Saawan jo agan lagaaye, use kaun bujhaaye?
Mazdhaar mein naiyaa dole, to Maanjhee paar lagaaye
Maanjhee jo naaw dooboye use kaun bachaaye?
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Originally posted by: *dewdrop~pearl*
You absolutely made sense 😛....I just loved your @ blue statements 👍🏼......
Originally posted by: Dancingdoll
Totally and completely agree with you Parul! You have summed Dutta's reactions well!
I havent seen todays episode and hence I am clueless about the new DON in town but generally speaking here -Initially when Naku entered his life, Dutta wasnt in any mood to transform. He was in pain and at times we dont realize but we get habituated and comfortable to live in that condition. We dont want a change, atleast not initiate it on our own and how could Dutta initiate a change on his own? He has to have a reason to change, there had to be a trigger or a kick! Naku was that trigger or kick and she showed him the "reason" to be "Sups". This was the motivation factor for him to start tranforming. But after Sups fiasco, he was pushed much more deeper in the pit than he was before. The old and the new bruises merged, creating a fatal wound and Naku took the fall...For few days Naku's patience and tolerance hit the deaf ears but gradually they started absorbing Naku's words and actions....and the result was a drastic 180 degree transformation,....Dutta started liking the new alien feeling, He found the air fresh and scented...He was enjoying the new world and he agreed that he was in love with Naku....He created a notion in his mind and credited her for this drastic change.Naku rescued him from a morass in which he was sinking deeper and deeper and with this notion in mind, he became unconsciously dependent on her support...He has numerous times gone to her invariably (whether in Friendship phase or when in love) even at the slightest of uneasiness!My dad always sings this song - Famous Rajesh Khanna song -Chingaaree koee bhadke, to saawan use bujhaaye
Saawan jo agan lagaaye, use kaun bujhaaye?(When the sparks of fire aggravate, the rain pacifies them, but if the rain speads the fire, then who would pacify the fire now?)
Mazdhaar mein naiyaa dole, to Maanghee paar lagaaye
Maanghee jo naaw dooboye use kaun bachaaye?(When the boat is about to sink in the water, the helmsman saves it, but if the helmsman is hell bent on drowning the boat, then who can save the boat?)
Here, Naku was the "saawan" or "Maanghee" for Dutta, the "chingaaree" or the "Naiyaa", but now this saawan or Maaghee, itself has betrayed him, atleast in Dutta's mind, then as per him, there is noone to rescue him anymore...He doesnt have a reason to change...The problem is that people dont realize that the change is for their own good and not for others.Also, As I mentioned in other post, This time I dont want an external help reaching Dutta, in the form of Jagtap, Subbu, Madhu or anyone....When a third person tries to show the way, you dont tranform 100%...You adopt a borrowed mind and work on it...This doesnt change YOUR own feelings and notions...They only get submerged in the deepest layer of your mind...But If you yourself make an attempt to change, you have your own "Aha" moment and then you can raze the unkempt notions without a trace!....The problem with Dutta is that he has always been interdependent on borrwed brains when it comes to his emotions, be it, Kala, Naku, AS or even baaji....Hence, he could never remove his inbuilt prejudiced notions from the ground....This causes him to keep falling in the same Morass time and again...He is not healed completely....If he wants to remove them permanently, he has to work on his own!! And its high time!...
Originally posted by: --Saaki--
Saaki, Accepting her is the result of transformation...Its the process in between that has meat and the secret for Dutta and Naku's happy coexistence for life!....Frankly, I am at a loss as to how Dutta would transform himself without external help, I just know that this time, no borrowed brains pls....Till he has his own Aha moment, born out of his own brooding, he would always have traces of prejudiced notions....Having said that, sometime Saaki, it is important to get inside the pit to clean it of trash...u just cant clean it from outside...he has to stay with these people to change his mindset on these people....Although, his living in basti is not a bad idea, as they say, "Aap beeti, toh jag beeti".....but dont you think if he just comes to know why Morey was behind Naku and what Anna's real intentions were, that shld be enough to boil his blood...after all, he does love Naku....The fact that what Naku could have suffered, or where she could have been, if Anna or Morey had got their way around Naku....that itself should send him in fury!!!.....Only if he would listen to her.....If Baaji could understand, Dutta would too...he afterall loves her like noone!
