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Posted: 13 years ago
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Rosie brilliant post.. your write up alongside others is so extensive and individualistic, that I too endeavour to share my ideas...
So may I then shuttle back and forth between these two woman who feature in Dutta's.
Supriya ,to me has to be a pawn manipulated to perform accordingly to the wishes of Kala and a certain unseen ,unheard ,but felt presence Bade Haste.Although she is a becoming woman both in carriage and appearance.She lacks the strength of character whereby she can say defy Kala's instructions. So she is a marrionette dancing to the whims of others.
Seema comparitively appears more clear in her vision of what she wants,and unlike Supriya follows her own dictates and initiatives.
Supriya is a woman selected for Dutta for matrimonial purposes and as such, has the backing of both families to be united in marriage. People take decisions for her,Kala, her family ,and Dutta's family.
Seema on the other hand is independant in her sense of decision making i.e firstly she reciprocates to the advances of the shy Dutta and later on rejects him for another.When she returns, she again fares alone without a family unit,but is capable enough to conclude that she desires Dutta back in her life.
Seema is a girl that Dutta selects for himself, whereas Supriya stands as a woman arranged for him to be married to.
Supriya happens to be the woman who has Naku's recommendation. For it is Nakusha who chivves her Saab into giving his consent to this proposal.
Supriya I also see as a pertinent topic of discussion bewteen the master and his servant girl.Thus it's her presence which acts further to gel the bond of friendship, support and gradual building of trust,especially in Dutta...between Dutta and Naku.
Now with regards to who out does the other.One thing is clear that they both humilate Dutta.Seema disgraces him in front of his family and friend Baji, and last of all the garage boss. However Supriya lowers his dignity when she disowns him publicly before all guests ,well whishers and family.
There remains little doubt that both women are the cause of emotional truama in Dutta's life but out of the two Supriya emerges as the more dangerous one, for she puts on a semblance before all and is actively party to the secret plot of Dutta's murder, eventually.
Seema thus despite her betrayal of Dutta,and being the cause of his entry into the world of crime , still rises up when compared to Supriya ,due to her final act of saving his life...
xxhammie. thank you for a great post Rosie...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hamlet53

Rosie brilliant post.. your write up alongside others is so extensive and individualistic, that I too endeavour to share my ideas...
So may I then shuttle back and forth between these two woman who feature in Dutta's.
Supriya ,to me has to be a pawn manipulated to perform accordingly to the wishes of Kala and a certain unseen ,unheard ,but felt presence Bade Haste.Although she is a becoming woman both in carriage and appearance.She lacks the strength of character whereby she can say defy Kala's instructions. So she is a marrionette dancing to the whims of others.
Seema comparitively appears more clear in her vision of what she wants,and unlike Supriya follows her own dictates and initiatives.
Supriya is a woman selected for Dutta for matrimonial purposes and as such, has the backing of both families to be united in marriage. People take decisions for her,Kala, her family ,and Dutta's family.
Seema on the other hand is independant in her sense of decision making i.e firstly she reciprocates to the advances of the shy Dutta and later on rejects him for another.When she returns, she again fares alone without a family unit,but is capable enough to conclude that she desires Dutta back in her life.
Seema is a girl that Dutta selects for himself, whereas Supriya stands as a woman arranged for him to be married to.
Supriya happens to be the woman who has Naku's recommendation. For it is Nakusha who chivves her Saab into giving his consent to this proposal.
Supriya I also see as a pertinent topic of discussion bewteen the master and his servant girl.Thus it's her presence which acts further to gel the bond of friendship, support and gradual building of trust,especially in Dutta...between Dutta and Naku.
Now with regards to who out does the other.One thing is clear that they both humilate Dutta.Seema disgraces him in front of his family and friend Baji, and last of all the garage boss. However Supriya lowers his dignity when she disowns him publicly before all guests ,well whishers and family.
There remains little doubt that both women are the cause of emotional truama in Dutta's life but out of the two Supriya emerges as the more dangerous one, for she puts on a semblance before all and is actively party to the secret plot of Dutta's murder, eventually.
Seema thus despite her betrayal of Dutta,and being the cause of his entry into the world of crime , still rises up when compared to Supriya ,due to her final act of saving his life...
xxhammie. thank you for a great post Rosie...



A brilliant and step by step comparison between the two K's...Keema and Kupriya.

