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Posted: 8 years ago



I request all the fellow members here to go through my post " Please Sonakshi" in the main forum. If time permits let me know your views on it. Thank you.


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: aarcha

Grace , i'm answering hre ..

Dev for once at least would have indulged

So, revelation of Dev's this past & Vicky's cheatings may happen simultaneously and that's when Sona is going to realise & break down on how her one act of distrust had destroyed Dev & his family


Grace, y v r nt thinking bout wat caused this distrust ? V can't put the blame solely on sona. IMO, if v compare both the families, then dev's family caused more damage to their marriage than bose family . Sona had to face the wrath of ishwari, mamiji, vicky n neha in IN. Dev cudn support her always .( But dev only had to face bijoy , sometimes sona too ...in bose house.. season 2 ) 5 crores deal blew out of proportion & ended up in slapping baba. Dev tried to apologise but in vain. Had Dev stopped mamiji or wudn't hav affected by his maataji's emotional state, nothing wud've hapnd, everything wud b under control. Dev Dixit was capable of doing that but he cudn make that possible. Wen sona came to return the chq, ishwari told her to get separated from Dev. Without knowing wat really hapnd, dev had some arguments with sona & pushed her who accidentally made ishwari fall to the ground , eventually made dev shouting 'get out 'to sona. Sona went out ..wat else sona can do esp , in front of a group of hostile people. Then eviction , prenup emergence finally separation. Only the viewers knew prenup n eviction r manipulated by someone else , nt dev. But for the boses, all done by Dev. So i cudn buy this fact that sona's one act of distrust destroyed dev n his family. Actually it's Dev who himself destroyed everything by nt acting wisely wen needed. Had dev took a stand then , they wud've been living happily with an addition of one or more tiny Mr. Aubhodro or tiny Ms sonakshi . Life is all bout taking decisions @ the right time. Time n tide wait for none ...




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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ltelidevara




I request all the fellow members here to go through my post " Please Sonakshi" in the main forum. If time permits let me know your views on it. Thank you.


Lakshmi

Was about to post on this thread to say I really liked it! 👏
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Drcs

The entire forum is shocked over the "divorce issue. CVs have never said that they are divorced in fact there are many instances where it's been indicated they are estranged rather than legally divorced. This is the issue of the fandom, we presume certain things if they don't show as per our assumptions we create a havoc. Dev and Sona were calling each other as Exes, I would like to consider it as when 2 kids fight they consider the other person no more his friend but when they become "batti they are friends...In the same manner, when someone writes in favour of Sona they are Team Sona or against sona is Team Dev. In my last posts I have been looking at the story from sona's perspectives, so many labelled me as Team Sona...infact I received msgs from some who said you were a bigtime supporter of Dev what happened now? Comon' guys can't someone have soft corner for both characters, can't we love both of them equally, should we lose our objectivity to display our love for one character at the expense of other? Mmm very long rant... my response after reading from page 26...you know how quirky Iam, so read at your own risk😆

Apart from assumption its what cvs have shown so far. Yes they never used the word divorced but if they were never divorce how can they get married to someone else. Even during Dev- Nisha engagement nobody questioned about it so it was obvious that they were divorced. :/
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Posted: 8 years ago

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Honestly I Disagree with the part that is sona is responsible for the current state of the dixit house and the state of the curret relation state. For on time may be we can hold her responsible for the dev who has become who was just acting as a provider and not want to have any kind of connect with his family who was broken.<font color="#333333" face="Roboto, sans-serif">And the absence of the sisters in not only the outcome of the dev being lost but at the same time it is the out come of the way dixit family wasstructured. Three sisters where more connected to each other for riya and nikki neha was their mother. Neha by his own wish distroyed her marriage because of her zidd to leave a rich life and Ishu was more and more concern with dev and she fail to generate the bond between her and her Daugherty and her fear also never allowed dev to be the brother to her sisters in the real sence where they have a noraml relation Neha was always jelous and riya and nikki see dev as the man of the house and the provider who give them what they want .Dev had found himself when he meet soan so when soan goes from his life the lost himself and just want to be alone and stick to the role of being simply provider to the family.So in this Dev had a less fault then Ishu and mamji . That's why I feel.He donot want to get connected with any one as he feels he is afailure and he was not able to protect sona and his love. His mother has cheat him for the property and taken the signature of the document which was the final nail for the failour of the dev and sona' s relation. Honestly I don't hold sona responsible for the current state of the dixit family. In the same way I don't put dev responsible for the matter related to Bose House it was the complete Responsiblity of Bijoy . why Because he has given the power sona to make the dscision which can lead them to this. He was the on e who first trusted Vickki when he was angrey and blinded with his pride and ego.Theydon'ttrusted dev it was their fault. So I want sona shouldintrospecther self but first but not for the current state of the dixit family but for loosing 7preciousyears of life by not trusting dev and his love, for not having an open communication with dev, for trying tosolveevery problem by their own(Which I think she had understood). What Dixit family had faced or facing is the wheel of Krama. They get cheated by mami and vickki. Because Ishu mata hadbetrayed malati and she hide this fact from dev to secure her god image.Dev was no longer the same but if Ishu had able to generate theconnectwith her owndaughtersthen they still have acontactwith their mother.But at that point she fail because she was more concern with dev. So from my point of view it the Wheel Of karma. First Dev and Sonashouldfocuson their relation and avoid thepreviousmistakes which I am sure they will do.For above statement</font>"Kya Maine Dev ko aisi zindagi jeene ko majboor kiya? Kya meri Wajah se is parivaar ke saare sadasya bikhar gaye?" For bold part I agree she should have a focus but for second part I disagree. This is completely my view.



