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Posted: 8 years ago
Well looks to me that Vicky may be back. Dev despite not approving of it will allow Vicky to come back. Vicky will do another kaand.. Maybe with soha involved and this will open the eyes of Ishu and family. But Dev will pay for listening to his family. Sonakshi, what should I say now... She is in a delusion of perfect family where no one is perfect and continues to be in dream world. From here on Dev will stop listening to anyone as only he was right
In this whole thing I suspect some harm to Soha or intended harm to Soha but Golu being affected
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: timbarucha83

I am understanding what you are trying to say but if sona tell the above reason then it will not be hidden by golu. As the both brother and sister don't hide any thing or I will say can't hide and it will affect golu and his behaviour with vickki and dev and sona will not want this and elena and mami will create a big issue so its problematic.


Timba, I understand what you are saying. I want to share a couple of personal examples. I have a friend whose son is in the same class as my son. When he was in 2nd grade, his mother at the beginning of school year itself went to the teacher and told him that the son himself is responsible for his assignments. And that the teacher can give him detention to her son if he doesn't complete them. But she will not do anything about it. I was surprised when I came to know about it. I was helping my son with his homework at that time. Cause from my perspective he was still a child who needed my help. And didn't need to take all responsibility now itself. Her son did really bad that year. He didn't turn in any assignment, spent playing when he should have been doing homework, all except didn't fail in the final exam. Since in US, they don't really fail kids in the early years, he got promoted to next grade. But the son had learnt his lesson. He changed his habits and started taking responsibility. Started being a "A" grade student since 3rd grade. I did that when my son was in 5th grade. I told my son that if he needs help to ask me, but I will not sit with him to teach each and every answer. But it did good. He started understanding where he was going wrong and learnt how to overcome problems.

Around the same age, he was a picky eater. Getting him to eat the food made at home was a pin. It took him a long time to eat and also he would make up hundreds of excuses, cry, whine etc. So one day we showed him pictures of Somalia kids. Since then he stopped being fussy. He started to appreciate the food he got, value what food means and now he actually thanks for the food he gets everyday. And when I make a special dish or something that he really loves, he will be like thank you very much for taking this trouble for me.

The reason I mentioned is sometimes the truth is needed, at least a part of it to help teach them what is right and what is wrong. And that wrongs have consequences. True that Suhana may tell Golu and it may harm their relationship. But this is a truth that they cannot keep it hidden through out their life. The child has to come to know the truth. And it would be better if the child comes to know through proper channels and not someone else who may distort it and take advantage of the children. Which is exactly what Vickky is doing now. He is relying on the goody goody heart of Dev and Sonakshi. Now he is in such a position where he can take complete advantage of it and ruin everything. But if Soha knows the truth, then she can be on the guard and the crisis can be averted. And that is very important than anything else.

I haven't watched today's episode, but going by written update, it looks like Vickky has not really changed. The parallel the makers have created is amazing. Last year at this time, Dev reveals his love for Sonakshi to Ishwari and she pretends to accept it. Sonakshi will have doubts, but she also goes with the flow. But around mid August, Ishwari takes a overdose of sleeping pills and ends up in hospital. That is when Dev gets to know his mom's real feelings regarding his relationship with Ishwari.

Going by this, today Vickky's pretensions is being accepted as the truth. That he has really changed and feels remorse for what he has done. So next week we will see clues about how he hasn't really changed. And if they want to also add the parallel where Elena went missing and the family didn't know where she was, suhana will go missing believing her "chaachu". If at that time Vickky had stolen from office, this time he will probably demand ransom. And this will lead to the whole family coming to know the true face of Vickky. And at that time it may be Golu who saves Suhana and brings her back. I guess the spoilers regarding Vickky kidnapping Suhana is true after all...😆 😆

The text about the kidnapping is my imagination and don't know if the makers will take that route or not. It is something that I am guessing based on the episodes from last year. But am excited for next week and especially for the same date as the day Ishwari overdosed. That day episode will be something special is my belief. And that is when maami will have no choice but to admit that she has created a monster in her son and that he can never come back. That he is a goner and that her greed and upbringing is responsible for it.
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Posted: 8 years ago

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I do not know if I am right but some where I feel this happens when you give the child the independence to take their decisions too early in life when they have not even experienced the life beyond the confines of their home. Sonakshi has given that independence to Soha right from the time she has started understanding things be it meeting her father, decision to accept her father etc. So Soha has now assumed that whatever decisions she takes are right. Remember after the camp as well she did the same when her wish was not fulfilled and even today.
Sonakshi suddenly cannot tell her that they do not concur with her decision even if it's wrong as it will be then a question on her as well.

Just my POV, no offence.


Howsoever independence I might give to my child, I will stop him if he is taking a wrong decision, insulting his elders or overstepping his bounds.

That has nothing to do with the child's overinflated opinion of oneself.