Hammie, after reading your comment totally agree that kupriya was more dangerous of the two, Seema was more of a direct attack while Sups was peeche se waar ..and in the guise of wide eyed incompetent innocence
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i neva quite got why sups supposingly hated dutta? i mean why? he never hurted her in any way tht she hurt him badly...she changed dramatically over the course of her time in LTL...4rm sum1 tht was so timid and scared she end up being sum1 tht hated dutta n was confident while speaking 2 him and betraying him---wt a transformation it was
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Both were devil each out done another to spoil duttas life😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: stranger2rose

Seema v/s Supriya

So from where should I start? Both the ladies ( though I am sure you wouldn't like me to call them ladies)||No, don't call them ladies...androids will do just fine|| had quite a few similarities, firstly their names started with a 's' and ended on an 'a'. secondly they both came in the life of dutta as a whiff of fresh air ||Yeah, fresh air...my foot!|| and with time our hero lost his heart to them only to be broken by them later on, he trusted them, somewhere loved/liked them but they didn't feel the same about him. ||I have to admit that Seema actually fooled me with the first impression. when she was shown bringing in food for him and not making a fuss over the bangles she wanted but he couldn't pay for, I thought that meant she wasn't all about money...but then...|| Thirdly he wished to marry and settle down with both of them but I guess none of them deserved him. Fourthly if seema transformed dutta to dutta bhau by betraying him then supriya's elopement awoke the ruthless gangster in him. Fifthly and most importantly both of them had a pathetic taste, ||😆 Should we even say that they had a sense of taste? Maybe for Sups because she was in love with mawali...so yeah she had a pathetic taste...but Seema? Her taste buds were numb and/or dead. She was so hungry for money she would basically savor the dirt if it carried cash.|| went for that old garage owner and later on for that monkey chaskar ||Aww, Rose, Chasku ko bandar banadiya...I thought Suds had a claim on that title 😛|| then supriya was no less she loved that constipated ||Someone must have had my Suds on her mind while typing this 🤣|| looking man who wore tight fitting shirts'seriously leaving a handsome hunk like dutta for those idiots..amazing




I, sadly, agree with you, Rose, that Seema may be the better person compared to Sups ||pukes|| because she didn't mislead him once she found the joy of her life in O.G.O. (Old Garage Owner). When Dutta caught the lovebirds romancing on top of the hood of a car ||pukes again|| she came out with the truth. She was unnecessarily mean and absolutely wicked, yes, but at least he didn't find out after she had already ran off with O.G.O. Sups did exactly that (though not with O.G.O 😆). I know she was scared and her parents were pushy, but she had her mind made up to marry the mawali no matter what. She was just as selfish as Seema if not more because she made Dutta fall in love with her and she let Kala use her too. She didn't care how much her actions could ruin him and the effect it could have on his family. What Seema did was break up with him (for an awful reason, yes) but people separate and move on all the time. If she wasn't so harsh and greedy, I don't think Dutta could hold it against her for wanting to break up. If she didn't love him he would be better off without her anyway. Sups on the other hand, well, she truly played him and I hate that about her.




Edited by Rose_Petal - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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wonderful and detailed post rosie😃..
and i loved analysis by all.👏..
me too will pick seema over supriya. whatever seema did before she was young, poor, starry eyed immature teenager.
but supriya was a woman who acted as Beep* using her womanly charms. she was scared, in love and wanted a way out. Agreed. But then she ENJOYED manupulating, making a fool off and hurting Dutta..
i would pick Seema's greed and selfishness over Supriya's vile mechanisms, manupulations and viciousness.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi rose

you write awesome ...nice thread ...both sups & seema havoc poor duttas life ...makes them similar evilin
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ aish
OMG! Me phirst😲😆 ..seriously something is wrong somewhere but i like wrong things

I vote for seema! Thank you for, doing the same, even with a heavy heart else I would have left heartbroken...such a drama queen i tell u ...lol. Now on a serious note, it's hard to choose! You choose, either an earthquake or flood, the result is gonna same''.DISASTROUES! ...well said ...but yes, it can't be ignored that these two ladies sorry witches..correct word used .. are quite similar yet poles apart.

One of the basic differences between seema and supriya is while former was a gold digger, latter never lusted for money, throughout her existence in the show; supriya never seemed ecstatic about all the luxury that entered into her life along with dutta. and i quite admire that quality of sups ...hard to admit

One more aspect..loyalty! Though both were cheats, but yet supriya remained loyal towards that person whom she claimed to be in love with! ..oh god one more positive trait of sups ! aish why are u trying to change my mind ?

Another one seema was CUNNING to cheat a guy madly in love with her, whereas Supriya was dumb to think that she could fool a don (ye alag baat hai ki aapna don got fooled!)

