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Posted: 8 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

As much as I know if Sona interferes in his work Dev will welcome her. He has high regard for her and allow her to have her way with even his affairs. He became ready to offer her support when she took decisions in Khatri issue .

By the way he never wanted Sona to stop working.


If my memory serves me right he had clearly told her to stay out of his matters when the question of giving Vikky a post in his office had come up. Showing support for work but interfering in this manner is worse than telling her on her face to stop working.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

You are welcome to disagree with my post.I know how difficult it is to understand Dev's point of view for those who stand on the other side and talk about understanding both . Atleast I am straight away admitting where I stand.

If you really are neutral you won't say what you said above and disagree.

And I am not talking about one random morning when Dev had the good fortune of seeing her shower a little quantity of her grace in the form of love.


Lol I can understand Dev's pov but cant understand yours 😉 I am just highlighting that the basic example u have given holds true for either of them.

Yes its easier for me to understand Sona's pov..but that doesnt mean I ignore Dev's. Dev is not too complicated to be understood specially in S2 when Dev is like an open book n voices all his emotions. I might not agree with some of his actions (just like there are things abt Sona that bothers me) but its really not at all difficult to understand his pov.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: dlavanya

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If I remember it correctly... sona did not twist Dev's arm or had him at gun point and asked him to get the sisters back. She only put forward her honest efforts.. who is she to do it? She is his wife and she can definitely suggest things that are good for family with out forcing them and by using proper arguments and sensible talks.. that's exactly what she did...

Regarding not following what one preaches - this is a big problem of both mom and daughter (asha and sona). But dont think this is applicable to this particular situation (though there are many where this happened).

Sona did not agree to stay at home . Dev just announced what he wanted and left inthe morning. He is invading her little personal space and making decisions (every individual has this tiny bit of personal spacethat the spouse should respect).

Now taking responsibility for decisions... clearly she did take responsibility in this situation. She explained the reason for delay - traffic and also apologized to soha that she could not be there at the school .. so i dont know why you say she is blaming something or someone else for this. What else do u expect her to do?



Sonakshi has still not taken responsibility for Dev's name being called n Soha's birth certificate as her father. She also got Dev to sign a legal document where it said that he doesn't have any rights on Soha. Then with what right is she expecting Dev to share Soha's responsibility. When she brought Soha from school since the later complained of tummy ache, she didn't bother to inform Dev. But expected Dev to let her know that he brought Soha home. I didn't hear her say sorry for both the times. Just blamed others and failed to take any responsibility. And that is Sonakshi's biggest flaw, the one where she doesn't take the blame of negative consequences. Until she corrects her mistake and admits that she is the one responsible for Dev not being part of Soha's life for 7 years, add his name to the birth certificate, she has no right to expect equality from Dev. She has to take more responsibility of Soha and she should be there for her when ever Soha needs her.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sorry to say but all the arguments you made seem one sided. Why are we digging past ?

Yes sona did not mention devs name in birth certificate because she didnt want to.. it is her (moms) right to decide if she wants to disclose fathers name or not.. given the circumstances under which they got separated

We all know why sona got him to sign the contract..it is just to protect dev and soha from iahwaris tantrums ... she never stopped dev exercising his right on soha once all things settled down..

So, i will ask you a counter question.. if dev is not responsible for soha due to above two issues .. then why is he making a big deal now. Soha is sonakshis daughter and she will care for her and he doesnt have to worry about it. If he is excercisinv rights then the rights come with responsibilities too.

Also your comparison of stomach ache incident with this is inappropriate. In the previous case, dev did not know .. sona just went and brought kids home. No big deal. Inthis case, dev knows that sona is coming to school and is stuck in traffic and will eventually come there. But he intentionally did not inform her just to cause that extra trouble ... what wiuld u say about that? He intentionally cause anxiety ..

She is not responsible for missed 7 yrs. dev never tracked them down which is again very stranger for a stalker to not do... who claims he cant live without her..sonakshi atleast tried half heartedly it may be but did dev ever try?

Lastly, soha is responsibility of both dev and sona and bose and dixit family. As long as the parents can arrange for one responsible adult to reach the place it is fine. Me and my husband work almost 1.5 hr away from our home.so it is not alwys possible to pickup kids when the school calls - so we have made arrnagements for a friend or relative to pickup an do the needful by the time we get to the school. It doesnt mean that we are irresponsible. It just means we have built a support system incase of emergencies - which hardly occur... in this case, dixit and bose family members are there and i am sure that is how sona took care of soha all these years... it is a personal/ family choice and it can differ from person to person.

