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Posted: 8 years ago
I think the show is way off track and they do an amazing job of glorifying all the wrong things but there is one observation I had to make. About how much we are affected by what we see and we rarely dig deep to see whether that person deserves censure/sympathy. Dev has been quite selfless in a lot of ways in so far as his family is concerned. To the extent that he destroyed his own life in the process. He was the only one managing the company for all practical purposes and its obvious he adores Golu and loves Soha. Yet at this point, Vicky and mami have created this illusion of being there for Dev and handling his business and home for all these years. While the truth is that they leached off Dev and screwed his life and he finally had enough of it, what is being perceived is the exact opposite.
Reality- Vicky was freeloading and destroyed Dev's life and Dev finally lost it
Perception- Vicky made mistakes. Big deal. He is trying to change himself but Dev is being a bully and abusing the reformed Mahatma Gandhi

Reality- He never cared for the kids and tried his best to get rid of Soha. Used Golu to get Dev's property while Dev loves Golu and Soha selflessly
Perception- Aww Vicky is amazing. He loves the kids and spends time with them. Bigcha/papa is a bully who cant see it and he needs to bow down to amazing Vicky 😆

Reality- Dev did mistakes and screwed his own life. Half was instigated by mami and half was a result of his mom's emotional blackmailing and his blind love for his mom coupled with his impulsive nature. RR and Vicky took full advantage and enjoyed life to the fullest
Perception. Dev did mistakes. Vicky also did mistakes. Big deal. Dev is forgiven and he is super happy (😆) while poor Vicky is being tortured cos Dev gets his way and no one stands up to him.

Reality- Dev always managed the company. Even when he was depressed, he had an eye on it and made sure it was running on profits. Vicky got into the company using his mom and Ishwari, used company funds for his own personal needs, sold the office space without Dev's consent, was involved in tax scams, stole the software etc. etc.
Perception- Dev was depressed and ignored his life and family and company for 7 years while Vicky efficiently managed it all.

Point is you can be good and do all the good in the world yet if you are short tempered and suck at perception management, you'l always be screwed in life. But you can suck, plot and plan yet if you know how to create the right impression, half the battle is won. I saw that back in the day with Sona and Ishwari. Sona was always the quiet one who selflessly cared for Dev yet it was Ishwari who got most of the credit cos she knew what to say and what tantrum to throw to get Dev to dance to her tunes. Bijoy is similar in the sense that he has the best of intentions yet he ends up saying the wrong stuff at times or impulsively does something so ppl just don notice his good intentions. History is repeating with Dev and Vicky now and its not surprising that everyone is feeling sorry for Vicky and forcing Dev to give in 😆 Though I really do hate the fact that the writers glorify the perceived good rather than the actual good in characters and validate every wrong action out there in the name of love.
Edited by astrix90 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
I still could not come out of the shock that Elena gifted me yesterday.Even now I could see only her accusing face when Dev looks at her may be in anticipation of understanding and support but what did he get in turn? Nothing but a look of remorse and anger.
What did she expect from Dev when she revealed Vicky's role in separation? A big hug and consolation for Vicky? She is away from her husband just for days and already feeling that Vicky's crime can be overlooked and pardoned.

Due to Vicky's deed seven years they lost..Dev and Sonakshi. How many days and hours exist in seven years if she can count Elena would have to hide her head somewhere but not in Iswari Nivas.Dev and Sona are primarily responsible for their break up but still if Vicky did not create such misunderstandings they would have considered a patch up atleast in the wake of Sona's pregnancy.


I thought Elena genuinely understands Dev of all the people but I was wrong. She proved to be an opportunist who will stand by Dev on her conditions.This conditional love,concern etc be came the reality of Dev's life. Everyone loves him only on their own conditions. Even Soha...

My heart bleeds for you Dev Dixit..Only we your admirers could sail with you in any situation. No one else. But I am happy for you.. Your life,your love supported you and understood your concern for your daughter. If Sonakshi stands by you ,where is the need of others ' support?

Thanks Sonakshi for not breaking his heart by supporting Vicky. For only you can break him or heal him... Enjoy the togetherness by being with him.Ultimately you both matter every one else is secondary.


Lakshmi


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

I still could not come out of the shock that Elena gifted me yesterday.Even now I could see only her accusing face when Dev looks at her may be in anticipation of understanding and support but what did he get in turn? Nothing but a look of remorse and anger.

What did she expect from Dev when she revealed Vicky's role in separation? A big hug and consolation for Vicky? She is away from her husband just for days and already feeling that Vicky's crime can be overlooked and pardoned.

