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Posted: 8 years ago
Hi friends
Hope all of u have been having a wonderful weekend!

I am loving this track for two reasons - one because it's a devakshi centric track and secondly these are fundamental differences between them which is being brought out. Dev and Sona never analysed these differences between them when they separated the first time nor before they got married.

Dev was always more emotional than Sona - I think the main reason for that was that he had to start thinking like an adult from the young age of 8 - that didn't give him much time to grow up emotionally properly - overnight he had to think like an adult. Sona, on the other hand was luckier because though she grew up in a typical middle class family where money was tight ( she never had to face extreme poverty) she had a happy childhood.

When Dev and Sona fell in love, Sona felt that she was not good enough for him, she was insecure of other girls like Natasha. But over a period of time Dev made her feel very secure in his love. Dev, on the other hand, had never been in a relationship where there were no expectations from him. So he gave it his all and he also worried, heart of hearts that his mother may not agree to his choice. But he started feeling the pressure when Sona pressurised him to reveal their relationship to their families.

When they broke up, on a rebound Sona decided to get engaged to Ritwik, a boy selected by her father. I think she knew she would never be ready for someone else and hence agreed so fast. The rest we know. And eventually Dev and Sona got married without ever resolving their underlying issues. In the Dixit household Sona soon realised that she was prob not so welcome and threw herself headlong to become an ideal babu as she felt that it was the only way to ishwaris heart. But then all the u fertility drama happened and the slap gate and then Dev and Sona separated, Sona was insecure and in my view Dev was equally insecure because he was sure that if she found out about her infertility issues she would not marry him even if it killed her because she knew how much he wanted children, with her. Dev knew she was stubborn and could prob survive but he knew he wouldn't be able to survive without her,

I am sure after that night at the farmhouse both were regretted their decisions - Dev asking her to go and Sona that she left. But we're stubborn enough not to call each other again. Dev and Sona are incomplete without each other and they both know that. That is the reason in the seven years they were apart they both did not move on - am sure that both would have ample opportunities had they decided to actually move on.

Anyways now that they are finally together, I think the way the cvs are now taking this story ahead is commenDable because finally they are addressing their fundamental differences. I think that's also the reason they are not shown to be physically intimate even though they share the same bed and are madly in love with each other - I believe that they are deeper in love than they were seven years back. Though currently Dev is angry at Sona for not being emotional or expressive enough he will soon realise this - see he also likes that fact that she is more practical than him. Remember that scene after Sona confessed her love for him she calls him in the night and tells him that they need to apologise to Nisha- he admits that he needs her in his life to do these things,

Sona would would also realise that it is ok to be practical but she also needs to be expressive after all, we all like to be told at all times by our better halves that they love us and cannot live without us. Sona expresses her deep love for him by her actions and Dev by his words and actions.

I also feel that this impasse between them will continue for sometime till the Thakkar/ Vicky theft is revealed and then something would happen to either Dev or Sona and only would this get resolved.till then they will not take their marriage to the next level. they love each other madly but all they need to do now is to find a middle path which I am sure they will... Eventually.

Sorry for making this long but I thought I should just pen down my thoughts.

Love
Asha



Edited by asha2012 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
I went on a bit of a KRPKAB binge yesterday, and I have come to the conclusion that the writers must watch old episodes at least as much as we viewers do, something I have seen very little evidence of on any other show that has run this long. I say this because the differences of opinion that Devakshi are having now, are visible literally from day one of their relationship.

If you can get past the romantic feels of that scene in Dev's room doorway (which is a task, I know!), you will hear them discuss the very same issues that are giving them such a hard time now. Dev asks Sona how she could hide her love from him, and when she says sorry, says that he'll forgive her on one condition -- that she tell him everything about herself; he wants to know her better than she knows herself. Sona then asks, why do you want to know all this stuff about the past? Shouldn't we be focusing on our future? BAM. Sam's mind = Blown. 😲😆

For Sona, life is about moving forward on a linear path; one step comes methodically after the other, and love is about who you choose to walk that path with. To her mind, an ideal partner is someone who makes your burden lighter and holds your hand as you move forward (very much like Asha and Bijoy). The past doesn't hold as much meaning for her because she is always focused on the next step foward. For Dev, on the other hand, life is more focused on the people in it, and love is all about forming a connection that transcends time through unadulterated access to the individual's inner thoughts. His doesn't put as much emphasis on the linearity of time, and sees the past as a defining the present of an individual. He wants to experience Sona's past because he wants to connect with her on a deeper level. To him, an ideal partner is someone with whom you can enjoy a transcendental connection that allows you to escape the day to day drudge through life.

