛 ) tell me..if dere is sumone new in our life...will we accept dem immediately n get all buddy-buddy?? NO!! fact is, it takes TIME!!

There was one incident which happened wid our class last year...wen our class came from class 8 2 class 9, our classteacher was a completely new 2 us...and our previous classteacher was the BEST!! we all adored her and wen we heard she wont take us in ninth, we were really upset..we did our best 2 make dis new teachers life a hell..jus so she'd go..frm singing himesh songs in her class, 😆 😆 to passing comments 😛 😆 ..GOD!! trust me...we let her no we wanted our old teacher back...n for a new young teacher, nuthing can be more discouraging....but neither did she leave,nor did she ever complain...wen oder teachers complained against our class, she stood by us...she saved us punishments innumerable times...n by d end of d year, we culd jus feel terribly guilty bout wat we did 😭 ..jus before d vacations we gave her a thnk u card n dis is wat she sed.."i never thot you'd cum 2 accept me but now i jus luv all of u.." 😳

now basically why i told dis lambi story 😛 is jus 2 make d point..students arent gods..n neither r dey demons..dey want a teacher dey can luk upto..trust...sum1 who can be deir mentor...did dey accept Raj in d beginning?? no...d same wid Abhi..if Abhi jus remains himself n tries 2 help d cadets n be a true teacher, den he'll get d cadets acceptance n luv n respect...it wont be d same dey hav for Raj, it'll be a new feeling only for Abhi..he cant take sum1s place..he has to make his own place...and dis is where Abhi goes wrong...

I rest my case.. 😊

PS:Ranju...LUV ur siggy 😃 😳 ..dose words are jus PERFECT 4 d pictures!!! 😳 😳

Originally posted by: scorpiongal

well,firstly..want 2 clear one point here...how can cadets mentalty be called "mean" ?? no, i jus want 2 no...dey're young..n m young...so, well..as a youngster, i can, and everyne around my age can relate 2 how dey're reacting towards Abhi...secondly..Abhi didnt help Alekh..he stood n gt frustrated..dis jus made alekh think Abhi cant do nething..y blame him..its a natural reaction..n den,after everything happens,wen abhi went to console Alekh, its abvious Alekh thinks hes trying 2 act like Raj...see...its a natural reaction from a student!! and ya, i can say one thing..if a teacher gets into ne matter of the student,even with the intention 2 help them..and its unwanted by the students..its still interference to us..see..we hav certain thots in our head..a more mature person wuld hav taken Abhis help and thanked him..but students already resented abhi after d alekh incident...if he cums n offers help wen dey dont want it, it jus makes us more rebellious..n it agn gives d impression hes trying 2 be Raj..see..i no u must be thinking youngsters r crazy n mindless n heartless n cruel, but dis is jus an honest verdict frm sum1 who can relate wid wat d cadets r doing..coz i've been thru dis kinda situation..u can chk my previous post 2 see wat i mean..its how we are...as a teacher, Raj n Abhi n d oders r trying 2 help d cadets grow..abhi himself is a soldier, a grown man, a trained person..his action here was nt expected from sum1 of his age..while d cadets was..m nt saying its rite..m saying its normal..n its cool wid us...

btw candyfloss...gr88 points!!!!!! 👏 👏 👏 luved dem thoroughly!!! 😃

scorpiongal...i am inflicting on you is it???/

Kindly go through your posts....you call me irrational then you say i am directly inflicting on you........

Everything negative in the world can be defended whether we use the phase 'mental turmoil' or something else......but what is wrong remains wrong......

Ok now answer this.........

Sure you heard abt Pravin Mahajan shooting Promod Mahajan right.....from what i have heard it was insecurity and jealously.....and maybe even he underwent a mental turmoil...so is his shooting justified...........????

Recently i read that actress Shweta Tiwari was misbehaved with by her husband.....who was insecure of her success....so even he might have undergone some mental turmoil na...so even he is justified????

I know that Abhi just pushed into Raj...which is nothing compared to the two incidents that i have cited.....but if you look closely the situation reamins 'insecurity'......

I am sure these ppl were not right....and if you think calmly ...you will get my point......covering up one's mistakes due to insecurity by using mental turmoil...is so not done............

This is my final post here.....

Shvetal di had rightly accessed us....we are kids...maybe thats why we realte more to the cadets ....and can understand them.....

There are many ppl here who have asked me to put myself in Abhi's sheos....i am sorry but i dont think my friend's success would ever make me undergo some 'mental turmoil'....if she is my friend....then her success should be celebrated by me too....

In classes when i was in school...teachers would have favs too...and if my frnd was a teachers fav i would not have hurt her.....

I know many pll reading this will think that this is bookish...but maybe becoz of our age..but we would stick to our principals

souma..it's my last post on this topic too..

firstly..i called u irrational..so u did but i must clear my point behind 'infliction'. for me ..a healthy discussion is conditional to rationality, logic & justification.....not on hillariousness, seriousness & ridicule. (at least for me..it is so..)

u indeed hv a very strong art of discussions (perhaps better tham me)..but when it comes to putting them..i think u need to be bit more considerate. (it's my view)..

thirdly..i said in my last post that u ask me on those points which i never defended. u again doing same.

i hv not defended on this part that what abhi did was right. i never said that his insecurities are justified...(which is what u r asking me in ur above post)... i only said that what he did was not abnormal (and he alone was not responsible for his emotional turmoils).& there are situations in life when ppl react in the way they sh'd not or the way they are not expected...but that does not mean that they are emotionally immature. i didn't cover up for his mistakes either.

i m not convinced with ur's & candy's point of justifying cadets beacuse they are immature, raw & they don't hv a good understanding of things. if u all really think that..then tell me..

why the whole forum was mad over naina ..whan she shot rajveer.? (i was the among who defended her on part of her emotional turmoil)..

why everybody called that she is selfish when she showed ingratitude towards rajveer? (i was on raj's side at that time...so now when cadets show same to abhi..i m on abhi's side)...


at last...we all hv a difference of opinions ...& that's one of the most common phenomemon of life . i hv no personal bias against u or anybody else. if anybody is hurt..i m sorry.

Everybody make mistake in their life.The cadets made a mistake many a times&recently instead of thanking Abhi they went near Raj as soon as he come.Raj should have asked the cadets to thank him by approaching him.Raj was also soft when Huda&others bunked his classes.
What Abhi did was not right as he kicked or hurt Pooja for the game but they ignored him&compared to Raj so he tried to win at the cost of anything.This is not expected from a teacher but he is a humanbeing also.

Oh God after a long time i m feeling as if old golden days of lrl forum r back where we used to discuss the things in a same way ...Lagay Raho Munna bhehnoo 👏

Djs are not sure how to make Abhimanyu a hit.
They thought that Gaurav Chopra as Abhi will win all hearts and the LRL will gradually focus on him making Raj's exit easy and feasible.
But that did not happen.
Very few people accepted Abhi as the new protagonist of the show. In fact, except some ardent fans of Gaurav Chopra ,noone thought much of Abhimanyu. SO now DJs have changed their plan and want to make Abhi the negative character. So there is a u-turn in Abhi's character and thoughts. Because of this the character look very unpredictable, weak and inconsistent.
I also think Gaurav Chopra is more suited in the negative role than in the "Banjara" role he was trying to play in the beginning.