Well...I put myself in Sonakshi's shoes and realised that I would never have walked out. 😃

To take this debate further, Nikki staying in a hostel and refusing to come back home even after being cajoled by Ishwari was also disturbing! Nikki was a teenager aged 15 when Dev-Sonakshi got married. She always teased Sonakshi and felt she is the best addition to the family who would love Dev selflessly as Sonakshi was responsible for bringing out his best side (and smiles). What did she feel when Sonakshi left and Dev turned bitter? Who did she hold responsible? Did Nikki lose her faith in the institution of marriage? That would be a very interesting phase! I hope Creatives show that too. Neha and Rhea - I hope their lives post Dixit home exit are also shown here. I have downplayed Ishwari's statement that Dev took his daughters away from Ishwari because viewers have seen that Ishwari was always showering love to Dev. But, she was also keen to see her daughter's settled in life. Let's wait and see what's in store now.



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Posted: 8 years ago

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Was about to post on this thread to say I really liked it! 👏

Thank you DQ
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Posted: 8 years ago
Just to interject on Nikki's age... Dev was 8 when his father died. They did not show Ishwari was pregnant at the time so Nikki had to be atleast a few months old? Which means she was 8 years younger than Dev.. Dev was 29 at the break up so she was 21...
Unless the makers change the dates yet again!
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

Just to interject on Nikki's age... Dev was 8 when his father died. They did not show Ishwari was pregnant at the time so Nikki had to be atleast a few months old? Which means she was 8 years younger than Dev.. Dev was 29 at the break up so she was 21...

Unless the makers change the dates yet again!

Wat a timing! I was about to ask this..according to first promo, dev lost his father at 8..so age difference btwn dev and nikki cant be more than 8.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Lakshmi: I too really liked your post on the main forum! I would like to speak to the similar concerns I have been having with Sona's line of thinking.

There is no denying that she is going down the same dangerous path that led to a lot of problems in S1, but something tells me that this is deliberate on the part of the CVs. If you see the progression since Sona came to IN, each successive, "IN improvement project" that she has taken on has led to her discovering, incrementally, what she missed doing in her relationship with Dev. The Khatri incident led to her admitting that she hadn't trusted Dev or their love, and she admitted to Asha that she may have messed things up beyond repair despite her best intentions, the push for Dev's remarriage led to her embracing and owning her feelings for him, along with a confession to Nisha that she had meddled in affairs that Dev was handling perfectly well before she came along, during their marriage. Both times, she didn't really take what Dev wanted into consideration before jumping into the situation, and both times, she had to admit her fault and embrace her feelings to succeed in the end.

Now again, we see the pattern repeating. Sona is throwing herself into "fix-it" mode without really taking into account what Dev is trying to say to her. He wants to go away with her (maybe to Paris?) and strengthen their bond by sharing their feelings. Like he said to Ishwari, we want to concentrate on the two of their "mann ki baat" before it becomes "sab ki mann ki baat." Sona is happily charging in the opposite direction. It's true that Dev's sisters are important to him and that their absence leaves a void in IN, BUT Dev has been very clear on the fact that his core need for happiness, for life itself is Sona, and now Soha. Sona needs to stop thinking that she is just one among the family for Dev, because it's simply not true. When she left him, he lost the will to live which he only regained when she re-entered his life (he explicitly said this yesterday). The sad truth is that he was never as close to his sisters as he was to Sona; they were never essential to his happiness as Sona is.

