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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well written hammie,👏
But ive my reservations with d glorification of d evil lady. She had no respect nor feelings for any relation, she was consumed by hatred n greed for power. She had to be in control n manipulated every situation to suit her needs. She was beyond redemption.. the day she poisoned damodar she lost d little sympathy that i felt for a small girl who was traumatised by d death of her father. She can only be compared to a psychopath who disguised her nature under d garb of suave talk n classy mannerisms. To me everythg about her was repulsive, there is no parallel to her evilness, even d mythological demon king Ravan fared better...he had immense luv for his siblings, n never forced
himself on Sita even after kidnappg her, they had some ideals. But kalawati was beyond my understandg n i always felt she was given undue importance more than dutta himself n above all d show till Mishal,s time revolved around kalawati frustrating my sensibilities.😕
And yeah, have to mention i completely agree with ivy's comments..😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very well analysed hammie. .enjoyd the detailed analysis with each character. .kala was in deed a very strong charactr and was wel performed by aashka. What made her a more dangerous enemy was that she did nt wantd to kill her enemy though later she did try but hated dutta to that extent that wanted to let him live a life worst than death. .Cruel.. that is the most apt word for her here. .A very imp. Point highlited by you that does she actualy wantd to become like dutta. .If the root cause of her haterd against dutta was her mother giving too much importance to him. It do hve an impact when a girl child is neglected over male child..such negativity could develop in her. .but on the other hand why did nt leela n roops had such complaints. .maybe kala was more sensitive or she was hiding behind this excuse to justifiy her acts against dutta. .moreover as it was shown that she devolped that haterd against dutta when she was too young. .wonder why a mother never figured this negativity in her child. .I agree with all the points raised regarding her relationship with others.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ani_98

Hamlet...very interesting post...👏 ...love reading it. 😃

oye ANI...humm.excellent writer ke bahen, pata hai I checked her out..hummh,aaj kal Harshad C. ke serial pe hai...yeah I kinda of watch this serial as I have Life Ok in my subscrition with star plus... was his fan..but Jab I Met Mishal /Dutta sab aagle ,peechle bhool gaye!.oye Ana ko mera adaab bolna..

I think Kala was bitter...over God taking her father away from her...angry and hate because Damodar was responsible for it...upset over Aayi for not being there for her and loving Dutta more than her...and in the end hating Dutta for his fathers sins.

so, being brought up fatherless in her vulnerable years seems one of the contributry factor towards her later on warped actions. It's a pity that she stands as a woman wronged by both her biological parents.. hence hating every one else just becomes secondary. Also,the fact ,that often for daughters, to associate death especially with their dad, is unthinkable, as a father is the first ,strong male role model a woman looks up to... does this mean that a woman looks up to a man, hummh for protection? is that nature's way..?

About Dutta and Kala's relationship...Kala had a very twisted relationship with Dutta...She hated him for what Damodar was responsible of...but at the same time she needed him to admire her...respect her...listen to her...she needed to be themost important person in Dutta's life... hummh,she knew he was the strong man of the household, who would protect her,so she latched on to him, regardless of all other hang overs.. as for him, she excited him, she was grounded, had a mind, and a confirmed status within the household..

Kala love to hate Dutta...that what gives her life meaning.

loved this statement of yours..of course the story coughs up enough reasons to support this claim... may I be bold as to add... and protection..

If Dutta had not been her brother and Damodars son...I believe Kala would have married Dutta...he was her ideal husband...but even then...she would try to hurt him and kill him to get his power and status.this comment really interested me. Have to confess, there were moments,when I thought of the possibility of a subtle incest, from her part ,towards Dutta, all the touchy, feely ,of his stubble face...but brushed the thought under the carpet,for it being a taboo idea. I think , I agree, that he could have been her ideal husband. But, the marriage probably would not last, as she would give him orders, which he would never take!, now if he gave in to her whims, she would be bored with his compliance! Kala needed a shot of adrenaline all the time ,to made her tick! be it hate or be it love!

She want to be superior...even if she had a powerful Don as her husband...she would do what it takes to be superior than him.

yess baaby,I do agree, the woman wants to be superior...for this is her need! Tell you Ani, she is elusive ,she may appear to be the classic female wanting protection from a male, however she also appears to be the female who wants to change the law of nature ,where she wants to be the hunter not the submissive nurturer..
ok ANI chaal is Kala ke wajaah se tera mera se baat tu hoi..😆 tu not bad .. not bad.me chuckling.. like it! .much love xxhammie.