Well in the above stated I kind of praised supriya, (OMG! Bring a doc, there's seriously something wrong! Wait a sec, don't bother to say, "Dr. Suds on his way"..u know u shouldnt make fun of Dr. Suds he's very good at his job😆) what made me pick Seema? The fact that seema lied to the world not to herself! When she cheated dutta, and left him heartbroken, she knew what she did was wrong and even kind of accepted it, she accepted her mistake coz dutta had a gun in his hand and she feared he might kill her..atleast that's what she thought in the flashback scene

What supriya did was, constantly pushed dutta under bad light, since he's a ganster, I didn't told him that I love someone else, arey, no matter to which ever occupation a person belongs to, he/she has full right to know about such grave information about his/her fiance and without having occupation anything to do with it!...aish bacchi darr gayi thi ..but still she should have told him when he himself asked her .. And she better not use that "I was scared" sorry ..i used that word to defend her excuse, yes you were scared that's why you tried to lust a don! ohh very bad sups ..this cannot be accepted ..i refuse to take ur side now .. Wow! You were disgusted with the blood on his hands,..seeing blood shed is not easy aish so doesn't the blood as a result of your fake suicide attempt disgusted you?...sups , ur truly a witch and aish very valid points taken up ..main kya sochti thi aur yeh kya nikali .. Naah! She belongs to that category of people who would live a century of lie, but not a moment of truth!

She encouraged a man to weave dreams of his future around her, and then mercilessly crushed them...Bad very bad, but what's worst? She justified her misdeeds in the name of LOVE! That love which makes human divine. It was love na, which naku believe that dutta is alive, it was love na which incorporated so much courage to a blind DSP that he fought and won single handedly against people mightier than him physically (at that point of time) So when did Love became so cheap that it allowed her to stoop so low for it's sake?👏👏👏

Khaak (soil) ko boot,(idle) aur boot ko devtaa karta hai Ishq

Intehaan toh ye hai Ki bande ko khuda karta hai Ishq !..kya baat hai

Waise, toh I dislike every woman who comes close to dutta..not me atleast 😆, but the above stated is the reason I HATE supriya! I know, not many will agree with me, but still I hope you'll understand😳. Do, I need to say, that it was a wonderful thread,..thanks but ur take on sups was mindblowing ...seriously u changed my perception big time .. yet another wonderful write up from your side, great job!⭐️Clap

N.B. Though, after seema re entered, I felt that was useless, chacha didn't needed seema's recommendation to help dutta, anyways he would be doing that, but still I'm thank ful to her, but I excluded that track while comparing, since I feel that would be unfair on supriya's part, who knows, if given a chance to come back, maybe change could occur to her also!..agreed even i wished the cv's showed what happened to sups later on

