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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Souma.N

Please stop blmaing the cadets.......

I am in college now...and school life has not been long lost....when i was in school i also also favourites.....maybe if another new teacher had come to my place and would force herself upon me all the time...i would hate it as well...why is Abhi helping the cadets when they have not asked for it...Pooja said she was ok with going hungry and Huda said that he does not want any interfernce in his life......and i completely relate to them....ask him to leave them alone.....

abhi never forced himself on the cadets. It's all cadets mean mentality. When raj helped them ..he was not asked by them to help..but still they took his help cuz there was no one else whom they can rely. When abhi entered and helped naina. Helped raj & his team to get yudi back in kma, helped alekh , made yudi understand the situation..when all these things were happening then why didn't cadets refused for his help. ...What pooja said was actually just a crap that why he tries to become raj. He was not interfering in their life but he came there as a teacher to protect his cadets from nair's punishment. If he did so…then what's wrong? If he hadn't done so….all would hv said that why abhi is not helping cadets or may be why he is not complying his duty as a teacher.? If he enters their personal life ..then it would be called interference..but if a teacher is interfering ..& that too with the intention to help them..i don't find it wrong in any way.

Do u remember..in starting days when major bhargav was always rude to naina, he failed her in almost every drill by his mean tricks……..then rajveer helped her irrespective of the fact that naina always asked him that she doesn't need his help. Then why didn't anybody ask rajveer to stop interfering in her life? because he was also performing his duty as a teacher. Then why abhi is unjustified & raj was justified?



Secondly i feel it is highly ridiculous that ppl are blaming Raj also here.....Raj spoke to the cadets yes...but he kept looking at Abhi all the time and finally went up and congratulated him na......

I m not blaming raj but..if u say that standing & listening silently to nair means that abhi is a fake friend then even raj did the same . when huda reached him and said that "aap aa gaye esliye aim lag gaya ..verna inhone to humein tension de di thi"…was such a rude thing still raj didn't bother to ask huda to stop his idiotic uttering against his friend. I m sure the rules are not different for two friends. If u questioned abhi's friendship in former situation then I can question raj's in latter one. my point is just that ppl react to situations in different ways then we expect them….but that doesn't mean that they are wrong.



I dont think Raj thought that Abhi would behave like a kid and take Huda's comments seriously....If you really have watched season 1 then you will knoe that half of Huda's statements have no head or tail........

Coming to the Naina Abhi thing...how the hell is Raj suposed to know that Abhi helped Naina.....If you really have watched season 1 ...you will know that Naina suffers a lot from 'mood-swings'.....and it is not maturity that can help Raj understand that Abhi cleared Naina's head...( abhi is a mind reader...not Raj).and why should he think Abhi helped her anyway...when Abhi himself almost killed Raj during the fight...he obviously thought that Abhi is against him too.......

Mood swings?????? Souma ..this is more than irrational to say that raj might be thinking that naina's change of attitude is a mood-swing. Mood –swing is a situation like when ur tongue crave for an icecream at one moment & the next moment u don't want to eat. But naina's attitude was not a mood- swing. She was aggressive & rude to the extent of killing him & not even regretting for that. Since the end of season 1 ..she was continuously pouring his hatred over rajveer…& now she suddenly changed overnight ..and u say that it sh'd be termed just a mood swing. Well..if it is so…then in my opinion ….naina sh'd be the first person to be expelled from the army..& sent to a mental asylum. Abhi's emotional chaos..are quite less drastic than naina's .

Secondly..abhi don't hv a very good acquaintance with hooda …but still if u expects him that he sh'd understand that huda's talk are less than penny-worth & insignificant..(which abhi did)….then even I can expect raj that he sh'd hv understood that naina's change is not magical but there is some reason..specially when he knows both naina & abhi very well.

If abhi would had taken huda's comment seriously..then he would hv left without shooting the ball. He even ignored pooja's comment..because he was not there to prove himself but to help them. He even said same to raj…that it doesn't matter that who gets the credit…what is important is that cadets will not hv to starve. Again my point is just that there are situations when ppl don't react as we expect them to…but that doesn't mean that they are wrong.

In the games room...he dint notice Abhi go away...they were discussing Rohit's family remember...and that i guess is a tad more imp then cry-baby's insecurity

Raj discussed abt rohit's family..at the very end of their discussions., .even after abhi's departure. Abhi is not a pen , pencil or a wall hanging..that raj eneterd the room ..but didn't notice . he is a 6 feet man..& more than that he is a friend..but still if raj hadn't noticed him when he passed by his side….that means there is something more important than friendships also. So..why abhi is bad if he sometimes thinks abt his insecurities instead of his duties towards a good friendship.

No i am sorry but the defence is really lame in the topic here😆

i agree u but partially. defence certanly had been bit lame but it's because of the veritable jerks..that Dj's hv created in abhi's character.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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candy...i mentioned in my very first post under this topic that what abhi did was not right. it was wrong. i m defensive to him but not for wrong reasons. 😊
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Posted: 18 years ago
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scorpion gal....you conveniently forget to defnd the point which i said that when Naina was standing there and screaming at Raj when the boz was being taken away.....Abhi just stood there.......

No one is perfect...and i repeat if expecting a lil more maturity from Abhi is such a big thing....then...i honestly dont know what to say to you.....

I can pick ecah point of ours and argue again but unfortunately i have my university examns and cannot do so immediately....

Jusr one thing...you called me irrational...yyou are nothing better....just go through some of your point ....

