Non violence ka naya mantra - Page 2

I think abhi was not hurting jaanboojh ke.has anybody here ever played football?shoulder push to allowed hota hai. Only pushing away with hand is foul.vaise bhi unki friendship is not affacted.i agree with scorpiangal

To be honest, it's not Rajveer or Abhi fault, it's cadets fault....
They keeps changing their behaivours....
I think both Rajveer and Abhi should work together, and I even think that Abhi did a bad thing by behaiving like this with the cadets, I understand that he feels upset that they give didn't even thanks him at that time when he shoot the ball, and they were saved from Nair.... B
ut Abhi is mature, he should not behaive like this with his best friend, he is not a child to do like this....
I apperciate Rajveer coz he never behaived bad with Abhi and not even Naveen earlier....
I hope INSHALLAH that Abhi realised his mistake, and be much clear and honest with Rajveer....

i agree wid all of u but only partly. abhi has done wrong and his conscience has already started eating him. raj nowadays no longer spends time wid his own friend and even ignores him in the presence of cadets. his mind is full of red box and his body wid the cadets.
but it is the cadets who have changed. they have learnt a lot from raj but implemented little of it. they r still behaving childishly. all the time running to raj and doing great discussions wid him. absolutely no reason at all. the whole track is illogical. first the strong bonding betn naina and raj broken. naina changing sides. the biggest surprise is abhi and raj's friendship. that means was their relnship so weak that it took so many years and bunch of idiotic cadets to break it. they could have shown personal and professional rivalry betn raj and abhi. all that talk given by abhi abt trust and healthy competition becomes meaningless. and all of a sudden abhi changing to an insecure guy.
the cadets behaviour towards abhi is totally bad. i expected naina to speak out for abhi but she too is behaving stupidly.

Please stop blmaing the cadets.......

I am in college now...and school life has not been long lost....when i was in school i also also favourites.....maybe if another new teacher had come to my place and would force herself upon me all the time...i would hate it as well...why is Abhi helping the cadets when they have not asked for it...Pooja said she was ok with going hungry and Huda said that he does not want any interfernce in his life......and i completely relate to them....ask him to leave them alone.....

Secondly i feel it is highly ridiculous that ppl are blaming Raj also here.....Raj spoke to the cadets yes...but he kept looking at Abhi all the time and finally went up and congratulated him na......

I dont think Raj thought that Abhi would behave like a kid and take Huda's comments seriously....If you really have watched season 1 then you will knoe that half of Huda's statements have no head or tail........

In the games room...he dint notice Abhi go away...they were discussing Rohit's family remember...and that i guess is a tad more imp then cry-baby's insecurity

Coming to the Naina Abhi thing...how the hell is Raj suposed to know that Abhi helped Naina.....If you really have watched season 1 ...you will know that Naina suffers a lot from 'mood-swings'.....and it is not maturity that can help Raj understand that Abhi cleared Naina's head...( abhi is a mind reader...not Raj).and why should he think Abhi helped her anyway...when Abhi himself almost killed Raj during the fight...he obviously thought that Abhi is against him too.......

No i am sorry but the defence is really lame in the topic here😆

Its Abhi who has no character what so ever....he fights with Raj....tells Naina that they will get him hanged...and them convinces her that he was not wrong.....when we cannot understand him....whats the fault of Raj here........

You tell me abt Raj ignoring Abhi which led to this type of insecurity then raed this..

> We know that Raj loves Naina but Naina comes to his room and saya that she wants to spk to "Abhimanyu"....Raj dint get mad at Abhi for that did he??? and it was not Abhi's fault either...the same here

> When Naina was blowing Raj for losing the box...Abhi stood there saying nothing....he knew the box could not be touched then why did he not explain it to Naina???
Dont you think Raj should have been driven mad

And there are many other places where Raj got hurt and Abhi did absolutely nothing abt it....so what did Raj do ...went and cried in his bedroom and then adopted the philosophy that" i am hurt and so the whole world even innocent peopke should suffer"......ridiculous.....