@ tahera

nice post rose...thanks so much tahera
seema was a young girl when dutta became besotted with her at that age she turned away from real love and chose the chamak dhamak that she assumed she would never get wih dutta.
when ur poor background some times makes even a parent decide in our culture that if an older man is asking less dowery than they marry off their daughters to oldr man because they cannot afford to give jahez...yeah she was materialistic and desired to enjoy worldly pleasures which is not wrong but atleast she shoulnt have mislead dutta
with dutta seema could only see a life of struggle probably same as her own household. a tailor with maybe 3 daughters life must have been hard. in my opinion dutta would have become as well off as the G-owner in time but seema couldn't see that as she saw only poverty and a life with dutta a hard slog so when the opportunity arose she happily took it, and left duta shattered not only choosing to go with someone better off but also the insult about looks and poverty she broke him completely. insulting dutta was certainly not required ... she wasnt even ashamed of her acts 😡
supria on the other hand had two very good valid reasons not to marry dutta
but here again money came into it too , her parents couldn't let the golden goose of dutta slip through their hands. how can a parent be so dazzeled by the money of a don i don't understand it wasn' a good rishta IMO . i mean he's aman that would be hunted by many rivals and agood policeoffice any time. i mean wouldn't u rather she marry someone who will give ur daughter a normal life.seriously her parents were blinded by power and money ok dutta ha a golden heart but still had many enemies
all the girls of this forum would agree that being in the same positins wouldnever choose some like duta as thier sil. or fall for a guy that was a known murderer. if u love someone sure u would never think of marrying anyone else, thats exactly what mishal said in one of his interviews that he wouldnt want nakku to marry a gangster thight shirt et all
but she went on about it i awrong way, she was sohorrified of the don titl that she did't take a closer look at he man giving her umpteen opportunities to get out of the up- coming marriage
i didn't understand her choosing the mangal sutre to wear for her wearing with her marriage to ravi i mean did she think dutta was going to place ravi in the mandap instead of himself?..lol..she was thinking after eloping with ravi she'll wear that mangal sutra 😕
. or she wanted dutta to buy her the manglesutra as a parting gift😕
she did 2 things wrong 1 not confess to dutta second get an innocent girl into trouble with a don. two very big mistakes
so after all thi bak bak..ohh plz its not bak bak ..its called healthy discussion all i can say supria was worst because she ruined someone else 's life to save herself.
we will forget about our dutta's good points in this scenario. as it's a don and marriage
to life wih a don is on nobody's wishlist.😡.
@ yuvika
neither of them wer better... sups didnt gt the proper closure so we dont reali knw if she eva did in life regret wt she had done...yes cv's should have shown something about her as well i remember ksh mentioning in Eternal thread tht she wishes for sum proper closure on sups...redemption of wt she did etc. bt we neva gt tht...mayb becos it wasnt reali necessary...nt evry person regrets their actions...and nt evry person is punished for evry single bad deed in this lifetime. agree with u
seema 4 me had never changed...nt 1 bit...she jus wanted dutta becos she wanted 2 gt out of this "nachnewali" avatar...and he was jus gna b the means of getting her out of there..i dnt think she eva truly loved him.. she jus wanted him... if she truly loved him she wud neva hav let sudz and kala knw wer tasha wer hiding..he had clearly told her tht he's forgiven her n wishes her al the best in life bt can neva b with her becos he loves naku 2 much 2 let her go, yet she wanted dutta 2 herself... even i feel the same , she broke his trust and all good she has done by saving him from chaskar went down the drain she was selfish til the last moment of her life...wer she came inbetween the gun shot and gave up her life.had she not given up her life for dutta , she would have remained a vamp in my eyes .. mayb tht was her way of saying she is sorry... paying for her mistakes... bt i wud stil say til the very last few mins she was selfish...i mean she onli realised her mistake wen kala showed her tru colours n sed she onli pretended so she can find dutta and kill him nt reunite him with seema, bt 1 thing 2 ? her was hw on earth did she think tht dutta wud leave naku... naku was meant 2 b her friend... she was ready 2 deceive her 2 gt dutta... if onli they hadnt shown tht "greedy" side of seema after she helped tasha flee i wud hav thrt she had genuinely changed bt i guess its human nature to never completely let go of al ur bad habits...sum always remain a part of u and come out in rare occasions jus like her selfishness came out wen she fell for kala-sudz words n told kala wer tasha wer hiding!
as for sups the less said the better.lol..as dutta sed rightly he had given her the opportunity 2 open up2 him bt she jus had 2 choose the route of betraying him... which was wrong..yup she should have told him . he had openly asked her after she fainted whether she was happy and she refused 2 express her feelings... she made him believe tht she loved him so he fell 4 her too n thn broke his heart..which was all the more annoying and disgusting .obv we knw she did this becos sum1 was telling her 2... bt she acted as tho it was ok... i mean if she reali feared dutta the gangster she wud hav neva deceived him she wud hav jus told him the truth bt i guess tht way there wouldnt hav been any story 2 it...i hav 2 mention here tht i feel dutta was a very stupid guy...i mean he reali was... sups gave him dhoka and ran away ...clearly showing tht she was sum1 tht he cudnt trust, yet he believed her letter? trusted her letter? like seriously hw stupid can 1 be?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ daya
A wonderful post Rose !..thanks a lot daya .. I can agree with everything you have stated. I would pick Seema too, although I don't like her and personally was able to withstand Sups character more..lol.but Seema's had more layers...character wise she was I guess used better.right she was a given an apportunity to correct her mistakes ..versus sups who kind of was back stabber who ran away and never came back...Seema did kind of redeem herself even if with selfish intentions..but anyway was not totally out of whack near the end...still don't like her lol but yes i too would think Seema over Sups..i know its really hard to pic one out of the two...I feel Seema was more of important character in development of Dutta versus Seema who was more so important in the relationship btwn Naku and Dutta..really..thanks for sharing ur views .
@ ani
Rose...great post. 😃
thanks ani ..glad u liked it
I agree Seema was better...the reason is that Seema was young and everyone do something very stupid, when they are young and regret it later.true , she did regret but couldnt stop herself from acting selfish again
Supriya...knew what she was doing everyone she was fooling and hurting. She even let Naku take the blame and the letter she left Dutta. 😡 yes she purposely broke his heart and the trust he had on nakku

In LTL they should have showed consequences for Supriya for her betrayal. that would have been wonderful ..thanks a lot for taking time out to read n comment

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Posted: 13 years ago
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lovely post rose

First of all both cheated dutta in fact just hide their true face and show dutta a good and pretty woman

All seema need is money which leads her to her destruction though at end she helped dutta a lot but all for her mean that may be dutta forgive her and accept her and give her the previous life and a way to get out of that bad world she is living.

On other hand supriya wants just her love Ravi and she is scared to tell dutta the truth because of his reputation but what she did wrong is that she play with dutta's feelings to have his faith on her and once again she broke his heart and made him not to trust people and love any lady and even break dutta and nakku's friendship leaving a letter behind but somewhere nakku is also responsible for not telling dutta about the truth but her reason not to tell the truth is not to broke dutta's heart once again as sups is ready to marry dutta.

so for me neither seema is quite good nor supriya as they both play their game and use dutta but both are helpfull in bringing tasha close as sups leaving dutta leads to tasha's marriage and seema's re-enter helps to realize dutta about his love for nakku.

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