*Season 2, Week 29* Analysis Thread - Page 15

Meri family. Ishwari meri jaan! Nikki was right. You and Dev do have a Wi-Fi connection. You think of your family and he builds bolstered castle walls around his.

What an amazing change in the leads! What I want to specifically point out is that Dev and sona are not making a nuclear family here. For the record, I live in one and don't condemn either style. The point is, that Dev has started giving Sona the big family happiness (awesome post payal! And I don't even want to say welcome back. You were always here :) )... And sona has started expressing the solidarity he expects from meri family.

I couldn't post in detail yesterday. Each passing episode has paved way for the epiphany and it will only get better.

I don't want to repeat what some of the amazing writers have said in the last few pages. The writers very meticulously brought the protagonists to this point.

1. Ishwari started gathering courage to detach herself from Dev. Today she chose the absolutely right thing to call him out on at an absolutely shitty moment. I mean dev up against Vicky. It doesn't get worse than this. Mamaji offline and mami in live did amazing damage here.

2. Sona made me so proud today. She needed to sound out the soha issue. And she walks in with such conviction. Almost telling baba and dada to take their ailments elsewhere and grabbing her mother for some brainstorming

3. And dev! He just drew the lines today. It didn't matter what he did was right or wrong. He did the same 7-8 years ago in a Delhi police station. And he only cares for reasons. When ishwari refused to validate him, he refused to be dragged into more manipulation.

I don't know what's in store for us.

Payal , special mention of your point about the mamaji-ishwari relationship. I have always found the duo are the actual makers of the dixit ehsaan. Mami simply encashes it. Mamaji obviously cares more for ishwari's family than he does for Radha's. That includes the grandkids too.

When maami was first introduced in the show, she called herself Radha Rani. After burning her house and moving to IN, she called herself GKB. After the leap, she now refers to herself as Ex-GKB. This shows how her mind has changed and is so warped in itself. Just like how Ishwari's insecurity took on a life of its own and consumed her identity, GKB's greed and that blind love for wanting her son in a place same as Dev has consumed her. She has now reached a stage where she is not able to realize who she is. That she is Baldev Tripati's wife, not a Dixit. No matter how much she feels entitled to Dev's riches, she doesn't really have any stakes in it. She cannot demand anything.

When she talks to maamaji regarding Vickky being a restaurant manager, she does it with a bowed head. As though Vickky has done something shameful. Even Vickky felt that he was doing something shameful by working as the manager. Maami did not feel that shame when Vickky did all those other things including stealing from office. She justified his actions by saying that they are entitled by the ehsaan's they had previously done. So from her perspective whatever Dev has, they have a part in it too. But the truth is no one can claim a stake on his property and wealth except Sonakshi and Suhana. Even with the prenup, Ishwari couldn't really retain any wealth for herself and her daughters if Dev decided to give it away. It is Dev's goodness that he shares his hard earned everything with them.

In season 1, when Dev comes back after the rehiring of Sonakshi who left due to maami's manipulation, maami tries to say that he shouldn't have done that. At that time, maamaji comes there and apologizes on her behalf. He tells that "pati patni ka paapon ka issedaar hai. And he tells maami "paraaya ghar mein itna haq math jathao to maami. Both Dev and Ishwari tell maamaji that they are not "paraya and that this house was theirs as much as it was theirs. There is a similar understanding given to maami when she is caught red handed by Sonakshi trying to steal from Ishwari's night stand. Then too Dev tells that she was the elder of the house and had the right to take money from anywhere from the house. GKB believes this to be true. She feels entitled for something that is not really hers. She is not seeing that as the goodness of Dev and Ishwari and now Sonakshi's. From her pov, she has come to believe that they have complete right on both IN and Dev's property.

When Vickky's truth came to light all of them thought that Dev would forgive him like usual. This was the expectation if not by all at least by Vickky and maami. Now that they are seeing that Dev is still angry and that he doesn't want Vickky anywhere near, they are not able to digest it. They are still seeing Vickky as the "chota bhai. From my experience, usually the elder siblings are expected to take responsibility of the younger siblings. But the parents forget that these younger siblings grow up. That the elder sibling cannot take responsibility of everything the younger sibling does. In tha episode when Dev reveals Vickky's doings, the first thing maami tells him is that Vickky was his "chota bhai. For her, her son is not a "grown up man, he is still a "child. When maami tried to induce maamaji to talk to Dev to get Vickky back, maamaji tells her, he is not a small child anymore. Let him walk by himself. But maami is not ready to. She is exactly like Ishwari for whom Dev was still her 8 year child even when he was all grown up. Only recently did Ishwari agree that her son is a grown up now. Maami is on that path.