The cadets need time......Huda has done worse things than this to Raj in the last season...but Raj understood his frustration and intentionally lost a boxing match to Huda...so that his ego would be satisfied.....an Abhimanyu is doing the opposite....he thinks if he wins then the cadets will respect him...no way...Raj lost the match and it was then that the respect for him increased.....obviously the cadets are only going to hate him more...and i completely relate to them....


scorpiongal there is something called emotional maturity...there is....you will not break down the same way as a 10 year old na.....these cadets are raw...have ego and need to be understood

Teh cadets supported Bhargav over Raj....and i dont remeber Raj playing foul and crying to the world that he is a 'loser'

And he hurt Raj intentionally....i have cleared that point in my post in the previous page.......

aaaaaa..errrr...hmmmmm..kya bolooon.... 😆 😆...bhai frankly speaking mujhe toe LRL mein koi interest nahin aajkal...kitna ganda lagta hai..wen I c Army soldiers so emotional nd blah blah n blah...show da "boss" thing nd shut LRL..dats it..deres no scope at all..its really boring nowadays...

As far as Abhi is concerned I never liked him at all...

okay well firstly ...... gaurav really deserves 👏 for continuing with this character despite the fact that he clearly isn't a "hero" in this ..... now this is not to say that he can't be one in the future ....... i just mean it is very obvious that his character is all about self-discovery ....... and not like raj's character which is more self-aware ......

like navin said in his voice-over ....... it is people like abhi who easily beomce confused and follow the wrong paths ........ if you think about it ........ it is sort of like huda ......... the way he got confused and fell into the wrong group ........

i think that dj's is trying to show the side of the army that we don't (and technically even chauhan saab) doesn't want to see ........ i think we want to believe that all army officers are strong and do not get jealous over these meaningless things but unfortunately that is far from the truth ........ cause if this was the case ....... we wouldn't hear about suicides among army officers ........ and we wouldn't ever see corruption amongst them ......... both of which we unfortunately do see ........

so in my opinion although chauhan saab is wrong in the way he is handling things ........ it is important to realize that there is a reason why this is happening to him ........ insecurity drives people to do stupid things ........ sometimes those things seem unfathomable to us as spectators ....... but to the person in the situation ....... in their mindset it is "right" ....... i too agree that what captain chauhan did to raj and pooja was intentional ...... but one must also realize that contact sports are filled with events like this ....... honestly watch one hockey game and what he did will look like peanuts ....... however i'm sure that whatever chauhan saab did is more hurtful as the people on the opposite team are his friend and students ............ i would take this as a representation of the fact that just like love, insecurity is also blind ...... when you're trying to prove yourself to the world you may often forget that you are hurting someone else in the process

it is also important to realize that if is often the company a person with an insecurity keeps that determines how that person will handle themselves ...... taking the soccer (football) game as an example, we know that maj nair set this up to add fuel to the fire of insecurity within captain chauhan ...... plus we already know that the speech he delivered to him before already fanned the fire

okay mera bhashan aab khatam ..... these were just my two cents ....... dil pe maat lena ..... lekin ihnke bare mein thande dimak se sochna zuroor 😛

i fulltoo agree wid u navy. that was an excellent interpretation of abhi's character. i do not know whether such things happen in army especially bet two faculties or betn faculty and cadets. the cadets behaviour - of course they r predictable - because all of them r here to prove themselves and fights r a part of it. but nowhere i have known that cadets run off from their drill to meet their favourite captain and give credit to him for what someone else did. if rajveer is more self aware he should have told the cadets to thank abhi for helping them out and not start another round of discussions wid them. there is something called professional etiquette and in army it is very important. the track makes no sense at all. i don't see the reason for sudden change in abhi's attitude. they could have introduced him as a negative person in the beginning itself or change abhi's character to negative in a much better way.
i hope as navy says that this is abhi's path to self discovery and not self destruction. i like abhi's role - it is more real to life and not larger than life like that of rajveer's(i say so abt raj as i feel so - they do show him as a know it all - there is nothing that he can't do)
and somewhere too i feel abhi loss of nandini to raj and raj's underestimation of abhi as a soldier is also a reason behind abhi's insecurity.
i can see that abhi's past is known to raj and naveen and he too himself is quite open abt himself to an extent. but raj and naveen never made it clear to abhi what they thought of him even after being close friends. that makes abhi feel inferior to them. raj was more close to naveen. and abhi was more close to raj. raj lost naveen and abhi lost raj for different reasons. a fact that they r still coping with even today.