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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..BhUvaNa

Thanks for sharing your experience, glad you are in a happy place .kudos to your strength!!

Coming to Dev , i feel this only one side of the coin..I agree with your to an extent on how and where Dev failed as a husband, specially that infertility track..but do you think Sona was perfect in her roles and responsibilities as wife, DIL and mother of Soha?

Leaving inlaws house for weeks ( I understand if she didn't come for 2-3 days) , stopping communicating with them including husband , cuting his calls continuously and returned only to return the cheque..isn't this the root cause for "Get out"?( one shouldnt forget just before this Bijoy said the Same " get out to Dev by throwing him and his patience levels ,sanity in the neighborhood of bose family )




Thanks Bhuvana.

See its typical for us to find faults in the other. My in laws also tried to find many many faults with me when issues occured in the family. And I do really have some of those flaws. Many I don't and are made up by their ego. Who can judge who is best DIL? Are we such experts we know ow a ideal wife, woman, DIL should be in all circumstances? Those who have faced issues between husband family and father mother , and had to choose whom to stand up for...and are critisized no matter whom they choose will know the truth. Family honour is a huge deal after marriage and you are stuck in the middle of your father 's family honour and your husband's. These issues re not at all easy to resolve and take lot of effort.

And none of the things you mentioned justify the get out from husband to wife. No, I am not saying Boses are right. But son in law does not live with you...DIL lives there in the same house. The get outs are not the same.
Again..these get outs should not be from husband to wife under his roof. Very simple.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: melliflous

Thanks for sharing your story! I can relate to it completely as it's similar to mine. In fact that's the very reason I couldn't watch the show few days into Dev and sonakshi's marriage. It just reminded me of my bad days. It took 8 years for me and my husband to accept and understand each other. In 8 years I was on the verge of separation 7 times out of which 3 times in front on my in laws. My husband is extremely attached to his mother and in their presence I always felt like an outsider. His mother always made it a point to show me that I will never be his priority. We spent so many years defending our parents ... fighting for our families. Anyways, my story would be too long to talk about here. Not easy to talk again about all the sensitive issues and all the bitter experiences. But what I want to really share is time is the best remedy. People change , circumstances changes . We cannot judge for everyone as everyone's situation, personality and struggles are different. Today ,after 10 years, I can proudly say that I ve found my best friend in my husband who understands me, respects me and loves me. It was a long journey to get where we are but we did get here. We know each other's parents shortcomings as well as our own parents shortcomings. Our pact is that it will never get in a way of our relation. In fact even our 2 (3 yrs and 7yrs) sons can't get in between our relation. As you mentioned communication is a key to healthy relationship. We cannot please everyone at all the times. But striking a balance is important.
Coming to krpk... it's very realistic in its approach. Or should I say was very realistic! I felt, Dev and sonas separation was too forced. It didn't look like them at all. Dev would always follow sonakshi after a fight and sonakshi was never impulsive in her decisions , she believed in talking , sorting out things. They did not have any chance to speak to each other calmly , or even in sober state(Dev was drunk). Their separation was Fault from both sides. So the separation was for drama sake and so is the post leap. I look at the post leap as a story now which was left incomplete... the story of their incomplete love.


Thanks for Sharing this...I completely understand and am touched by the reality you faced. Marriage is an effort. If only men also were advised to make effort and compromise like girls are always told, things would be so different.
I am very glad you both emerged stronger than your circumstances. We always have to remember that when we get old its only our spouse with us and giving them that respect from day one is very important. You are right, its the future that matters.
Also agree completely on how the separation was handled..that was not the Dev and Sona we are watching from beginning. They can be angry...and explode..but not separate..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Malikakas.
You lost me here:

But I'd argue that their trigger for the separation was ignited even before that. After the accidental slap incident Sona cut off ties with Dev. She went to live with her parents and repeatedly cut off the phone. He went to apologize to the Boses but was thrown out. Only to find Sona, in his mind, separating the families by returning the cheque to Ishwari. She wasn't trying to behave as a unit. Then her and Ishwari get into an argument and she grabs his collar. I think for me what Dev said made sense in that moment. I can understand how someone could be so exasperated in that moment that they say what they did. I understand Sona's perspective a little less because she didn't confer with Dev after telling him that they needed to deal with everything together. That's probably my biggest issue with Sona is that she doesn't practice what she preaches.

My comment :
There is a huge difference between a couple behaving like a unit in their finances...versus the two families behaving like a unit. When there are money matters involved between two families, and thats where most issues creep up, the honour of each individual family comes into the picture. Sona cannot think of the matter of monetary transaction between Dev and Saurabh as a family unit thing. IT cannot because both families are not on same platform. And for accepting that money her family was insulted badly. So she is not returning the money to Dev...Boses are returning the money to Dixits . Thats why she gives the cheque to Ishwari because the allegations had come from Ishwari and Mami.