But it is not an easy path. She still doesn't realize the enormity of the ramifications of Vickky's actions because the one who suffered from this the most is Dev. Only when the complete picture of Dev's pain and Vickky's wrongdoings come to light is when she will realize. Duryodhana had to die for Dritharastra to admit that his son made terrible mistakes. Similarly something big needs to happen to jolt GKB to reality. She also needs to stop seeing Vickky as just Dev's brother. She needs to start looking at him as he, himself, independent of Dev and the Dixits. And my guess is Vickky is the one who is going to give her that jolt, by refusing to come back to IN. Only when she stops wearing those fancy sarees and heavy jewelry will she realize who she is. When she embraces and goes back to being "just maami Radha Rani is when she will begin her realization and redemption.

I think this track is for the separation of the Dixits from Tripatis. So that they can go back to being 2 families which is what they actually are. For the Tripati's to accept each other as they are. Not as they want them to be. For maami to realize that the "value of a home is not counted by how many luxuries and comforts it has, but by the love and care by the members of the family. That greed is not a good thing.

P.S: I somehow feel that Vickky hasn't really changed. I mean if he had he would not feel ashamed of his position as manager. He would be proud of himself that he is doing the right thing. But the fact that he feels ashamed of that job shows that he still feels that he is the victim and has not really done a horrible thing. That Dev should have forgiven him like before. That he doesn't deserve the punishment given to him.

Originally posted by: sjain

I might be odd one out here ..but Payal particularly taking about Dev Ishwari..their track and their scene was the one which actually intrigued me and I see a lot of scope in it to be honest..they are actually developing it in nice way..I am not particularly mentioning what happened today but looking at past few episodes..Its gonna be quite interesting and refreshing in up coming episodes..something which we always wanted to see and their bond infact gonna improve and will be strengthened I have feeling

Good to see you back :)

No offense My POV

Some points I observed from the recent episodes :

# To end Dev Sona fight , jst PUSH them into rains . Had this world b like that , there wudn've any world wars or even disputes but alas !

# Too much pampering of u'r sister is NO GOOD mamaji. Glad that u r giving once in a while proper gyan to u'r sis but most of the time u r jst spoiling her with u'r goody goody remarks . Recently during the APP launch by Dev , mamaji was praising Ishwari . Everyone very well knew that until Sonakshi re entered Dev's life recently , he was almost living aimlessly . So I felt the credit shud b given to Sona der , then mamaji can add Ishwari too. It's nt that I'm against giving credit to moms. I'v my mom n even I'm a mom . But that's wat I felt in that scene.

# Is hotel/restaurant manager job is such a low in India ? I'm afraid the Cvs r nt referring to the poor waiters n cleaning boys in this context . Every job has it's own dignity if it's high paid or less paid. If a person like Vicky is appointed as even a waiter , that wud b a disgrace to the whole waiters category , IMO.

# Which school allows every x, y , z or even parents to hang around the premises during working/ non- working hrs ? Then playing aankh micholi..Seriously ??

# I support Dev . Wat he did was absolutely right since the person involved was Vicky ( he shud 've given such things earlier too but better late than never ) but the place he chose went wrong, esp in the school, in front of his daughter Suhana n Golu. Btw, Vicky got courier slap n bhabhi slap too but that went unnoticed .

# Elena.. u r simply Selfish . Wat more can I say ? She was referring the past few days happenings in IN as wrong.. Really ?? Ohh come onn elenaa...u'r goddaammnnn husband already wrecked IN in the past n he was trying to do the same again. Too delusional !!

# Ishwari.. Wen Dev was really @ fault, u didn even lift a finger but good to c that u r reminiscing those past which caused the total breakage of u'r raaja beta n the utter distruction of u'r God maata image , wen he got separated from his luv. " Mera beta AAJ galat hai ...kya matlab hai iska ? He had done mistakes in the past too. Ishwari cud pointed out that now also bcoz wat he did today was nt a big crime but wat he had done in the past like unintentional slap of baba etc was some serious mistakes .

# Watz wrong with the CVs ? Too much highs n lows for the characters. I think , the main writer is getting sleepless nights bcoz of the arrival of his bundle of joy. Take some rest yaar, tande dimag se pen chalao.. Jst kidding ! But sometimes feeling like total disconnection but yeahh they can bring the old charm bak to our show n I'm waiting for that . ( Can't blame the Cvs too..bcoz they already mentioned that these characters r hard to change , somewat impossible n with flaws )

# Sympathetic pregnancy symptoms !! Do chk for food poisoning since both baba n dada feeling nauseated otherwise v'll force to hav some sympathy for the Boses after the impending hospital traumas

# Seedhi saadhi GKB ...rulayegaa viwers ko bhi but I preferred a grey shaded GKB ...kya karu ? aadat se majbur ! Good to c mamaji supporting his wife . Btw, wat was that.. Mamiji pointing fingers @ Dev ..tu galat hai , beta .. Kyun nahii ? Galat aur sahi Mamiji ke alawa aur kaun bata sakti hai ? I'm waiting for the day wen all wrong doings of Mamiji comes out .