This will, I think be the realisation she takes away from this track. If Khatri helped her begin to examine the past, and the remarriage helped her understand who Dev was and is to her, this track will be for her to understand just who she is to Dev. As he said himself, she came into his life to teach him what love was, and then through Suhana, to understand what it meant to fulfill that love. The same way Sona can only see herself as the heroine of a fairytale -- and not just the practical businesswoman and single-mother -- through Dev's eyes, if he can't see himself through her eyes, as a person worthy of love and relationships, all he sees when he looks in the mirror is an isolated ATM, and that is precisely what he became after she left. "Tu mujhme mujhse zyada hai" and all...

Basically, I think the sisters are going to be Sona's next important reality check and that is why we see a familiar pattern repeating.

Also a cool little throwback -- last time, they had to cancel their Paris trip because Ishwari invoked the behen card. This time, will it be the behenein who finally get them there? 😉
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse



@Shaavi: I hope you don't mind my interjecting here. As someone who reads this thread both as a participant and as a moderator, I think your accusations are unfair. You have just quoted one of my posts in which I explicitly call out Sona's decision not to communicate Soha's existence as wrong. How then can you make the claim that nobody on this thread points out Sona's mistakes and flaws? In fact, more often than not, this thread is skewed towards supporting Dev because of the reason for its inception and the number of Dev fans who came here for refuge from a then hostile forum. As long as nobody is breaking the rules, that is fine, but the moment the thread becomes intolerant or hostile to pro-Sona/Boses material, or persists in descending into the bald numerical tabulation of Sona and Dev's errors, we have to take a good look at where we might be going wrong.

As a friend who really appreciates your writing and your insights, I ask you take a moment to question what you are responding to. Is it really a problem with this thread?


Sam, this thread being pro Dev was true maybe 3 -4 threads ago, but since then it is biased and not be what it was before. When Dev said yes to remarriage, it was Dev's fault because he knew he loved her so he had to say no. And Sonakshi was not at fault. It was all because he broke her trust. That is the thing that was highlighted over and over again even in this thread. My question is is it really just Dev's fault. Is he the only one responsible for the relationship. Did Sonakshi not have any bearing on it. So she is responsible for all the goods and Dev for all the bads. Sorry but that is what was posted by several members. Anytime a post is written saying Sonakshi was wrong, lot of responses come back with how she was wronged so anything she does is ok. Two wrongs does not make it right. If Ishwari interfered with Dev and Sonakshi's marriage, the Sonakshi interfered with Ishwari's family. Neither one was correct. Both of them are wrongs from my perspective. Hence I don't see much difference between them. Maybe that is why they are able to get along so well together now.

Sorry, but I don't agree with saying Dev should have followed Sonakshi after knowing that she was left on street. From my perspective there is only one elephant in the room and that is Sonakshi telling Dev about Soha. Why I feel so. It is because of Sonakshi's own actions. First she left home on Dev saying get out. Then in the farmhouse she threw the mangalsutra in the fire and declared that they had no relationship between them. So why is Dev obligated to follow Sonakshi and make sure she or her family is ok. You make sure your family is ok, not strangers. You follow someone to say thanks for the help provided, not when you are hurt badly by that person. And Dev was hurt very badly by Sonakshi. He trusted her with his heart and life and she shattered it. I don't see why Dev should even feel bad for anything that happened at that time. He and she were strangers.

As to Sonakshi telling about Soha, it was very important for her to disclose about it to Dev and include his name in the birth. Because it is both ethically and morally right. Suhana was Dev's flesh and blood, half of Dev. That is why I feel Sonakshi's redemption is much more important than Dev's anything. Anytime where i questioned Sonakshi in this thread or previous ones, it has backfired most of the time with members saying how can i even question her when her intentions are so right. It is only that others don't understand her intentions and things go wrong. And for me these are plausible explanations. And that is what I meant when I used your words as example. That because she can twist the words, it seems like she is genuine.

I am sorry if I sounded harsh, but have lost that connect with Sonakshi in such a way that i feel she is fake. There is no genuineness in her words or actions. It is all narratives. And I really used to love her in the beginning of season 1. Sorry that I was very disappointed with both what was being shown in the series as well as posts with them saying that Dev needs redemption or that his "sorry's" are hollow or meaningless. I think I became biased too and wrote what I wrote. Guess it is our mindset and how we sometimes lose perspective and maybe the bigger picture.

I definitely need to keep off of IF and gain my sanity back. 😊 . sorry once again. Please accept my sincere apology. I did not intend to hurt anyone.


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