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Posted: 8 years ago
Imo
another separation will be very hard on the viewers
Though @shaavi's take on it seems going perfectly with the flow. Sonakshi has to experience genuine feelings which she is probably not now. She has become numb coz she loved him too much and he did not fulfill her expectations

. What else can shake Sonakshi except indifference from Dev which may come bcoz she asks for freedom
It's sad to see her disregarding someone's sincere affection for her. She was soo much in love in S1
AS for Dev, you should not love anyone do much that u r not able do any work or the other person feels suffocated
Edited by tellyjo - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Just a quick note to say I am out and about. Had a quick read and absolutely loving the discussions.
@astrix- totally with you👏


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Posted: 8 years ago

@sam, @Shaavi, @Astrix, @sjain and @Lakshmi - wonderful, crisp and clear analysis - Always.

Enjoy reading your posts. You present in such a way that they are very easy to grasp your views. Whether I agree or disagree, definitely love and learn a lot from them!!!!

Thanks for posting and sharing your views!!!

Ji 😃😃😃

Edited by GKaPyar - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: aaliah3108

Hey guys. Visiting this place after so long.

DEV : tumhari jeet mei hi merii jeet hai.

Sona : tumhe khao ye cake Kyunki ye tumhara cake hai, tumhari jeet hai.
I am clapping... Ok sona...

School calling Dev :: Dev calls Sona first thing.

School calling Sona :: doesn't bother even informing Dev about Soha.

The above two scenarios are the most striking ones I have seen and it all defines where Devakshi are in their relation.

Sona is still not taking them as a unit while Dev wants it as a unit. I have nothing more to say because I'm ideally not able to relate to anything sona says or does these days because for some reason, it has once again become about me me me, my identity... Why is there an identity crisis in her life always.?
She is an established business woman isn't it, I understand there is need for growth but is there some crisis going on for her to be so ballistic. Till the time sona actually considers them to be a unit nothing will go well between them and I still do not see any positive reaction from her.

Why is this thought coming into her that Soha may potentially look up to Dev as her role model and not her. She said I have not reached where you are... Is she competing with him!!!! Signs of unhealthy relationship once again. I hope not.

Aren't children going to look at their parents as mom and dad and not how they r professionally successful.
So those women who are at
home, are they eligible to be role models for their kids at all!??

On a side note I would love to see Dev running his business from home and Sona is free to go in pursuit of her Identity which I see no one being under threat.

It shall be interesting to watch. I also wish Dev could just stop what he is doing coz tat also is not going anywhere.

I'm actually not willing to give any benefit of doubt to Sona until she realises that being in marriage is working as a unit and not individually.
She didn't share her thots with him earlier, doesn't do it even now. That makes him inquisitive about her

I.am very clear in my thoughts here so let's see how they take it further. I don't know what the cvs r trying to show here but it's not coming out as a positive approach. A family can also be very very happy even if both parents are not equally successful and it can be mom dad either way.
Have a good day guys.

This! 👏👏 I agree with every word.

Sona is making this about an identity crisis which is fundamentally what its not about. Paradoxically it makes her selfish and NOT a good role model for Soha. Like you said women who are stay at home moms can be just as equal role models. If anything Sona just being a nutritionist is just as good of a role model as anything Dev has done. Why does she "need" to be on the same financial level as Dev? The problem is she has made this into a competition instead of two people doing what they love and being successful at it (in their own ways).


The problem with Sona's mentality is that she thinks she has a greater right to Soha. She demonstrated that when she hid Soha from Dev, when she made him sign that custody agreement, and again when she didn't call Dev over Soha's tummy upset because of him putting a tracking app on her phone. But then she can't run away from the fact that rights come with responsibilities. She has to accept responsibility for being there for Soha far more than Dev. In the Jatin track she presented it as such way that Soha doesn't "need" Dev.. but then that has implications on how Dev thinks about his relationship with Soha. If she thinks Dev has an equal responsibility towards Soha then she also has to acknowledge that he has equal rights over her. Like you said Sona needs to realize that being married is being part of a team.


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: asha2012

I read some really scathing posts against her and felt the need to say something at least.

Anyway coming to the point what irks me most about people generally on IF is that people (especially Dev's gang) feel that Sona should drop everything now and dance to Dev's wishes.


From a mod perspective, a quick reminder that the above parts of your post break the following rule of the thread, especially the part in bold:

4. BASHING OR PERSONAL INSULTS OF OTHER MEMBERS

This means we accept other people's viewpoints with respect, and don't call them names for not agreeing with us. Either we continue the argument calmly, supported by examples from the show, or we respectfully agree to disagree and leave that discussion alone.