# Watz wrong with Elena ? Y she took the kids to c Vicky ?...Then she scooted from der leaving bache with Vicky hmm gotcha ! TRP drama.. actually this TRP is the tolerance rate of the people. This scene reminded me of the unnecessary machli n subsequent kitchen drama during Devakshi shaadi . Uff !! Show must go on...

# Soha n Golu .. they need serious attention n care . it's nt like buying them toys or ice creams but spending time with them , listening to them & thus learning things with them .

# Last but nt least, Dev n Sonakshi.. fighting, romancing, dancing..watever they do , I jst luv them watching together.

Originally posted by: havima

Payal if vickky is manipulating kid's psyche to turn thm against dev and enter IN... it will definitely be a blow below the belt. The man is literally fighting fir his family nd no one can see him standing up for thm. Should a giver be always a giver?.

If vikky come bk nd ends up playing high stake games where will all these mahaans go.. maybe thy will again blame dev for pushing vikky to play dirty games. Its literally tiring to see dev being made scapegoat for all situations nd actions.

Rewatching today's episode reminded me the episode where Dev is in Bose house for the weekly arrangement, Ishwari comes with food, Bijoy makes a remark, Dev sends away Ishwari and Golu, then he is shown to lift his hand like he is going to slap Bijoy, but is then shown to apologize. In that episode he ends up questioning Asha about Bijoy which Sonakshi overhears and tries to confront Dev. But Asha intervenes and talks about how Bijoy too was an angry person and how it took a long time for him to change. Asha also says that they worked together for their relationship so that it didn't affect the kids.

I think that is what Ishwari meant when she said you were wrong today to Dev. She knows how Suhana looks towards him, that she thinks he is super man and the greatest papa in the world. Ishwari wants Suhana to always have that image of him, not that of a monster who hurts innocent people. And that is exactly what Ishwari don't want Suhana to think. She wants Dev to always be the super man that Suhana thinks he is.

Even in today's episode, Golu's words to Vickky on knowing that he works in that restaurant was ask Dev sorry and join the office again. This is due to what he has seen till date. He has always seen his father make mistakes, Dev scolding, his father apologizing and Dev forgiving. He is not able to understand why this didn't happen this time. Same thing with Elena. When she came to know the truth, she did want Dev to know the truth. She expected Dev to act just like she told Vickky, "bhai do tappad lagayenge, phir maaf kardenge". Since Dev did nothing of that sort she is also surprised. She really did think that Vickky would be allowed to come back easily. But seeing what Dev did today and then not saying he was wrong has bruised her ego. She is doing this assuming that Dev just like how he got his sisters back, will get them back too. She is also depending on Dev's love for Golu -- tum toh jaante ho na me Dev bhai Golu keliye kuch bhi karsakte hain". And I feel that is what Vickky is thinking too. But to make doubly sure he is including Suhana to his side.

It is very interesting crossroad that Dev is in right now. Bringing back Vickky is like bringing back a poisonous snake home. But then how are they going to tell the kids that what they want is not going to happen, especially Suhana. She has seen her father give in to her every wish. what will he do. My hope is that they tell the kids at least some part of the truth. So that the kids can understand right from wrong. And that there are consequences for wrongdoing.

I would reserve my sympathy with Vicky because I haven't concluded whether Vicky has changed for the better. His inherent nature is to be vindictive so there is a possibility that he is manipulating the kids (incl Golu) to re-enter Dixit mansion. Dev is probably worried on that account and reacted strongly, though slapping him, even in front of kids is not done. Vicky can also return to Dixit home and then take revenge for this slap. My sympathies are with Golu. He is at an age where he doesn't understand the reason his father is away from home. He feels just an apology to Bihcha would resolve everything!! 😊 Its likely that he would influence Soha to in turn influence Dev to allow Vicky to return home.

Elena's reaction was quite laughable. Considering the fact that she told Dev about his past deeds which eventually led to his ouster from home, I was surprised at her reaction. What if Dev had slapped Vicky then? Would she have reacted in similar fashion? The soft link is Golu here. She wants to keep him out of all Vicky's destructive behaviour. So if Vicky has changed, it's a good sign. If he comes back to Ishwari Niwas, both XGKB and Vicky can go back to their old ways!! XGKB was right that if Dev could be forgiven for ignoring his family and viewers have witnessed how Ishwari also got away scot-free, then Vicky can be given another chance.