Due to Vicky's deed seven years they lost..Dev and Sonakshi. How many days and hours exist in seven years if she can count Elena would have to hide her head somewhere but not in Iswari Nivas.Dev and Sona are primarily responsible for their break up but still if Vicky did not create such misunderstandings they would have considered a patch up atleast in the wake of Sona's pregnancy.


I thought Elena genuinely understands Dev of all the people but I was wrong. She proved to be an opportunist who will stand by Dev on her conditions.This conditional love,concern etc be came the reality of Dev's life. Everyone loves him only on their own conditions. Even Soha...

My heart bleeds for you Dev Dixit..Only we your admirers could sail with you in any situation. No one else. But I am happy for you.. Your life,your love supported you and understood your concern for your daughter. If Sonakshi stands by you ,where is the need of others ' support?

Thanks Sonakshi for not breaking his heart by supporting Vicky. For only you can break him or heal him... Enjoy the togetherness by being with him.Ultimately you both matter every one else is secondary.


Lakshmi


Dear this was bound to happen at the base vickki and elena both are the selfish character the girl who don't care about the family who love her like their own daugther and give the preference to vickki . So this was bound to happen . I comlpetly agree with the point mentain in the another post . She was expecting that dev and entire family will forgive vickki like they alway do so she was expecting vickki's return . Whole thripathi clan is selfish and feel dixit house is their house and ishu mata is stil not out of the blind love for her brother's family and ehasan .I just hope in near future thripathi family will pay the price of their crimes and ishu also come out of her blind love and ehasan .
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Posted: 8 years ago
@ timbarucha

I agree I misjudged Elena and her loyalties towards Dev. Now I realised what sort of loyalty she has... One attempt from Vicky bowled her over and she ditched Dev who took care of her kid when she and her husband literally never bothered about him. It hurts.


Lakshmi

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: timbarucha83


.I just hope in near future thripathi family will pay the price of their crimes and ishu also come out of her blind love and ehasan .



The one thing that can break the bond between Ishwari and RR is if RR equates the stealing that Vickky intended to do with Ishwari's stealing of the bangles. Ishwari is sympathetic towards RR as she considers her to be like her who has suffered and hence needs her support. But the moment RR equates the above 2 acts and says that her son deserves forgiveness just like Ishwari, it will be like a wake up call to Ishwari.

Whatever Ishwari did, she did in dire situation. With that feeling of not having a way out. But Vickky and maami's deeds are from a place of greed. Ishwari dies a thousand deaths commiting that act and felt genuine remorse her whole life. But Vickky's deeds did not stem from 'need' but 'want' and he hasn't really shown any true self reproach for his actions. If he was not caught in the act, he would have happily thrown the Dixits out of everything and would have laughed at their predicament. Only when this difference is brought out in the open will the family realize the enormity of the consequences of Vickky's actions. What he was about to do and what Dev averted.

How this will happen is my curiosity. That is when Ishwari will stop being that 'sister' to her bhabhi and will realize that they are in fact not just 2 different people, but 2 strangers in a sense. What I mean is that Ishwari for now thinks of her like family and feels that she knows her. That maami too thinks the same and considers them as one family. But when she finds that maami is nothing like her and her ideas is so different and as one who is ready to sell her family will Ishwari stop giving importance to maami completely.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

@ timbarucha

I agree I misjudged Elena and her loyalties towards Dev. Now I realised what sort of loyalty she has... One attempt from Vicky bowled her over and she ditched Dev who took care of her kid when she and her husband literally never bothered about him. It hurts.


Lakshmi



Lakshmi, it goes back to what Ishwari asked Nikki in the episode where Nikki comes to IN with Laksh the first time. When Nikki says that she is with Laksh because she was alone and it was not her fault. Ishwari told Nikki that being an adult meant taking responsibility for her decisions. That is the exact same thing. When Vickky and Elena marry and come to IN, Asha calls Sonakshi and says "she is your younger sister. You need to take care of her". And that is what Vickky and Elena are -- the irresponsible younger siblings of the older responsible siblings. Neither Elena nor Vickky were ever allowed to take responsibility for their actions or decisions. Till date neither Vickky nor Elena had to take any responsibility. Elena like always expected Sonakshi to handle everything and make Dev bring back Vickky. That is what she conveyed to Sonakshi when the later told her that Vickky is working as a manager.