Edited by Hamlet53 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rose_petal


oye. gulab ke patti! soorry. baaby, i am know by my "saadi te desi hai aada!", i.e big heart !and big mouth!...so delighted to have your comment..
Her relationship with herself transcends all other relationships around her. Her own want is prime and pivotal to her and she will climb over people if needs be.
Very well said. I second this statement! And she won't just climb over people but threaten to throw her own son over a balcony! I wonder if Kala ever thought herself immortal because she didn't care about leaving anyone behind who would remember her when she was gone.
I mean get real man! even when she kicks the bucket, kid or no kid, she would be immortalised by her deeds, so I guess, by hook or by crook she will continue to be a historical figure😆

Moral qualms and delicacy of relationships she hurls to the winds, when she uses Sudarshan to facilitate her want.
Oh, my God! I love how we (or at least I 😆) can interpret this sentence to really, really annoy Kala if she were real! 😉 How she would puke if someone ever mentioned her midnight rendezvous with the ullu were about something other than planning to dethrone Bhao! 🤣
haaa hooo .baat sun lardki.. what a Dirty Picture you painted! must say tune to mera remark ko, even better level de diya hai..😆
waise mera matalab ye tha , ke Kala couldn't care less even if she wrecks her sister Leela's marriage!
waise .thanks for commenting gulab ke patti.. keep in touch. ..much love xxhammie


Edited by Hamlet53 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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wow wow hamlet interesting👏 dutta and kalas relationship a very very twisted oh god she threaten every one 😡 jo bhala na samjhe jo bura na samjhe woh kalayati ko kay samjhega 😲 samjhey hamlet😍
hi afzal, thanks for reading and commenting... yess ek paheli hai Kala
still haven't got my head around her...
...much love.. hammie
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Posted: 13 years ago
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kala is never attached with any relation if she is she never lock her family it shows she just used her relations for profit

oye tammy, we meet again, baat sun kiya pictorial representation de hai tune Kala ke...she devil!
..vampire... waise is apt, khoon chooste hai logoon ka!one can see it on her lal lal lippies. yes tammy, she is happy to lose her soul to gain the world..but will if profit her?
see you baaby.. miss you , waiting ke tera exams finito hoian. much love.. xxhammie
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: aishwish


hummm..aish,welcome my mate.. great to have you comment..I looked it, yep tu theek bole chorri.. essay hai... me chuckling.. ole ole . ..aache ah ja giving you a ... a high five.. daya ,warrie se pooch, hammie, when t comes to showing affection, lowers ,eyes, looks the other way and walks off in silence... but tera saath, crooked smile and high five...😆

Hey hamlet, a very well written post! Had a great time, reading. So, first of all thank you for the write up. The way you have summed it up, it's touching the boundries of being "perfect" Waise toh you have said it all, still my two cents. me humbled...

Every relationship, that kala was endowed and the equation she shared , was secondary, to her, the prime being "bhau and tai" relation. Always maintaining the belief that she controls dutta, she didn't even herself realized when dutta became the driving force behind each n every action and reaction of hers. so do we then deduce, that she did not know her self that well after all,and that she too showed signs of being a slave to her own inherent weakness of revenge and greed.This then is the basis of greek tragedy, where a powerful, well placed persona has a personality flaw , that eventually destroys the person...

Indeed she's a strong human character,who belongs to the category of those, who believe themselves as the writer of their destiny, preferring to ignore the fact, that there is God, who holds their, hand helping them write it. Another similarity between the bro sis duo, only difference, dutta assumes himself as craver of his destiny, while kala hallucinates herself to be that for others as well, a prime reason behind "why kala is kala and dutta is dutta"..interstingly pointed out Asih, so we give her the benefit of doubt of having mental health issues..due to what she witnessed in the past. So we thus create an empathy towards her ...and where there is sympathy ,there may be justifications for her actions...