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Posted: 8 years ago
Wow! Amazing writing everyone, enjoyed reading everyone's POV.

I have given up attempting to understand Sona. She was such a relatable character, but now writers have really messed up with her character. Really hoping its leading to something and somewhere.

She was showing her genuine emotion when she said to Mami that "its only Soha who matters to me now" and again when Dev appreciated her role as a mother , 'she switched and spoke about women empowerment'. I am in no way supporting Dev's behaviour but his behaviour is 'cry for help', 'not stand against him'. I hope like everyone has analysed here, Sonakshi is struggling from 'identity crisis'. Most of the woman probably faces 'identity crisis' after wedding. And Sonakshi is a woman who wants it all and believes she can have it all. She wants to be 'ideal problem solving bahu', 'loving and responsible mom', 'successful businesswoman' and 'yeah loving and caring wife'. She should accept the fact that its difficult to balance it all, at times she needs to compromise. Even Dev would have to compromise with his work and family according to circumstances. If Soha is unwell, they need to get 'time-off' from work. Sona needs to share burden with dev, and like everyone has pointed out is that they need to act an unit.

My problem with Sona is she is taking everything as normal/casual. She is defying 'law of physics that every action has equal and opposite reaction'. She was nearly attacked by goons, she starts working from next day (first I hoped it was her coping mechanism or she allowed her emotion to take back seat because she witnessed Dev's reaction. I was soo wrong). Dev is saying and showing extreme reactions immediately after 'the incident' and Sona is clueless (Sherlock Sona disappeared when she was most needed). House eviction truth came out, she didn't even showed ounce of emotion in front of person who was blamed for the deed for 7 years, her focus was how to keep harmony in the family. Found out Vickky was trying to destroy Dev again, but wanted to make Dev understand her POV. Now soha is not well instead this husband and wife fighting about work and woman empowerment.
I really hope makers are doing this on purpose and intending to address this issue in future. If they don't bother about this issue then it will disappoint many fans.

I know sona is not a mental health professional to understand Dev's deep rooted fear and childhood trauma. But she can analyse his behaviours right? How come the man who supported everything she did wants to now control everything? Why he is all of a sudden acting possessive? I got expert advice from 'Ma', what does that mean? What changed? How can I communicate with the person who is not understanding my POV? Is showing him my POV is the only option or Am I missing something?

How I see present circumstances:

5 year old saying to his mummy. 'Mom i am scared that you'll leave me. Mom I want you to stay in this room with me all day or else I will feel that you'll leave me'
Mom: My love for you is the same. I might have to go to work sometime depending on circumstances.

17 year old girl: 'Dad I have to go to a field project for my study. I have to do it for my study this is important to collect necessary data for the research'
Dad: ' you've always been a good student I am proud of you but you do your research at home. I will make sure you have all the equipment you need. Right now I just want you in front of my eyes'

For me 5 years old comfort take priority over 17 year old issue with making her dad realise that going out is necessary.
Again not saying what Sona is facing is fair, especially for a woman who has struggled for 7 years without husband looking after her. However, need of the hour is to address Dev's fear not challenge. Otherwise, it will destroy Dev, DevaKshi and Soha.

I always believe that if someone fell and crying in pain, you don't have to point out their mistakes. You don't have to say you have to 'bit more careful', 'avoid this shoes', 'avoids this path' etc. First be emphatic and soothe them, don't let go of the opportunity to make the person see that you are there for them. And yes afterwards, tell them that they have to be extra careful and keep themselves safe.

I hope I make sense.
Just my POV.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse


From a mod perspective, a quick reminder that the above parts of your post break the following rule of the thread, especially the part in bold:

4. BASHING OR PERSONAL INSULTS OF OTHER MEMBERS

This means we accept other people's viewpoints with respect, and don't call them names for not agreeing with us. Either we continue the argument calmly, supported by examples from the show, or we respectfully agree to disagree and leave that discussion alone.

Additionally, if you notice something being discussed on another thread in the forum that you would like to get a perspective on here, please link it in your post and let the other Thread Maker know. This allows for them to come and discuss here if they like and makes us all good neighbours.

As you know, we try to refrain from discussing other members in a general capacity or summarising their arguments on the thread. If you would like to point out or link a specific post (with the authours consent), please feel free to do so. Otherwise, I request that you edit these parts of your post.

Thanks!