So like you said, if birth certificate is needed to take care of and show responsibility then dev should ask for it . I see it as a trivial issue atthia point. A piece of paper should not stop a father from taking the responsibility of his kid - that is absurd. If he thinks it is not his kid then ask for paternity test and ask sona to add in birth certificate and end it there
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Posted: 8 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: dlavanya

@shaavi
Sorry to say but all the arguments you made seem one sided. Why are we digging past ?

Yes sona did not mention devs name in birth certificate because she didnt want to.. it is her (moms) right to decide if she wants to disclose fathers name or not.. given the circumstances under which they got separated

We all know why sona got him to sign the contract..it is just to protect dev and soha from iahwaris tantrums ... she never stopped dev exercising his right on soha once all things settled down..

So, i will ask you a counter question.. if dev is not responsible for soha due to above two issues .. then why is he making a big deal now. Soha is sonakshis daughter and she will care for her and he doesnt have to worry about it. If he is excercisinv rights then the rights come with responsibilities too.

Also your comparison of stomach ache incident with this is inappropriate. In the previous case, dev did not know .. sona just went and brought kids home. No big deal. Inthis case, dev knows that sona is coming to school and is stuck in traffic and will eventually come there. But he intentionally did not inform her just to cause that extra trouble ... what wiuld u say about that? He intentionally cause anxiety ..

She is not responsible for missed 7 yrs. dev never tracked them down which is again very stranger for a stalker to not do... who claims he cant live without her..sonakshi atleast tried half heartedly it may be but did dev ever try?

Lastly, soha is responsibility of both dev and sona and bose and dixit family. As long as the parents can arrange for one responsible adult to reach the place it is fine. Me and my husband work almost 1.5 hr away from our home.so it is not alwys possible to pickup kids when the school calls - so we have made arrnagements for a friend or relative to pickup an do the needful by the time we get to the school. It doesnt mean that we are irresponsible. It just means we have built a support system incase of emergencies - which hardly occur... in this case, dixit and bose family members are there and i am sure that is how sona took care of soha all these years... it is a personal/ family choice and it can differ from person to person.

So like you said, if birth certificate is needed to take care of and show responsibility then dev should ask for it . I see it as a trivial issue atthia point. A piece of paper should not stop a father from taking the responsibility of his kid - that is absurd. If he thinks it is not his kid then ask for paternity test and ask sona to add in birth certificate and end it there

The crux here is that Dev has a right to care about Soha's well being irrespective of who has greater rights on her. Just as Dev could call out Vicky for breaking Golu's FD, Dev has every right to call out Sona for not being there for Soha in an appropriate way. In the deal that they made, Sona asked for and received the privilege from Dev to decide for Soha under the premise that Sona would always do what's best for Soha. When, from his perspective, Sona is not upholding her end of the bargain, Dev has a right to question those terms and I think that's what we are seeing here.

But in contrast Sona doesn't have the right to expect Dev to shoulder EQUAL responsibility when the deal that they had made had not afforded him equal rights as her. She is the one who made those terms. It certainly wasn't Dev who did that. The problem is Sona can't have it both ways. If Soha has a tummy upset and she doesn't think Dev has a right to know just because she is upset with him on a personal level, then she has to remember that she does have a greater responsibility be there for Soha. Because according to Sona, Dev's presence in Soha's life is expendable.

I think what we are seeing here is finally Dev realizing that he can't let Sona always dictate the terms because they are skewed towards Sona's personal desires and NOT always coexistent with everyone's well being as she likes to imagine.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Lavanya, Adding to what Mallika has written, I see Sonakshi becoming the same as Ishwari who had double standards for everything. If Ishwari did that to maintain her "goddess" status, here Sonakshi is doing it to keep the facade of her perfection. She wants to be called the best in everything without really being good in everything. Now that Dev is questioning that pedestal just like he previously did with Ishwari, she is behaving very much like Ishwari and doing everything to cover up her flaws.

