Originally posted by: gp00
Hi Sara!
Your response got me thinking. I've never believed in TIT for TAT when it comes to men-women. Let me explain. If men act alpha-ish, there is no need for a woman to act that way, if that is NOT what she is. Women don't need to be men in skirts. 😉 What I believe in is that Naku should stop being a doormat. She doesn't need to get revenge upon Dutta, be mean, be like Dutta--she needs to open that mouth of hers and SAY what she's got to stay even if she has to scream, and stop crying, or bringing tea. I am no Naku...I would have yelled at him and said, who do you think you are? You think you are the only one life has been cruel to, that other people have been cruel to? You think that only you suffer or hurt? Well, you're NOT the only one. You think I've worn that kajal on my face to deceive YOU? To get YOU? It happened way BEFORE YOU ever existed in my life, and it has nothing to do with you. I made a mistake hiding it, and an even bigger one by not telling you why.....etc, etc. But not our Naku, because the way to show love is to take the insults, the anger, quietly...it shows everyone just how much you understand and love him.😆 The level of stupidity in these serials is unprecedented. It was okay 6 months ago on the show, but they really need to stop now.
Ah well here I would have to disagree! Naku doesn't take Dutta's anger and insults quietly because she's a doormat. She is doing it because she knows what he's like. She said it herself to him: "Your anger has clouded the way you see things." Even Kishore said something similar to him like that before: "Krodh aur Vivek khabhi ek saath nahin rehtay. Tanday dimaak say soocho. Aap apney saath naiye kar payien gaye. Aur Naku kay saath bhi."
Dutta doesn't WANT to listen right now. So Naku is being patient with him. She's letting him be angry and she will wait until he is in a better frame of mind to listen. If she starts arguing and shouting and getting angry then where will that get them? Dutta will get madder and more violent and possibly start trashing the whole house😆
You know what they say: It takes two to make an arguement. Don't you be one of them."
If noone is arguing back then eventually the person who started the arguing will have to stop and listen.
Just as Dutta explained to Naku that when she told him she loved him, her voice reached his ears but not his heart. Same thing here. His anger is his biggest flaw. And that anger is clouding his judgement. GHe still loves her though. He's just hurt that she kept this secret from him and the anger is a way of him showing that he's hurt. Once the anger fizzles out he'll listen to her. Naku is being clever by being patient and calm. With two people yelling and screaming at each other, that'll just make the situation worse.
Look, I personally don't like Naku as a character...too mahaan for me. I'm not a big believer in romantic martyrs. Let's put it this way, if there were a person like her in real life, while I would like her as a person, I would not want to have her around. She lacks that something. Not alpha male behavior patterns, but an identity, a basic almost elemental level of self-respect. She's "limited". Yes, all her life she's been made to look ugly, and hence she doesn't have much faith in herself. But, people get past far worse things in life.
She has self-respect. She just has a low self-esteem. And her love for Dutta is selfless. The girl hasn't really had a chance to explore herself what with the whole Black Cover Up thing and her mother hiding her from everyone including herself. If Naku didn't have self-respect she would not have fought Morey or Anna. She's just a person who puts complete trust in God and whatever happens she takes it as Destiny and tries to work with it. That's quite admirable to me. She's just really nice. And there ARE people like her in real life. But these type of people who are selfless and love with no expectation of receiving anything in return are very rare. They are special people.
Yes, I agree. Where Dutta is right now, is because Naku's lie has brought him there. Dutta in my mind is not your typical abusive husband--but make no mistake about it, he is an abusive human being. Words, shoves, all these things are abusive in nature. And I hope people watching these shows STOP ROMANTICIZING these things, even in movies, like the Taal scene you mentioned, which is still different from what we've seen in LTL. It's cute on TV and silly Bollywood movies, but in reality, a glass being thrown here and there is not so cute. And taking it and letting it happen is NOT courage. You respect Naku for handling things the way she is....I simply do not. What they're showing on LTL is absurd nowadays, and in the guise of romance and courage?😆
They haven't romanticised Dutta's violent behaviour. The guy is a Don. When he gets angry he ends up being violent. He hasn't really been violent to Naku though. He trashed their room but he hasn't laid a hand on her. He pushed her away from him. The guy doesn't mind his strength when he's angry. He hasn't beaten her or anything like that. That's just his character. He has a violent life. It's understandable that he would react like that when he's angry.
Naku was scared when he was doing his todh-phod but how was she supposed to stop him? Get in his way??? I don't think that would have been clever of Naku. She let him do that because he needed to vent. I don't know where the Romance was in that Scene. It was just Dutta being all angry and heartbroken and Naku being all depressed and scared.😕
Do you know why they call dogs men's best friend? Because men don't have to do anything, and that dog will come running to it and give it whatever affection, company, and patience he needs...but last time I looked, though she acts like man's best friend, Naku is undeniably a human being! 😆 Have Naku just speak up for herself and get this damn story over with already...
Again she is waiting for the right time. He is angry right now. He is not in the mood to listen. So all anyone can do is wait. You cannot force someone to stop being angry. In fact, telling him to calm down and listen or yelling at him to get through to him would make him MORE angry. Again just like Naku said: His anger is clouding his judgement. When he's calmed down then they will talk.
That is a mature approach to the situation. She DOES speak up for herself. Dutta just doesnt want to listen yet. So until hes ready she can wait. It's not like she has anywhere she needs to be after all.
By the Don thing, I should have been clearer. I did not mean it for LTL. But it would be something to reverse gender roles, and see how much romance we would see if the roles were reversed. Would such a story still be a great love story?
Well there have been books that have been written like that where the Female is the one in charge. And that kind of female would need have a different personality. Sherrilyn Kenyon writes stories like that. It would depend on how the story is handled which would make it a good story or not.
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