And this brings me back to the point I've been making like a broken record. At their best, they balance each other out perfectly. Sona makes sure they are proactive in moving their forward, and Dev makes sure they stop and consider if they are leaving important feelings unresolved in the process. As we saw in our glimpses of the seven years they were apart, they can both live without each other but it's far from their best lives: Dev stagnates and dwells on the past, terrified to move, while Sona refuses to look back, all her focus on mechanically putting one foot in front of the other, terrified to stop. That is where their current impasse comes from. Dev is scared to move, and he is calling out to Sona to help him as she always does. Sona can hear him calling, but she is too scared of what could happen if she stops and turns around -- she has always needed Dev's (gentle to forceful) coercion to do that.

It really is like the story of the hare and the tortoise, a version where they are not racing but helping each other along. The tortoise doesn't feel like moving -- it's nice and safe in the shell -- but the hare's energy inspires him to walk forward slowly and enjoy the view outside. The hare rushes forward confidently, gets tired quickly, but feels ashamed to admit it. When the tortoise catches up, he forces her to rest for a while and enjoy where she's arrived at. Unfortunately, the last time the hare rushed ahead, and the tortoise caught up with her, he found her facing a wolf. He crawled right back into his shell and wants the hare to crawl in with him! Meanwhile, the hare wants to speed forward as fast as possible, away from the wolf. The tortoise thinks, if she isn't coming for me, clearly it doesn't matter if I am there or not, and the hare wonders, why is he staying put and pulling me back into that unpleasant moment when all I want to do is move away from it?
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Posted: 8 years ago
@ Sam thanks for everything you write.
My viewing, analysing, understanding, of KRPKAB will always remain incomplete without your fantastic writing...so please keep writing more often.
Thank you so much.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

I went on a bit of a KRPKAB binge yesterday, and I have come to the conclusion that the writers must watch old episodes at least as much as we viewers do, something I have seen very little evidence of on any other show that has run this long. I say this because the differences of opinion that Devakshi are having now, are visible literally from day one of their relationship.

If you can get past the romantic feels of that scene in Dev's room doorway (which is a task, I know!), you will hear them discuss the very same issues that are giving them such a hard time now. Dev asks Sona how she could hide her love from him, and when she says sorry, says that he'll forgive her on one condition -- that she tell him everything about herself; he wants to know her better than she knows herself. Sona then asks, why do you want to know all this stuff about the past? Shouldn't we be focusing on our future? BAM. Sam's mind = Blown. 😲😆

For Sona, life is about moving forward on a linear path; one step comes methodically after the other, and love is about who you choose to walk that path with. To her mind, an ideal partner is someone who makes your burden lighter and holds your hand as you move forward (very much like Asha and Bijoy). The past doesn't hold as much meaning for her because she is always focused on the next step foward. For Dev, on the other hand, life is more focused on the people in it, and love is all about forming a connection that transcends time through unadulterated access to the individual's inner thoughts. His doesn't put as much emphasis on the linearity of time, and sees the past as a defining the present of an individual. He wants to experience Sona's past because he wants to connect with her on a deeper level. To him, an ideal partner is someone with whom you can enjoy a transcendental connection that allows you to escape the day to day drudge through life.

And this brings me back to the point I've been making like a broken record. At their best, they balance each other out perfectly. Sona makes sure they are proactive in moving their forward, and Dev makes sure they stop and consider if they are leaving important feelings unresolved in the process. As we saw in our glimpses of the seven years they were apart, they can both live without each other but it's far from their best lives: Dev stagnates and dwells on the past, terrified to move, while Sona refuses to look back, all her focus on mechanically putting one foot in front of the other, terrified to stop. That is where their current impasse comes from. Dev is scared to move, and he is calling out to Sona to help him as she always does. Sona can hear him calling, but she is too scared of what could happen if she stops and turns around -- she has always needed Dev's (gentle to forceful) coercion to do that.