I'm sure kala and AS must have their share of "mother daughter" moments, but in the whole show through out never kala could be seen recalling them , reason? She was always busy accounting the moments where her brother was being loved by her mother, she very fondly remembers and crib that her half brother still enjoys this facility of resting his head in her mother's lap, but very easily she prefers to ignore the fact that due to all the nourishing and nurturing, now her own ego has become so big fat that it restrains her to go to her mother and accept her faliures. I agree that AS lacked the staunch essential motherly strength, quite many times, but what kala expected from her was the justification of her misdeeds, which if she didn't, she can't be blamed!!! But, yes I agree that children like kala needs special attention from parents, which AS, being the single mother raising four kids, must have failed to do, if only any such special grooming could be provided to her durig her growing years, there are chances that she would have been a quite toned individual. aish, you have written this section beautifully...very moving.. so more if onlys.. I agree the woman needed support, emotional support, more so from her mother,as it is common place concept that a mum is a daughters , best friend, a sholder to cry on.But in Kala's case this did not happen.. all her mother's attention pewtered off towards the needy 5year old Dutta.. and he was a male child.. so perhaps, she thought it overthe years to galvanize herself with enough hate ,that would empty her outof the milk of human kindness!..become a toughie!to show her mother that she was no less than a man!,she was intelligent, and strong enough to take risks like a man!. Asih, look at her marriage, she thought that if it was a companion she needed who would understand the gremlins in her closet, which her mum couldn't , she was rebuffed, for Kishore failed to calm her past emotional hurt. Even motherhood , failed to give her life meaning.. her wound festered and became a cankerous sore.. in the form of Dutta! So can we deduce that AS should have been vigilant to the signs of her daughters two pronged emotional truama.. one losing a father, and second accepting a new member in the family...an adopted boy!... yesss Kala needed what we call here Victim Support, and then AS should have followed certain strategies.. helping kala to accept this killer's boy!

Even with her sisters, who were her blood relatives, their equation with dutta proved the base of herequation with them, till they hated dutta, she loved them, the moment they didn't she hated them , not for once before locking them, she considered what, who and how they have been to her, it was only dutta.agree totally, hating him and going against every one who sided him was her driving force..on a path..of punishing her mother for what she failed to do suppoert her when she needed her mother the most...

With her hubby, too, because kishore could not meet the stature of dutta, neither could support or help her manipulating dutta, just like sudarshan, she played a disinterested wife to him,Even as a mother, she saw her child as a pawn to fulfill her desires against dutta, even a Mother couldn't over power the Tai in her! well said...but Kishore never could get to grips with her pyshic,she did n't want moralistic lectures, told time and again , your'e bad your'e bad... she wanted some one to love her and say... it's ok I understand why you did, do what you do, i'll help you fight it ..

With nakusha and baaji toh, it was obligatory on her part to hate them! But as far as why her hatred towards "dutta's women"couldn't be taken as a normal sister-in-law's insecurities is concerned, IMHO, it's because normally, when a sister-in-law gets insecure due to another woman in his brother's life, she doesn't plan to kill her, like she did with sups, with naku, she didn't needed to do so, coz the way tasha's marital life accelerated, no body could imagine, it'll reach the destiny called love, when it actually took place, before she could do anything, she was thrown out of what she claimed "her home", and when she came back, within few days she had decoded this "nakusha ke chehre ka raaz" and knew that things are gonna back to square one. Quite possible that if after the second marriage, things have been normal between Baaji, naku and dutta, kala would have kept herself occupied with plotting schemes to harm naku, or back fire baaji's work projects, and may be her horrendous act of planning dutta's accident could be postponed.again,Asih,a brilliant paragraph,with Baji he was yet another destitute adpoted male, brought onto the family ,courtesy of Dutta... she perhaps hated him , as he was seen as Dutta's strongest male bonding relationship. she knew he was Dutta's confidante, some one on whom dutta off loaded... previously she was the one... so again some one she considers her own.. she has to share with another.. and that may be the issue with Naku also... sharing dutta with another... so Asih.. has Kala got a problem with sharing... phele AS ko share kerna .. use ladke ke saath..

As far as her yearn for ruling the "dutta's world" is concerned, for me it was just the same way an adolescent tries to use his father's shaving kit or tries to wear her mother's saree. Coz the only thing he/ she could probably see being in the place of his/her parents is the perks, totally oblivious of the responsibility it brings with it, or the sheer hard work it requires, or the sacrifices it demand. The underworld which she knew, was a place where trading of such stuff took place, which if done by abiding the law, would cost heavy duty, not even in her dreams, this realization stuck to her, that this could be a place where flesh is traded with the same merciless coldness as objects and had it not been "dutta bhau" associated with her, strong chances that destiny would have led her to a circumstance similar to nakusha. She was aware of the fact that just mere the name of DSP is enough to make a bullet, coming towards her, take an about turn, but very easily decided to be unaware from the number of bullets; DSP took to build a stature so high, that even bullets were scared of him. The whole play of female don by her, to me, was just as children play chor police, being completely unware, what it takes to be a thief or cop! She was manipulative, through out her life she manipulated, others, but what led her to her doom was the fact while playing this manipulating game, which often went dirty, she didn't realized that she manipulated herself, the most, she illusioned that she needs dutta for his money, she ignored that she needs him for her survival, just like a parasite!!! 👏 fantastic paragraph.. aur kya bolon main... however, just a couple of things.. ok, so it appears that the woman hangs on to her brudders big name, bold name.. so no harm can come her way, so protection hai use Dutta ka naam ke...so that means ke she can do willy nilly.. in others words she could have been a worst person, operating out side the law.? aur come on Asih... she is the same as Dutta when it comes to becoming a Don...the woman is willing to take risks... think about it . Asish... Kala is a risk taker!Tashaan!