At my age I take all my decisions. My parents know this and acknowledge it. Do You think my mother still doesn't stop me or give a nice lecture if she feels I am doing something wrong? In fact I got one five minutes ago as I was caught stuffing my mouth with sweets. It would have been unnatural for my mother not to give me a dressing down.

If a mother feels that she can't stop her child from doing something wrong due to xyz reasons, then I am sorry to say, she doesn't have the maternal genes.

Sonakshi stayed quite because she actually empathasised with Soha.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: _Payalj_



Howsoever independence I might give to my child, I will stop him if he is taking a wrong decision, insulting his elders or overstepping his bounds.

That has nothing to do with the child's overinflated opinion of oneself.

At my age I take all my decisions. My parents know this and acknowledge it. Do You think my mother still doesn't stop me or give a nice lecture if she feels I am doing something wrong? In fact I got one five minutes ago as I was caught stuffing my mouth with sweets. It would have been unnatural for my mother not to give me a dressing down.

If a mother feels that she can't stop her child from doing something wrong due to xyz reasons, then I am sorry to say, she doesn't have the maternal genes.

Sonakshi stayed quite because she actually empathasised with Soha.



I agree, parents even though give us the independence to take decisions still have the right rather should stop their kids when they see them going overboard.
What was more surprising today was that just yesterday Ishwari had scolded Dev for raising his voice against Mami but today Sonakshi chose to keep quite when Soha was doing the same with Dev
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Posted: 8 years ago
Timbarucha


If Sonakshi is not telling the truth to keep Golu's relationship with Vicky unaffected,here her daughter's equation with her father is facing danger. What kind of an excuse it is? I can't swallow it if really Sonakshi thinks so. Any way a very big disappointment for me to see Sonakshi not tell Soha the truth of Vikky. My guess was right about Vikky. He did not change. I hope Dev won't succumb to pressure tactics. Elena can stoop so low I can't believe. She is literally trying to black mail Dev making Golu the bait. So irritated with her.




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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sp12


I do not know if I am right but some where I feel this happens when you give the child the independence to take their decisions too early in life when they have not even experienced the life beyond the confines of their home. Sonakshi has given that independence to Soha right from the time she has started understanding things be it meeting her father, decision to accept her father etc. So Soha has now assumed that whatever decisions she takes are right. Remember after the camp as well she did the same when her wish was not fulfilled and even today.
Sonakshi suddenly cannot tell her that they do not concur with her decision even if it's wrong as it will be then a question on her as well.

Just my POV, no offence.


I haven't watched the episode so only throwing my 2 cents based on my belief and experience. Two wrongs do not make it right. Here Sonakshi's daughter's and husband's future relationship is at stake. She can not act as dumb spectator to save her image in front of her daughter if that is what she was shown to do in the episode. This can damage her daughter's approach, outlook and belief to life and people around her for ever. For Sonakshi, as a mother, correcting what her child thinks and how she behaves with child's father like Dev (we are not talking about Vicky here) in an illegitimate demand should be the priority not her own image.

And @Timbarucha, if Sonakshi is doing this to save Golu's relationship with Vicky than only expression I have is "God please help our Dear Dev Dixit."

Again, these 2 cents are only my POV without watching the episode. Not trying to shoot down anyone else's views.

Thanks.

Ji 😃 😃 😃
Edited by GKaPyar - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
@DQ why that sad face...

Guys everyone's posts are amazing!

I knew Vicky was faking all this... he used his own child to get back into the house.. its pathetic and disgusting.. Now him coming back will be worse! I think the Dixits soon are going to repent.. they may be out on the streets ... and Ex GKB is going to get it big time .. it's the final straw!

PS: I wish Sonakshi would tell Soha what Vicky has done.. she should be the one to protect her family first, just like what Dev said, his first duty is to protect his family .. and he reacted due to his instinct... but true it's was not good in front of the kids!
Edited by amaypranay - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Uhh..Dont hate me

But I am quite excited after this episode..and looking forward to upcoming track..Actually episode was much better then I expected it to be..and makes me hopeful too..I am looking forward to Vicky's return and then how things will unfold..with Dev Sona unwillingly welcoming Vicky back..I am thrilled to be honest..This time Vicky will be back on some conditions also even if he comes back to business also before he could harm Dev something will happen thats gonna be disaster for him..He is too over confident ATM with his plan getting successful..Thsi overconfidence shall bring his doom..Now Dev will be more alert yes he will succumb to family pressure but with his baby business..He never took anything lightly ever before this time he will be 100 times more alert..also I guess his trusting Vicky wont come easy.. plus Sonakshi may think Vicky should be given a chance as he is trying hard but she will not be persuasive regarding things related to Vicky..