Originally posted by: prettywoman
Niki.. amazing amazing analysis.. i miss u so much on IF.. your posts are outstanding.. and wow, kya gaana chuna tune.. truly and aptly explains dutta dn nakku thru this song!
Originally posted by: Dancingdoll
Totally and completely agree with you Parul! You have summed Dutta's reactions well!
I havent seen todays episode and hence I am clueless about the new DON in town but generally speaking here -Initially when Naku entered his life, Dutta wasnt in any mood to transform. He was in pain and at times we dont realize but we get habituated and comfortable to live in that condition. We dont want a change, atleast not initiate it on our own and how could Dutta initiate a change on his own? He has to have a reason to change, there had to be a trigger or a kick! Naku was that trigger or kick and she showed him the "reason" to be "Sups". This was the motivation factor for him to start tranforming. But after Sups fiasco, he was pushed much more deeper in the pit than he was before. The old and the new bruises merged, creating a fatal wound and Naku took the fall...For few days Naku's patience and tolerance hit the deaf ears but gradually they started absorbing Naku's words and actions....and the result was a drastic 180 degree transformation,....Dutta started liking the new alien feeling, He found the air fresh and scented...He was enjoying the new world and he agreed that he was in love with Naku....He created a notion in his mind and credited her for this drastic change.Naku rescued him from a morass in which he was sinking deeper and deeper and with this notion in mind, he became unconsciously dependent on her support...He has numerous times gone to her invariably (whether in Friendship phase or when in love) even at the slightest of uneasiness!My dad always sings this song - Famous Rajesh Khanna song -Chingaaree koee bhadke, to saawan use bujhaaye
Saawan jo agan lagaaye, use kaun bujhaaye?(When the sparks of fire aggravate, the rain pacifies them, but if the rain speads the fire, then who would pacify the fire now?)
Mazdhaar mein naiyaa dole, to Maanjhee paar lagaaye
Maanjhee jo naaw dooboye use kaun bachaaye?(When the boat is about to sink in the water, the helmsman saves it, but if the helmsman is hell bent on drowning the boat, then who can save the boat?)
Here, Naku was the "saawan" or "Maanghee" for Dutta, the "chingaaree" or the "Naiyaa", but now this saawan or Maajhee, itself has betrayed him, atleast in Dutta's mind, then as per him, there is noone to rescue him anymore...He doesnt have a reason to change...The problem is that people dont realize that the change is for their own good and not for others.Also, As I mentioned in other post, This time I dont want an external help reaching Dutta, in the form of Jagtap, Subbu, Madhu or anyone....When a third person tries to show the way, you dont tranform 100%...You adopt a borrowed mind and work on it...This doesnt change YOUR own feelings and notions...They only get submerged in the deepest layer of your mind...But If you yourself make an attempt to change, you have your own "Aha" moment and then you can raze the unkempt notions without a trace!....The problem with Dutta is that he has always been interdependent on borrwed brains when it comes to his emotions, be it, Kala, Naku, AS or even baaji....Hence, he could never remove his inbuilt prejudiced notions from the ground....This causes him to keep falling in the same Morass time and again...He is not healed completely....If he wants to remove them permanently, he has to work on his own!! And its high time!...
Originally posted by: Dancingdoll
Saaki, Accepting her is the result of transformation...Its the process in between that has meat and the secret for Dutta and Naku's happy coexistence for life!....Frankly, I am at a loss as to how Dutta would transform himself without external help, I just know that this time, no borrowed brains pls....Till he has his own Aha moment, born out of his own brooding, he would always have traces of prejudiced notions....Having said that, sometime Saaki, it is important to get inside the pit to clean it of trash...u just cant clean it from outside...he has to stay with these people to change his mindset on these people....Although, his living in basti is not a bad idea, as they say, "Aap beeti, toh jag beeti".....but dont you think if he just comes to know why Morey was behind Naku and what Anna's real intentions were, that shld be enough to boil his blood...after all, he does love Naku....The fact that what Naku could have suffered, or where she could have been, if Anna or Morey had got their way around Naku....that itself should send him in fury!!!.....Only if he would listen to her.....If Baaji could understand, Dutta would too...he afterall loves her like noone!