Best example is the episode where she first calls Dev to tell him about Ronita's pregnancy and then goes there. She expects that Dev should pick up her call as soon as she made it. But doesn't really think it is important to do the same when he calls her. Why didn't she think that Dev might be in a meeting and not get upset when he didn't pick up the call. If she was so right, then she could have easily texted him and given him the good news. But she chose not to do so. She called him back only after Ishwari had called her using his phone. Fine she was angry on Dev so didn't tell him where she is going, but she didn't even think that letting Ishwari know was important. How right is it to expect that everyone should give her importance when she is not ready to reciprocate the same. Sonakshi doesn't play fair but expects others to play fair. She needs to come clean and realize that she is as flawed as Dev and that she is not doing right by him. That she is being very unfair towards him.

Going by the example of Soha's tummy ache to accident, if it was no big deal that Sonakshi didn't tell him, then there was no need for Dev to call her and tell her about the accident. Why should Dev take the trouble to acknowledge that she is Soha's mother and needs to know about something bad that has happened to their kid, when she doesn't think the same. The only reason he called was thinking that Sonakshi was at home hence was closer to Soha. But as soon as he got to know it was not the case, he went ahead and fulfilled his duty, but also called out on her lack of it. A husband and wife are a team. Both are equally responsible to keep the team. Before asking Dev to be anything in that team, Sonakshi needs to take a long look at herself and judge each of her role in that team and assess her rank. On a scale of1 - 10, where 10 being the highest in being committed to the team, Sonakshi is a zero or maybe 1, which is leading Dev to pick up slack making him go extreme and be 11. Before judging someone else, Sonakshi needs to start introspecting herself.
Edited by Shaavi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Well, just chiming in with my thoughts here. I can't say who is right or who is wrong but it is interesting that when we as fans are trying to understand the POVs of the protagonists and Justifying their actions, the people who should actually be understanding each other's POV should be Dev & Sonakshi which is not happening right now, credit to the makers for keeping the fans busy on a weekend 😆
I guess the biggest complaint that supporters of Dev have with Sonakshi is that while she understands every other character's POV she seems or rather acts clueless when it comes to understanding Dev's POV and berates him for every action of his without understanding his thought process.
And as far as supporters of Sonakshi are concerned their biggest complaint with Dev is that he is just acting paranoid & possessive without making efforts to make Sonakshi understand his fears and instead questioning her love for him and also her responsibility as a mother when for past 7 years she alone has taken care of Suhana.
I guess the main problem for both is that they have taken each other for granted and expect the other to understand their action/decision without any question. They had decided to work as a team but right now they are doing anything but that.

Just trying to add a neutral voice & my POV, no offence.
Edited by sp12 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Shaavi Mallika



Spot on and perfect .you both nailed it.awesome points.








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Posted: 8 years ago
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There are certain unsaid rules which we need to keep in our mind while watching this show. It's an Indian daily soap, so as per it's norms FL can never be wrong. Even if she commits some mistakes (as per certain set of viewers think), we will make the ML commit more mistakes if not possible then at least project his mistakes through magnifying glass so that viewers can actually forget her mistakes and sympathize with their FL at the end for her struggles. For example, if we consider their farm house breakup, it's sona's decision because she believed Vikki over dev but they can't show their FL as wrong so let's make dev utter what ever the crap comes to his mouth, it doesn't matter whether he acted exactly opposite to this previously or not. Now people can actually forget all her contribution in this breakup and her misunderstandings about her husband and can only sympathize with her and support her decision.

If you feel this above example as old then let me provide you the latest one, she will sneak into others rooms to gather whatever the information she wants, she interfere in to others life and decides what's good for them as per her understanding, she leaves house without even informing others at night, she doesn't even feel guilty for her misbehavior or misunderstandings about her husband. Let's make dev act crazy, unreasonable and over protective so that all her mistakes like irresponsibility, insensitivity, interference on her own terms can be pushed under the carpet and people can debate on women empowerment and women rights with their endless theories.

If dev thinks that Sona is his life then it's his problem because for sona, dev is a part of her life. She will live her life on her terms and also decide the limits for her partner as per her rules. At the max, he will argue with her but at the end he will be the one who will surrender. So don't break your head in analysis. Whether dev can live his life without sona or not, Sona learnt to live her life without dev and she can do the same further also. Accept this truth and watch her hypocrisy I mean her mahaantha with smile and if possible clap. 😊
Edited by LiveLife321 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Latha 😆
Superb analysis.

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