Best thing that happened today..Dev melted seeing Golu pleading but atleast he didnt bend to his demand helplessly..even though his family was constantly staring & pushing him with expectant eyes..to give in..Cheers to Mr Dixit..I am glad you stayed firm on your stand..Another scene which was interesting was mamaji Dev conversation he wasn't weak or broken visibly..he was sad but still looked pretty much firm on his action

"Tere aur Vicky ke beech jo kuch bhi hua,us mein tu galat kahin nahi hai..par ye sab bachhon ke samne nahi hona chahiye tha"

Also post Vicky's return..I guess his mask wont stay for too long and it will slip away sooner then we think..Just being hopeful with all my fingers toes legs hands all crossed

OH By the way congratulations to Vicky he succeeded in his plan for the very first time ..Isnt it great HAHA party toh banti hai bhai..Pehli baar.chamatkaar hua LOL..Okay sorry just kidding

PS Cross 30 pages guys :)..Alot of masala in episode to discuss

No offense..My POV
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Posted: 8 years ago
My reactions are same even without watching the episode.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Another Friday ends with providing us another reason for our blood to boil over the weekends...

While I do admit, I did not like some aspects of the episode.. And, it was pretty average episode... But, I never had any kind of huge expectations from this episode, in any case...

Usually, my favorite episodes of the week usually happens on either Tuesdays/Wednesdays, since these are the days when most of the tracks are resolved or built... In fact, I was more relieved than anything else...

Since, we already know Vicky's plan, it will be interesting to see how he tries to use his own son and his relationship with his BigCha... And, like always, his plan will fail... I am sure that he will be able to cause some pain to Dev but I am pretty sure by the end of this track, Tripathis' time is more or less coming to an end...

And, while I was slightly annoyed seeing Sonakshi not raising her voice when Soha was packing her bags and then, let's see how all of this unfolds...

But, seeing Soha today reminded me of Sona in her initial marriage days, when she always had a habit of running to Bose house as soon as she heard a 'No' or faced a problem in IN...

And, frankly yelling or reprimanding her at this point, will not be effective simply because Soha is in no mood of listening to anyone... Yes, slapping her might induce a fear in her but it will also just make her more rebellious in the long run... We are already seeing the result of such an upbringing in the form of Vicky...

I am not saying that either Dev or Sona are like Mamaji or Mami, but I hope you get what I mean...

In my opinion, independence given too early, will lead to mistakes.. Simply, because kids don't understand all the complications that comes with taking serious decisions... They live in a Black or White world, but we can't also shelter them completely...

So, while they should be given some sort of independence, but yes, parents should also be aware of setting boundaries and ensuring that their children understand to live in those restrictions, until they are ready to deal with bigger challenges...

And, this is something, that both Sonakshi and Dev will only understand with time and patience... They are still learning and understanding to work as a single unit and especially, in regards to Soha..

So, yeah, while we may not like it, but it is something that they will and should learn for future...

But, it is better if Soha commits those mistakes and faces the consequences of her own decisions, now than after turning 18.. And, I trust Dev and Sona enough that they will be firm if Soha decides to do something completely stupid and stop her...

Children are rebellious and this is especially true for ones like Soha... Even if Sonakshi tells her the complete truth, she is not going to believe her since she has the confidence that her assessment of her Vicky chachu is right... Or, for that matter, her outspoken behaviour when her parents came to know of her result was acceptable...

And, hence, if she later comes to know that her newfound trust and confidence on her so-called 'new' friend was completely wrong or that her attitude with regards to her parents was wrong, then, she will automatically realise the enormity of her mistakes and correct them...

I don't think that either Dev or Sona will fulfil any of her unnecessary wishes or desires... As far as I remember, both Dev and Sona said a clear 'No' to their daughter, when she threatened them to leave for Kolkata... The only reason why she succeeded was because Bijoy was supportive of her decision, for his own selfish desires...

This is not the case here...

While she has a lot of Sona in her, but it is obvious from her actions of keeping a note of her own mistakes so that she can ask forgiveness later on, that she is feeling some kind of guilt and genuine remorse... It is clear that her inner conscience is still pricking her and I believe, she has also inherited Dev's quality of understanding her flaws and correcting them by taking the required measures...

I am not saying Sona and Dev should not intervene, they should... But, I don't getting grounded or being reprimanded will do anything until and unless Soha, herself comes to the conclusion that she committed a huge mistake and is prepared to correct herself...

While being independent does make children prone to committing mistakes, but it also teaches them how to overcome them and most importantly, make them realise that every decision comes with their own set of consequences...

And, while their parents or loved ones might give all the support in the world and give them the hand to raise themselves from the ground, where they have fallen... But, in the end, it is their responsibility and their decision to give their hands to them and take their support in pulling themselves up from the ground...

I am not predicting anything but this is my hope... But, I will wait for few days before I pass my judgement on this matter...

The creatives might not exactly give us what we want, the way we want it, but they do end up fulfilling our wishes, one way or another...

Have a great weekend, everyone...

-Suyash.


Edited by Harryfan011 - 8 years ago

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