Its very big mistake to think that two families start behaving like one financial unit because the kids are married. The couple needs to be a unit with thier finances...but the respective children have a duty to thier own family honour first and then thier in laws honour.

Let me tell you an example. Me and my husband earn..we are a family unit. But when my husband offered to put in money for my brothers MS, I rejected the idea. Not because it was a bad idea. But because that takes matters to a family level and throws it out of our couple court. That gives a opening to my in laws to bad mouth my parents. To avoid all that, I simply rejected the idea . Luckily my husband did talk to me and not go behind me talking to my brother. It can feel very great to offer money..but in relationships long term issues have to be considered.

Like I keep saying many of these intricacies are known only when we go through them, through experience and its easy to make judgements without it.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: bluejalpari17


Thanks Bhuvana.

See its typical for us to find faults in the other. My in laws also tried to find many many faults with me when issues occured in the family. And I do really have some of those flaws. Many I don't and are made up by their ego. Who can judge who is best DIL? Are we such experts we know ow a ideal wife, woman, DIL should be in all circumstances? Those who have faced issues between husband family and father mother , and had to choose whom to stand up for...and are critisized no matter whom they choose will know the truth. Family honour is a huge deal after marriage and you are stuck in the middle of your father 's family honour and your husband's. These issues re not at all easy to resolve and take lot of effort.

And none of the things you mentioned justify the get out from husband to wife. No, I am not saying Boses are right. But son in law does not live with you...DIL lives there in the same house. The get outs are not the same.
Again..these get outs should not be from husband to wife under his roof. Very simple.



Thanks for the response.
I am glad we are typical that way to find faults with others as long as they are our loved ones and we find faults in each other to get mutual help that can make us better humans.
I am not asking any expert opinion or want to judge, just asked your take on where sona failed ? Feel free if don't want to..

Being myself a married woman I understand the depth of Get out from a husband. But we have agree to disagree here , as much as I am against husband saying get out I am equally against wife leaving the house and not bothering to communicate and hoping everything will be fine when she returns, for me that lack of communication gave space and boost to outsiders like GKB and Vicky..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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beautiful and heart warmimg. I have similar experience and not once husband asked me to get out. I took all abuses from inlaws, stood my ground when needed.. but the day they created major drama of.. me or them.. My hisband put his foot down! If sonakshi ever had Dev do that once, even after he said.. get out. she wiuld have never left! swallowing all pride she showed up again to talk to Dev.. foumd him drunk, prenup in front of her. From experience, she knew Dev can do anything when enraged.. his bitter words hurt. still, she showed up at the same door with soha.. same fate.. you are noone.. leave and never come back!

despite all that.. sonakshi knows a mother's responsibility.. give all happiness and fair shot at everythjng to her child. hence she never hid Dev from soha!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Bhuvana:
Thanks for the response.
I am glad we are typical that way to find faults with others as long as they are our loved ones and we find faults in each other to get mutual help that can make us better humans.
I am not asking any expert opinion or want to judge, just asked your take on where sona failed ? Feel free if don't want to..

Being myself a married woman I understand the depth of Get out from a husband. But we have agree to disagree here , as much as I am against husband saying get out I am equally against wife leaving the house and not bothering to communicate and hoping everything will be fine.

My comments:

Thanks for your perspective. Bhuvana thats a big question. Where did Sona fail and how she got here. In my opinion the first failure is expecting a normal marriage with a family like Dixits. I was also the same typical girl like Sona who thought that if there is love and the guy is good hearted, all will be well. Its not so.
A man's family and circumstances matter a lot , a lot, even if they are physically apart or even in another country. And knowing what she saw in the family, and knowing he brokeup with her because of his mother , she still trusted that all will be fine after marriage. We all keep thinking that. That the guy will change, I will change some and we will be good.
The reality is change is not so easy. Dev kept leaning on his mother even after marraige.

The family we get married into has a huge bearing in our life..so that was one big thing she took easy. If I could have advised her, I would tell her not to marry into such a family. :) . Her second big issue was her infertility kind of family and not having kids is not going to work out. Though Dev did not say it with his mouth, it was a factor in separation .

Third, I feel her family should have left her alone for a bit with the Dixits an should have avoided financial transactions.

Thats my two cents.




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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: vibg

beautiful and heart warmimg. I have similar experience and not once husband asked me to get out. I took all abuses from inlaws, stood my ground when needed.. but the day they created major drama of.. me or them.. My hisband put his foot down! If sonakshi ever had Dev do that once, even after he said.. get out. she wiuld have never left! swallowing all pride she showed up again to talk to Dev.. foumd him drunk, prenup in front of her. From experience, she knew Dev can do anything when enraged.. his bitter words hurt. still, she showed up at the same door with soha.. same fate.. you are noone.. leave and never come back!

despite all that.. sonakshi knows a mother's responsibility.. give all happiness and fair shot at everythjng to her child. hence she never hid Dev from soha!