It really is like the story of the hare and the tortoise, a version where they are not racing but helping each other along. The tortoise doesn't feel like moving -- it's nice and safe in the shell -- but the hare's energy inspires him to walk forward slowly and enjoy the view outside. The hare rushes forward confidently, gets tired quickly, but feels ashamed to admit it. When the tortoise catches up, he forces her to rest for a while and enjoy where she's arrived at. Unfortunately, the last time the hare rushed ahead, and the tortoise caught up with her, he found her facing a wolf. He crawled right back into his shell and wants the hare to crawl in with him! Meanwhile, the hare wants to speed forward as fast as possible, away from the wolf. The tortoise thinks, if she isn't coming for me, clearly it doesn't matter if I am there or not, and the hare wonders, why is he staying put and pulling me back into that unpleasant moment when all I want to do is move away from it?


Wonderful post Sam.I joined the thread a couple of weeks back owing to the wonderful discussions here.Going through the previous threads I realised how good a writer you are.

@Bold-I am a bit confused there.I didn't get your point.Do you want to say that the writers watch the previous episodes regularly or do you imply that they do not do so.The part in bold sounds contradictory.

I hope I didn't offend you...just wanted to clarify my confusion.

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@FLW70: Thanks for the appreciation; it means a lot! 😊 I love this show and it makes me happy that I can pass that love along in some way.

@Jenny: Welcome to the thread! I am glad you are enjoying it here, and feel free to participate whenever the spirit moves you 😃

I am happy to clarify, no problem. I meant that, in my experience, when a show is 350+ episodes old, you don't normally find connections with epiosdes that took place over a year ago. When things run for that long, usually writers change and the new ones don't make reference to episodes written by the previous writers. That is not the case here. We regularly have references to the past, not just in literal flashbacks, but in the thematic questions of the show as well, and it gives a sense of cohesion to the whole story, as well as giving a sense of the cohesion in the production team. That is incredibly rare in this industry and this format, and it's the first time I am seeing something like this (touch wood!).

A lot of the questions we ask of the current episodes have answers buried deep in the foundational period of the show. Apart from them being great stand alone episodes in general, this thread that ties past to present makes it super rewarding to go back and watch those episodes for the relevant tidbits that continue to help understand the characters!
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Posted: 8 years ago
@sam
I just had to tell u that u write so well. I love the show and after reading ur analysis I always appreciate the nuances better. Thanks for writing ...

I wish there was a "love terribly" button instead of a "like" only on india forums.


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Posted: 8 years ago
@sam Beauitful post 👏
Actully I am loving this whole track. Ishu mata has described the things very perfectly that dev's love is just like flowing river. When the river was flowing peacefuly it was all good. But the moment dev feaces his worst fear come in to the picture his smooth flowing love becomes river which is having no restrictions. Unless and untill this overflow of emotations does not get sattled their is no point in saying any thing to dev. So at this point dev is thinking pointless as sona doesnot love him . He loves her more. So his fear is making him think like this he want that sona should express her fellings and prove her love . But I want to ask a question to dev if she proves her love by saving you from the danger and in the process to prove if she get hurt are you able to see this. So once again their will be overflow of emotations . At this point sona need to have a patience because I feel the moment she start thinking using heart dev's currunt behavior is going to hurt her. At this point this is my opnion she is using her brain with heart so she is understanding why dev is behavinh like that. The moment she will think or act like she is going to hurt. Yes I agree that she must express her love more openly but it will happen slowly as she was never much expressive about this and she had a complete different thinking process then dev. Very soon mrs.dixit will find the way to calm dev and dev will also understand that every thing is not with heart when it come to love. To whom you should love it must be your hearts decision but how to express it or how to love in this heart can take a help brain to balance the things.
The another point which took my attention is golu. Sorry but please don't kill me but for the first time i fell golu is also vickki's son. The way he say he is master in cheating in exam and the way he stops soha to tell this deatails to anyone I get the this feel. I just hope soha tell this detail to dev and sona so they can take the action on this and stop golu to choose the wrong path. Honestly I love golu thats why I am warried about him. Honestly even I don't understand the over excitement of bose family over ronita and dada's issue. Generally this details not get shared with family like this. I feel its a private matter of husband and wife.I am understand the how it is going to help the story.what do you think guyes.
Edited by timbarucha83 - 8 years ago
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Timba, this is in response to your last paragraph regarding Ronita and her pregnancy. This is not intended to hurt anyone or trivialize anything. It is just in reference to the series.