1> Raj is also at fault...really??? Why should he ask Huda to shut up...he did say that Abhi hit the target and half the time..Huda talks nonsense...its a prt of him...you cant take him seriously.........

2> Abhi....dint push Raj intentionally....this is ridiculous.... 😆

3> Becoz Raj is mature...he should have guessed that Abhi has made Naina understand......this comment is honestly hilarious...... 😆 ..( abhi himseldf over-reacted....and Raj is no mind reader..)

Anyway if this topic is not closed before the 20th of july then i will reply to each of the points......but anyway whether you like it or not Abhi's character is making no sense what-so-ever...at least to me......no form at all

Edited by Souma.N - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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agree wid u too scorpiongal. 😃
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Posted: 18 years ago
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candyfloss....thank you so much.....take a bow...becoz you have hit the 'bulls-eye'...

Excellent comments.... 👏


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Posted: 18 years ago
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i dont agree to u scorpionangel.... abhineeds to grow up.... u cant blame rajveer for his insecurities n immaturity... abhi is weak man who is jealous becoz of cadets ignoring him n being loyal to rajveer... abhi should not try to take revenge because of his jealousy.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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candyfloss u r right... i loved your comments
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Posted: 18 years ago
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You know whats most ridiculous here is that even foul play and lack of sportsmenship ids trying to be defended here.....

And by doing this...and saying that since Abhi is hurt ..he is justified..in over-reacting and hurting others...we are degrading sports ourself..and defending something that is wrong....remember it was a FRIENDLY match

And if Abhi is right...then whats wrong with Nair and Bhargav....

Nair hates girls...ans if Abhi is sooo hurt by comparison then Nair was framed by the cdaets for God's sake.....so even he is justified....maybe he also has been hurt by some girl sometime...so even he is justified in hurting Pooj a and Naina...and its a military academy at the an dof the day...so even his strictness and punishments are justified.......

Bhargav got Naveen the sentence becoz he was behind his promotion and looking at it the other way...there is nothing wrong in being ambitious na.....and he was against Raj becoz Raj had the details of the case...and it could backfire......and he is also right in not allowing Naina into the acdemy...beocz what if Naveen really was a traitor...tehn...so even Bhargav is right......

Even Ritu this way is positive only an...i mean she did work deligiently for her organisation...and was loyal to her group...maybe even she had problems thats why she was forced to be spy....so even she is right in a way.....

😆 ....

I know i am defending rubbish here...but this is the point sweethearts.....when you'll defend what Abhi did...you'll are doing a similar thing....whether mental turmiol or not.....an army OFFICER needs to be strong

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: tanvi_lovely

i dont agree to u scorpionangel.... abhineeds to grow up.... u cant blame rajveer for his insecurities n immaturity... abhi is weak man who is jealous becoz of cadets ignoring him n being loyal to rajveer... abhi should not try to take revenge because of his jealousy.

Exactly me too don't agree with scorpionangel and as said by tanvi, souma and candy.. still fail to understand the Prince...moreover i can only add this that i agree with u all on one side i agree that DJ's r responsible for spoiling Abhi's character every week we see different shades of his personality....see no one is perfect we r humans we can't say that we all r master of all trades similarly if he is reacting violently and if i consider him Ordinary person then it is justified .. if he is comming under Nair's trap it is human nature bec circumtances r forcing him to do that now.. but on the other side we lok otherside he is ARMY TRAINED CAPTAIN...in army the only emotions exists is love for country nothing else bec for country even ur respect is secondary...now what i feel is that he is acting too humanly ...instead of feeling insecure and comming in Nair's trap rather he should think to help Rajveer for the betterment of cadets.. i agree he did a good job by bringing naina's brain back in mind but still more has to be done....I feel that he still think himself and Rajveer r in KMA as cadets and trying to compete with rajveer thats why he is feeling insecure & thats why he is not digesting this being ignored by cadets and Rajveer .. same when he, naveen and rajveer were in KMA as cadets .... he needs to be a bit mature in realising this fact that he is Captain and in KMA he has come to help Raj naina not to fight whther its his ego or physical rather he should prove himself as a role model like Rajveer and Dr. Shalini to cadets by going side by side with them not like hitting them badly and thus satisfying his innerself complexities... Naveen is very right of not chosing him to kill naveen bec he knew that a prince r either too soft or too hard they don't have a balance equation basically Abhi is hypersensitive person who listesn to their heart rather than their mind these mentally weak type of people don't deserve to be in army i m seeing another Yudi in him .. the only difference is this that due to society's presssure and his inner weakness Yudi tried to committ sucide whereas Abhi instead chosed the path of Violence towards others to satisfy his insecurities which is simply not acceptable.. I guess Captain Rajveer should handle Abhi in a same way as he handled his cadets especially YUDI i m sure Abhi will too soon turn out to be a good captain and then there will live happy in KMA 😆

Edited by kiran_sherry - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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i m so sorry to say candy that not even a single point of u is able to convince me. u hv argued good but no point of ur's took me to a concrete end.

all ur points ultimately lead to prove that cadets are poor guys. they sh'd be set free to say or do whatever they want. neither they sh'd be stopped nor blamed.

and souma...seems like u are not criticizing abhi & my points towards abhi ...but now u hv directly started inflicting upon me. u said many things ..which i never defended. & the use of ur fav. word ridiculous is more coming to me then to my arguements. may be u hvn't read my posts well or may be u want me to defend on those points to which u can come strongly over me.

u r not feeling connected to abhi...so m i...but that doesn't serve as a basis of criticism or praise.

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