- Sam and DQ


Dear Sam and DQ

Sorry I didn't mean to offend anyone - I was just very upset with the way Sona's character in the show is being bashed by everyone - I did not mean to offend anyone personally.

I have also removed the said lines from my post

Regards
Asha
Edited by asha2012 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
In India, there are 2 epics which are considered as god's commandments. Which tells us how we are supposed to live. Which are holy to us. They are Ramayana and Mahabharata. While Ramayana emphasized on dharma(morality), Mahabharata gave importance to karma(values and duty).

In Ramayana Rama sent Sita based on the words of a dhobhi who pointed fingers at her virtue. He chose to believe an outsider against his own family, his wife in the name of protecting dharma. Sonakshi is very much influenced by this. She is like Rama and went with Vickky said as the truth. In Mahabharata, Arjuna fought against people who were his own family for for the sake of what they called their own in the name of karma. And Krishna endorsed what Arjuna did as the right thing to do through Bhagavadgita. Dev threw Vickky out as he harmed whom he called family.

So who is right, Rama or Krishna as both are worshipped as gods. But the interesting thing is there is Rama and Sita statue along with Shiva's in IN, while Bijoy was shown lighting diya in front of Krishna. I am really liking this interesting concept that they are showing.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Shaavi


Mahabharat happened in Dwaparyug yug which is just prior to Kaliyug,our yug. So Krishna's teachings are much relavent and applicable for us.

We almost have answers to our confusions and questions in Gita since Arjun is a representative of humanity whereas Krishna stands for divinity.

What Dev did to Vicky is endorsed by Krishna. Vicky should be punished irrespective of his blood relation with Dixits.


Sonakshi actually has to applaud Dev for being upright in dealing with Vicky. Sona of season one definitely would have done so. But this Sona of present just throws me in confusion . What happened to original Sonakshi I wonder.

I still feel Dev just needs her time,attention and expression of love. He is craving for that and going to extremes. I wish both of them solve their issues without moving towards separation. So exhausted to see such thing happen again.




Lakshmi
Edited by ltelidevara - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Lakshmi, I totally agree that Mahabharata is the more relevant to us as it is has Gita in it. Even though both Ramayana and Mahabharata are significant for us, it is Gita that is used as the holy book for law purposes like giving a oath to a government official or to a witness/plaintiff in the court of law. In most of the temples I have been, I have never seen Rama's statue by himself. He is always accompanied by Sita, Lakshmana and Hanumaan. But most of the time Krishna's statue is of just himself although he had multiple wives. When it came to actually doing the duty of a husband, Krishna fulfilled it with each and every one of his wives while Rama couldn't with just one wife.

Rama didn't say I will discuss the decision of me leaving the kingdom and going to forest with my wife. He took an unilateral decision which his wife honored. It's true that he didn't say come to forest, but she being in love with him couldn't stay behind amid luxuries while he struggled in forest. In that sense Sita is considered as the ideal wife/spouse. But Rama is not called as the ideal husband, he is referred to as Maryada Purushottam. Conversely Krishna is not called a gentleman, but is considered as the ideal lover/partner. He is shown to lie, cheat, hide and even stretch the truth at times. Although he had so many loves, Radha is the only one who is mainly remembered along with Krishna.

I remember growing up reading, listening and watching the two series Ramayana and Mahabharata on TV. The usual comments is brothers should be like Rama and Lakshmana and not like Pandavas and Kauravas. Wives should be like Sita, but funny thing is neither Rama nor Krishna are idealized as the model of how a husband to be. Both of these gods are avatars of Vishnu who is the sustainer. The title of the perfect husband is given to Shiva who is considered as the destroyer.

Our traditions and belief systems are so complex that lot of things are lost in translation. Depending on what we see, hear, are taught and learn, we tend to grow our own ideology. And usually we are not ready to accept that there might be flaw in our understanding or maybe there is another interpretation of the same theories. And that is exactly what Dev and Sonakshi are depicting. Both have this mindset that their understanding is correct, but don't really spend much time paying attention to what the other is saying. They also assume their partners expectations without really asking or sharing what the other person wants.

As I have said before, for me duty comes before absolute morality. I go by Gita as I feel that it is god's way of saying don't try to become god, stay human. We gods are already there to take care of the final tally of your acts. All you humans responsible are of is doing your duty. Do it diligently, give your 100%, work hard with truthfulness and honesty. Never step back to do your duty. And I feel that is what makers are trying to show. The way Gita is applicable to real life in today's world.
Edited by Shaavi - 8 years ago

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