When Ishwari sent Dev and Sonakshi to Shimla or talked about wanting a grandchild, it was questioned as to how she could do that. Having a child was something that was "private" between a couple and they should be the one deciding it. I am purposely not mentioning her medical condition here. I am just saying that if Dev and Sonakshi had married without Dev knowing her condition like Saurabh and Ronita.

With Saurabh and Ronita too they went to the doctor before conceiving and decided to follow doctors orders. When they returned from their appointment found their parents having arranged a romantic night for them at home. Asha was shown ordering pregnancy test kit. On Friday's episode it was shown that Saurabh was making Ronita drink water, with Bijoy and Asha overseeing it. Ronita looked way to uncomfortable and the whole scene was weird. It ended with Ronita saying she is pregnant.

How is what Boses did any different than what Ishwari wanted. Didn't Bijoy and Asha go overboard with that romantic night. If Ishwari's act was called "mission baby Dixit", wasn't what Boses did "mission baby Bose". Are Boses not treating Ronita like a baby machine. How is what Ishwari did any different than what Boses did. Boses were as insensitive as Ishwari. I also found Saurabh very insensitive to Ronita's feelings. It was like she didn't have an option. What if Ronita came back after the test and said that she was not pregnant. The Boses would have been disappointed and blamed each other.

Now I wonder how true is Ronita's words regarding the result. If she is really pregnant. I mean when she came down, she found the Boses waiting eagerly for her answer. If Sonakshi wanted to give happiness to Ishwari, wouldn't Ronita feel the same, that she didn't have the heart to tell the truth seeing their expectant faces. I feel Ronita is feeling the pressure just like Sonakshi. The only difference is I find Dev supporting Sonakshi and saying she was more important than any children that she might bear and that too because of her medical condition. But Saurabh did not really give that kind of support. It was they have to have a child. The whole attitude of the Boses was that the child is more important than who Ronita is or what she might feel. Even Asha didn't really pay attention to Ronita's feelings just by the mere fact that she didn't stop Bijoy or Saurabh from going overboard.

This is my pov. Not intended to hurt anyone

Edited by Shaavi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
@ Shaavi


Thank god you posted this particular one reg.the insensitivity of the Boses. It was so distasteful to sit together and make Ronita tensed up and pressurised. Right from ordering the kit the whole sequences related to her pregnancy were handled in such a way that I felt so annoyed and embarrassed.

In what way they are different from Iswari? What gave them the privilege to do all that,the Bose surname? May be.

Whatever Dixits do will be magnified making a mountain out of a mole. But if Boses do so they deserve a group hug.. with Sonakshi.


Anyway you made my Sunday Shaavi by being upright,frank and right.Thanks dear.



Lakshmi


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Posted: 8 years ago
I found the whole sequence of Ron it's pregnancy quite weird and looks like the Cvs are purposely giving us a parallel to Sona's pregnancy. track. Ishus interference in that cannot be justified by drawing a parallel here. That went overboard and Dev too did some insensitive stuff there which can't be justified coz they r showing THE Bose fly do similar stuff
Discussion about having a child and planning one and fly trying to push the couples verbally is common in India. But deciding a resort including massage and food and dress to wear is too much interference
Sorry this is just my opinion and no intention to hurt any other opinion
I didn't like the Bose fly sequence either.. More so Bose fly had already learnt it through Sonakshi's case. So they aren't expected to be insensitive
Plus in this case saurabh n Ronita declared to the fly that they wanted a child and not the other way round
Edited by tellyjo - 8 years ago

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