All of them are still seeing Vickky as the "younger brother of Dev Dixit the business tycoon". They are so worried about the false pride of his fall from being the CEO to being the manager. They think it is beneath him. That he deserves better. Only maamaji has that respect towards dignity of labor. He is the only one who is not ashamed of Vickky's current position. Elena due to Dev's act is now thinking that what Vickky said was true. That Dev will forget their son cause he got his own daughter. But the younger siblings have to grow up one day and have to start taking responsibility for their own actions and decisions. Both Vickky and Elena need to see the real world in order to realize what they had and what they gained by their acts, their life.

Today I am feeling that Vickky and Elena are very much like Lydia and Wickham from the book Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen. Conversely I used to think that Dev and Sonakshi were like Darcy and Elizabeth from the same book. But seeing them now, it feels they are more like Jane and Bingley who are too good and soft spoken at heart.
Edited by Shaavi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi



The one thing that can break the bond between Ishwari and RR is if RR equates the stealing that Vickky intended to do with Ishwari's stealing of the bangles. Ishwari is sympathetic towards RR as she considers her to be like her who has suffered and hence needs her support. But the moment RR equates the above 2 acts and says that her son deserves forgiveness just like Ishwari, it will be like a wake up call to Ishwari.

Whatever Ishwari did, she did in dire situation. With that feeling of not having a way out. But Vickky and maami's deeds are from a place of greed. Ishwari dies a thousand deaths commiting that act and felt genuine remorse her whole life. But Vickky's deeds did not stem from 'need' but 'want' and he hasn't really shown any true self reproach for his actions. If he was not caught in the act, he would have happily thrown the Dixits out of everything and would have laughed at their predicament. Only when this difference is brought out in the open will the family realize the enormity of the consequences of Vickky's actions. What he was about to do and what Dev averted.

How this will happen is my curiosity. That is when Ishwari will stop being that 'sister' to her bhabhi and will realize that they are in fact not just 2 different people, but 2 strangers in a sense. What I mean is that Ishwari for now thinks of her like family and feels that she knows her. That maami too thinks the same and considers them as one family. But when she finds that maami is nothing like her and her ideas is so different and as one who is ready to sell her family will Ishwari stop giving importance to maami completely.

Yes I agree with what you are saying but for that first dev should bring back vickki home for the sake of soha and golu. Then he will come back his original form but should not allow him in his business so he will be in the need of money and try to cheat the other members like ishu mata and get caught then mata will come out of the blind love and ehasan .See if dev required to take they the firm step against mamj and vickki then it should be initiated by ishu only because she is the reason they act like this. And when they dev's firm step supported by ishu mata tripathi clan's actual downfall will start.
Edited by timbarucha83 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

@ timbarucha

I agree I misjudged Elena and her loyalties towards Dev. Now I realised what sort of loyalty she has... One attempt from Vicky bowled her over and she ditched Dev who took care of her kid when she and her husband literally never bothered about him. It hurts.


Lakshmi


I cant agree more with both of you... Elena was always very selfish. She was the one who ran away from home and got married to a despicable person like Vicky who had insulted Sona and herself so many times. Yet she went against her family and married him. Similarly if she was so much in love with Vicky she should have walked out before. Now she also wants easy money and a good lifestyle which comes with staying with the Dixits and thats why she wants him back.
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Posted: 8 years ago
One surprising thing in the episode, mamaji n mamaji are actually discussing about their son. They are not taunting each other. Common problems bring people closer I guess. 😛
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

@ timbarucha

I agree I misjudged Elena and her loyalties towards Dev. Now I realised what sort of loyalty she has... One attempt from Vicky bowled her over and she ditched Dev who took care of her kid when she and her husband literally never bothered about him. It hurts.


Lakshmi


Well frankly I lost my sympathies for Elena from the day she started falling for Vicky, I mean here was a guy who passes lewd comments on you when you are alone in the middle of the Night, then again passes remarks when you visit the Dixit house for the first time, passes dirty comments for your sister, you accuse him of misbehaving during sangeet and that's when Dev stands up for you, your sister advices you to be careful of him and yet you go ahead and marry the same person by running away shaming your uncle & aunt, how much more ridiculous can it be. If that was not enough the very first night you come to Dixit mansion you instead of stopping your so called husband you support him in sending your sister & husband out of their room so that you can enjoy your night. You keep quite when your husband & mother in law accuse your family, tell that golu is your unwanted child,Dev stopped Vicky from physically abusing you and you still have the audacity to accuse Dev just because he hit one slap. I am sorry but you are just another Tripathi who knows nothing but living off on others money.
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