Interesting episodes ahead.



-Rekha

@aarcha, thank you for the best definition of TRP I have read so far. Now the whole system makes sense. It was an enigma for me. 🤣

Originally posted by: gmgi

@aarcha, thank you for the best definition of TRP I have read so far. Now the whole system makes sense. It was an enigma for me. 🤣

Originally posted by: Shaavi

When maami was first introduced in the show, she called herself Radha Rani. After burning her house and moving to IN, she called herself GKB. After the leap, she now refers to herself as Ex-GKB. This shows how her mind has changed and is so warped in itself. Just like how Ishwari's insecurity took on a life of its own and consumed her identity, GKB's greed and that blind love for wanting her son in a place same as Dev has consumed her. She has now reached a stage where she is not able to realize who she is. That she is Baldev Tripati's wife, not a Dixit. No matter how much she feels entitled to Dev's riches, she doesn't really have any stakes in it. She cannot demand anything.

When she talks to maamaji regarding Vickky being a restaurant manager, she does it with a bowed head. As though Vickky has done something shameful. Even Vickky felt that he was doing something shameful by working as the manager. Maami did not feel that shame when Vickky did all those other things including stealing from office. She justified his actions by saying that they are entitled by the ehsaan's they had previously done. So from her perspective whatever Dev has, they have a part in it too. But the truth is no one can claim a stake on his property and wealth except Sonakshi and Suhana. Even with the prenup, Ishwari couldn't really retain any wealth for herself and her daughters if Dev decided to give it away. It is Dev's goodness that he shares his hard earned everything with them.

In season 1, when Dev comes back after the rehiring of Sonakshi who left due to maami's manipulation, maami tries to say that he shouldn't have done that. At that time, maamaji comes there and apologizes on her behalf. He tells that "pati patni ka paapon ka issedaar hai. And he tells maami "paraaya ghar mein itna haq math jathao to maami. Both Dev and Ishwari tell maamaji that they are not "paraya and that this house was theirs as much as it was theirs. There is a similar understanding given to maami when she is caught red handed by Sonakshi trying to steal from Ishwari's night stand. Then too Dev tells that she was the elder of the house and had the right to take money from anywhere from the house. GKB believes this to be true. She feels entitled for something that is not really hers. She is not seeing that as the goodness of Dev and Ishwari and now Sonakshi's. From her pov, she has come to believe that they have complete right on both IN and Dev's property.

When Vickky's truth came to light all of them thought that Dev would forgive him like usual. This was the expectation if not by all at least by Vickky and maami. Now that they are seeing that Dev is still angry and that he doesn't want Vickky anywhere near, they are not able to digest it. They are still seeing Vickky as the "chota bhai. From my experience, usually the elder siblings are expected to take responsibility of the younger siblings. But the parents forget that these younger siblings grow up. That the elder sibling cannot take responsibility of everything the younger sibling does. In tha episode when Dev reveals Vickky's doings, the first thing maami tells him is that Vickky was his "chota bhai. For her, her son is not a "grown up man, he is still a "child. When maami tried to induce maamaji to talk to Dev to get Vickky back, maamaji tells her, he is not a small child anymore. Let him walk by himself. But maami is not ready to. She is exactly like Ishwari for whom Dev was still her 8 year child even when he was all grown up. Only recently did Ishwari agree that her son is a grown up now. Maami is on that path.

But it is not an easy path. She still doesn't realize the enormity of the ramifications of Vickky's actions because the one who suffered from this the most is Dev. Only when the complete picture of Dev's pain and Vickky's wrongdoings come to light is when she will realize. Duryodhana had to die for Dritharastra to admit that his son made terrible mistakes. Similarly something big needs to happen to jolt GKB to reality. She also needs to stop seeing Vickky as just Dev's brother. She needs to start looking at him as he, himself, independent of Dev and the Dixits. And my guess is Vickky is the one who is going to give her that jolt, by refusing to come back to IN. Only when she stops wearing those fancy sarees and heavy jewelry will she realize who she is. When she embraces and goes back to being "just maami Radha Rani is when she will begin her realization and redemption.

I think this track is for the separation of the Dixits from Tripatis. So that they can go back to being 2 families which is what they actually are. For the Tripati's to accept each other as they are. Not as they want them to be. For maami to realize that the "value of a home is not counted by how many luxuries and comforts it has, but by the love and care by the members of the family. That greed is not a good thing.

P.S: I somehow feel that Vickky hasn't really changed. I mean if he had he would not feel ashamed of his position as manager. He would be proud of himself that he is doing the right thing. But the fact that he feels ashamed of that job shows that he still feels that he is the victim and has not really done a horrible thing. That Dev should have forgiven him like before. That he doesn't deserve the punishment given to him.