Thanks Vibg...good to have a life partner who can put his foot down. Very imp.Glad for you.

agree 100%. My heart goes out to the single mom who came back after being thrown out by her husband , but was not accepted.All he had to say was everyone stop talking, go to your rooms, no one leaves the house and we meet at dinner.
Its called taking control and being the man of the house..but Dev never learnt that.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Malikakas,
Sorry, I do not agree with your judgements. In constantly bringing Ishwari, your taking away from couple duties in Dev and Sonakshi. Its not a DIL's job to heal the insecurities of her MIL while her own parents are under attack by the same MIL. If it was an investment there should be no reason to raise such hue and cry from Dixits over it..to the extent of calling Bijoy chor by Mamiji..and then her father gets slapped by her husband at the same sitting. Definitely she will and should think as daughter of Bose family first in that scenario.
A girl who cannot standup for her parents while they are insulted at her in laws house...such a girl cannot uplift her in laws home also. I know this firsthand because I went through similar harrowing experience sans the slap. I know how many sleepless nights it caused and how confused I was between both families.And worse I know how that disrupts your otherwise normal marital life.
As I have too many differences from your analysis..and I feel that your dissection is very theoritical rather than personal or practical experience..
So , I will agree to disagree and will not debate with you anymore.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: bluejalpari17

@Bhuvana:

Thanks for the response.
I am glad we are typical that way to find faults with others as long as they are our loved ones and we find faults in each other to get mutual help that can make us better humans.
I am not asking any expert opinion or want to judge, just asked your take on where sona failed ? Feel free if don't want to..

Being myself a married woman I understand the depth of Get out from a husband. But we have agree to disagree here , as much as I am against husband saying get out I am equally against wife leaving the house and not bothering to communicate and hoping everything will be fine.

My comments:

Thanks for your perspective. Bhuvana thats a big question. Where did Sona fail and how she got here. In my opinion the first failure is expecting a normal marriage with a family like Dixits. I was also the same typical girl like Sona who thought that if there is love and the guy is good hearted, all will be well. Its not so.
A man's family and circumstances matter a lot , a lot, even if they are physically apart or even in another country. And knowing what she saw in the family, and knowing he brokeup with her because of his mother , she still trusted that all will be fine after marriage. We all keep thinking that. That the guy will change, I will change some and we will be good.
The reality is change is not so easy. Dev kept leaning on his mother even after marraige.

The family we get married into has a huge bearing in our life..so that was one big thing she took easy. If I could have advised her, I would tell her not to marry into such a family. :) . Her second big issue was her infertility kind of family and not having kids is not going to work out. Though Dev did not say it with his mouth, it was a factor in separation .

Third, I feel her family should have left her alone for a bit with the Dixits an should have avoided financial transactions.

Thats my two cents.






yes , even after seeing closely dixits for good 5-6 months , and the guy she is love with himself clears he is a difficult man to deal with and it 's not going to be easy, still hoping everything will be normal is beyond me. here she agreed for more than a usual commitment..

@bold, that's another thing that baffles me , how on earth a girl can forget that her boyfriend's mother swallowed hand full of sleeping pills and almost committed a suicide for which her boyfriend broke with her abruptly, but sona never pondered or worked in that way instead gave her commitment and started mission change which takes lot of time like you said and dev gets hardly 5 months...

I agree with you on infertility and finance issues.. anyways both the parties overlooked and never worked on few key factors that are needed for a successful relationship than just love...

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I saw epi288 once more to understand what transpired that day...dev said get out n maami, neha and vikky reiterated the get out ...still sona didnt leave she checked again with Dev but he repeated just go from here...i think in that situation Sona leaving from there is justified totally...
our society is totally ok with seeing a lachhaar woman who stands there crying at the mercy of in laws and for their acceptance but cant stand to see a woman picking up her respect and rising like a phoenix against the odds...

i am not married but living in a joint family and seeing marriage goals around me, i can strongly say that working on a marriage is not just a lady's prerogative, the man in the relationship too is an equal participant. in our country, we always expect the woman to bear with everything just to make things work but if making things work is going torment her emotionally and/or physically then such a relationship is not worth it cos no relationship is worth it if you in that relationship is sidelined...making sacrifices and compromises is one thing but when that becomes a routine and taken for granted then that has to be stopped irrespective of the gender in the relationship.

Knock on wood, all the ladies in my house are no weaklings and neither are the men.the man and the woman in the relationship are equal and we all know to respect each other as individuals and thanks to that we express our likes and dislikes openly and is reciprocated in the right manner. A household should be about harmonious co-existence,

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