The "kala dutta" clashed that was witnessed, was inevitable, even if SP would not have been killed (accidently) by DP. As long as dutta and kala's path crossed each other in any whatsoever way, it would have happened. Reason, they both were similar in almost every trait yet poles apart on ethical background'''.such pairs are born to clash! TOUCHE!

Well that was all from my side, and just now I've realized that post transcended itself from being "post" and it's more like an essay, making people yawn'lol, and to top it all, I'm confused that was I evaluating kala's relationship with others or simply bashing her..lol.

phew! hooo haaa ..me breathless... nehi oye kurriye... loved every single word ju tune lega hai..chaal chance to mila mujhe to get to know you a bit... thank you sooo much.. for the time , effort you put in both ,Kala and 😆 me.haaa.. chaal ab tere meherbani... much love xx hammie


Edited by Hamlet53 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: IVY

mate! greattt to see you me thought you jetted off...missing you already..

Hammie...what a fantastic post 👏.
thank you... baaby.. waise nowadays hammie good for the barracks, so did go hainnn? up sooche ne is post mein kio chat masaala nehi tha... tu ..tad difficult to do it was..
Its so well written and analyzed ...You deserve a standing ovation my Shakespearean friend ⭐️

Kala wanted control in all her relationships...perhaps with the exception of AS...from whom she wanted unconditional acceptance and being the favored one.
her control over AS was a kind of bullying tactic.. by punishing her mother for the inclusion of Dutta and exclusion of herself... so what ever she did to Dutta, overtly.. bullied her mother with trauma which she was giving..
The mistress of manipulation would go to any extent and adopt any strategy to have the upper hand. It was as though her word should be the law. maybe that is why she hated Dutta more...because of the power and respect he commanded over Patilwadi and Ratnagiri.
Yes to her it was a power struggle between her and Dutta... the funny thing is Dutta never even contemplated a conflict existed between her and him..till the end..
Naku and Baji were out and out Dutta loyalist and showed her respect bec she was the older and Dutta's Tai.
true... and that was her strength.. to now the adversary 's weak points..
She dominated Kishore...but I guess by this time Kishore had grown indifferent towards her as she was past redemption. Maybe Anay was the major factor why he remained in that house...

yesss IVY... but Kishore could have been the one who could have support her by offering his shoulder.. but did he?... it was far from going to be easy.. but he never did.like every one else he gave up on her
loved your comments baaby... good to talk to you ivy..where ever...all my love xx hammie



Edited by Hamlet53 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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oyeee naku tu ah gaye..yess naku , major not in the barracks... but at PN...Apni Kala Tai ke pas...

Originally posted by: Nakusha

a very well written topic & visually appealing😊hammiee had to read when u write something

thanks for the write up, now jahan tak visual appeal ka talauq hai the credit goes to my Baji.. Daya ka , hai... so oye daya pappaya take a bow.. aur phir revision kar!
she hated her bro for that she had reason .she never loved her mom .sis hubby her only child .which is extremely rare she never knew wht luv is ready to put her own child in trouble .they should have shown some weakness & bit humane .kala is like a fairy tale charater
naku.. you have summed up well.. but naku.. tu sooch.. was she ever loved?... maa ko le la , she couldn't see her AS love her.. woh tu us larke mein busy thein... and as far as her baap was concerned tu, he was out of picture... tu hate he karege na use Dutta se aur un sab se bhi ju us ko pyar kerte hai!
i liked her scene mostly with chaskar for a change i enjoyed & laughed when she was with chaskar .chaskar & all other cameo were very truly entertaing .how much i miss it
yess I did write up called "kala ne Klass le" on that particular episode.. may be I should resurface it... seeing its Kala' week..
hammiee as always u are amazing 😊😊
phir se bol Naku! ... haaa hooo heee...much love nakuuussshaa


Edited by Hamlet53 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi hamlet
wonderful post very well analysed...kala was all devil nothing human ...she never had any relationship in term of actual luv she was ready to blow her mom ...endanger her child ...i felt writer felt short with her character ...there were flwas ...maybe to gloryfy her ...even the cameo were brilliant ...they could have done better with kala

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